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This has its limits. I’ve skied in single digit air temps and in -15°F windchills before. I find in those conditions even with very heavy winter clothes I’m still going inside to warm up every other run. Having bad circulation in my hands doesn’t help either, handwarmers help but they only get you so far. Maybe if you live in @Make -PNA Great Again’s next of the woods you can acclimate to it though. Don’t get me wrong, I’d take it over skiing in 33°F rain, which I’ve done before when I raced in high school (it’s a special kind of misery).

Everyone’s talking about how epic smoke is, but no one is talking about keeping yellow jacket nests in their backyard. Come on guys, that’s the other best part about summer!

Sorry to get all Tim on here but I tend to agree. Today is perfect here in Portland area, 70s and mostly sunny, and the next several days will be too. Thunderstorms are awesome too and yesterday morning was a fun drive to work… but clammy and gray just doesn’t belong in the middle of summer, IMO. We put up with our crappy winters for a reason.

Going to PITTSBURGH in late August for a business trip. Let’s hope the smoke is long gone by then. My absence will give you guys either: A) an August 2015 windstorm repeat B) the biggest thunderstorm outbreak of the century so far C) an August version of June 2021

Probably more normal for December 16th than July 16th these days. To get something off my chest, last winter just killed any excitement I have for winter as a season. I love going up to the mountains and skiing and snowshoeing but if next winter is gonna be like last winter where we can’t even get cold and snowy 6000 feet up, then I’m honestly dreading it. I think I might be turning into Jim, lol.

Honestly surprised how mild this July has been. I’m sure we’ll end up paying for it eventually. Either in August/September or in fall and winter.

Just 65 at PDX at 4pm. Pretty surreal for July 16th in a modern summer.

These super Niño winters basically have a window from about December 15 - January 15 to deliver. I wouldn’t be surprised if things line up right briefly in that timeframe and we see at least something. That said, a wall-to-wall blowtorch wouldn’t surprise me either. Something has to give in December, though, right? The last three were all top 5 warmest on record at PDX. Even like, a +1 December with a normal start to ski season would be a solid win at this point.

Csb is what the westside climate is (mild summer, mild winter, Mediterranean precip pattern). Csa is classic Mediterranean, same thing but warmest month averages warmer than 22C - Southern Oregon valley floors are Csa, PDX is actually surprisingly close to hitting Csa now too. Joseph's climate is more like Montana than it is like even central Oregon. It's so far east and so cut off from maritime influence that its precipitation peak is actually April-June because of the thunderstorm season, not November-January like it is in most of Oregon. And yeah, winters are cold. Think basically 4-5 months a year where snow is the default precip type, single digit lows happen pretty regularly even in "dud" winters.

1925-26 was also a real dumpster fire of a winter, exactly 100 years before this dumpster fire. Downtown Portland had zero snow, a total of four freezes, and the low of 29 on 11/23 was the coldest it got the entire season. To be honest, I have to wonder if most people back then saw winters like that as a blessing, not a curse.

Eureka, CA having a July record high of 77 and a February record high of 85 is kind of hilarious. Quite a few spots on the coast down there are like this, even up to Cape Blanco, where November and May have the same average temperature and January's record high is warmer than August's (out of a fairly short and old POR).

My brother lives in the city in San Francisco, apparently yesterday was his first 70+ high in a whole month. Average high so far this July is 64 for downtown SF. He's not a fan and tells me to just not bother visiting SF in July or August, lol

Just ran some numbers. Here’s a fun fact! A 92°F day with a 59°F dewpoint in the Willamette Valley has the same Wet Bulb Globe Temp as a 105°F day with a 35°F dewpoint on the eastside. Sorry eastsiders, our heat scores higher on the Phil index.

If we don’t get some 100s soon I’m gonna have to book a vacation in PASCO or REDDING so I can finally get out and play some pickleball. Smh

Not out in the ocean, and this is the problem with "peak jet climo". The vast majority of the time, November is squarely a fall month here. Even if it's just as rainy and cloudy as winter is (and really, because of it). There's just way too much latent heat off to our west, the average first freeze at PDX and SEA isn't even until fairly late in the month. Now if you can get continental air like November 2010, 1985, etc you can override that giant heat sink normally immediately upwind from us and really enjoy the benefits of the low sun angles that time of year. The real October crash if anything is in the intermountain West and Great Basin, where the combination of inversion season starting and the seasonal collapse of the 4CH often just crash the weather straight from summer to winter within a couple weeks. The more cut off you are from oceanic air, the more wintry November is in the West.