There was 3 pieces of energy with the late October storm, first was hurricane Norma, then a wave swung out of the SW and then finally a storm came into the pacific northwest and rotated through. The final piece is what could deliver a nice snow if there is cold air available. 12z Euro today I think is on the right path.
Yeah snowiest and coldest since 1951-1952.
Last year all the seasonal models and experts had us at like 70% of normal precip do to the 3rd year La Nina. But winter ended up acting like an El Nino instead.
This year they all had us at 120% or above because of the El Nino so of course it acts like a La Nina.
We have never had an above average winter with a Nov and Dec this bad before, so it looks like they have already busted on their forecast for this season.