whatever man. meanwhile Seattle will go its twelve thousandth consecutive day without a high below 20F, and the east coast will complain about their sub-30" winter at sea level. phil will probably throw one example of a climo-ish winter for us that basically drove him to the brink of suicide to "prove a point". lol

ORD grid for today...nice to see the 1st "Heavy Snow" wording...

Phil, I've lived in the PNW for 58 years, 48 of them in Anacortes or Bellingham. I know a hell of a lot more about PNW weather than you ever will. So stop with you're ignorance. PV displacements happen on average about every other year, and most of the time they go elsewhere. So by your logic snow in the PNW lowlands should be exceptionally rare. Yet snow happens most years, sometimes more than once. Obviously Ninas help. Top tier events of course are much more rare, and that is probably what you are referring to. And by the way I'm not at a high altitude. My altitude is 1100 feet. And we average 95 inches of snow per year. What prevents more snow from falling West of the Cascades is both the relatively warm ocean temps and the Cascades and the Rockies that blocks the normal cold air coming down from Canada several times every year. My snow isn't because of altitude.

This is gonna be another one of those winters again where the east coast gets five sub-20°F cold snaps then whines about ranking 1" below average in snowfall while the PNW significantly underperforms its 4" expectation isn't it?

Not sure what you mean by that...are you talking locally in your backyard? This is about as good of a Flip to Winter you'll see in this "warm era"...enjoy it and hopefully you get some snow for your kiddos. https://wgntv.com/weather/weather-blog/major-pattern-flip-to-full-blown-wintry-chill-ahead-by-the-end-of-the-month/