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It will be time to flip the calendar  over to November. 

November is the last of the “Fall” months and here in Grand Rapids, MI  it can at times be close to a winter month. Here in Grand Rapids the average H/L starts out at 53.6/37.8 and falls to 41.0/28.6 by the 30th. The warmest mean for November is 47.6 in 1931 and the coldest mean is 31.0 in 1951. The record high for the month is 81 on November 1st, 1950, and just 25 days later the low fell all the way down to -10° November 1950 for the record low. November 1950 had a spread of 90° that is the biggest temperature spread of any month at Grand Rapids. On average 7.4” of snow falls in November. The most snow fall is the 31.0” that fell in November 2014. There was no snow fall in 1906 and 1907 for the least amount of snow fall. The average rain/melted snow fall is 2.48” the most for the month is 7.90” fell the least was just 0.06” in 1904. Last year November was a wild month.  The mean for November was 40.9° that was a departure of +0.9. There was 2.33” of rain/melted snow. But the month had a record daily high set on the 10th of 75. The low for the month was 18 set on the 19th, 20th, and 22nd. For the month there was 28.0” of snow fall, that is the 2nd most for any November. Daily record snow falls were recorded on the 19th (8.7”) and the 17th (7.6”) and a 2nd place total of 7.0” on the 17th. Now we can sit back and see how November 2023 will plays out. ‘

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4 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Fooey! You beat me to it!

Back when I frequented this forum more, these threads would always appear a week before the month started. You guys need to step your games up 

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35 minutes ago, IMoveALot_Weather said:

Back when I frequented this forum more, these threads would always appear a week before the month started. You guys need to step your games up 

We're a bunch of slackers now without your supervision!

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25 minutes ago, Tom said:

#SiberianExpress

There's another one in Mid-November that is being picked up by the models in the long-range

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Winds are raging outside tonight. 2 hours ago it was nearly calm when the kids were candy hunting.

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'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - __.__"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 12 degrees on 11/29

Measurable snows: TBA

Thunders: 40
1/3, 1/12, 3/1, 3/24, 3/31, 4/1, 4/5, 4/14, 4/21, 4/22
4/28, 4/30, 5/7, 5/9, 5/13, 5/16, 5/30, 5/31, 6/3, 6/19
6/26, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/9, 7/13, 7/15, 7/17, 7/18, 7/21
7/24, 7/27, 7/28, 8/6, 8/7, 8/13, 8/14, 8/25, 9/6, 9/28,

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Hibbing,MN with back to back  low temp records on the OCT 31st and NOV 1st 2023

Oct 31st low 7F -- old record 10F in 1996

Nov 1st low (thus far as of 2:27am) = 4F - old record 8F in 1984

Dewpoint is currently -1F so lower temp is possible.

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21 minutes ago, Clinton said:

Lots of record lows are going to be set in eastern Kansas and western Missouri, these 5:30 temps will easily drop a few more degrees. Currently 18 at my place.

 

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That's impressive. 14 F in Clarinda,iA and 19 at  KMCI--- pretty sure KMCI is a record.image.thumb.png.68197b66f56f1c076543af4ce6f6066f.png

 

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Welcome to November.  For October the mean at Grand Rapids was 52.6° that is a departure of -1.1. The month started off on the warm side with 4 days in a row of highs in the 80’s reaching 86 on the 3rd. The low for the month was 28 on the 31st it was a wet month with 5.51” of rain/melted snow.  That is a departure of +1.49”  

The official H/L yesterday at Grand Rapids was 39/28 there was 0.05” of melted snow fall and a reported 0.1” of snow fall. The highest wind was 25MPH out of the S. There was 8% of possible sunshine. For today the average H/L is 54/37 the record high of 81 was set in 1950 that is the record high for November and is the latest 80 day in the year. The record low of 21 was set in 1976 The record rain fall of 1.24” fell in 1982 the record snow fall of 4.0” fell in 1912. Last year the H/L was 65/40..

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At Muskegon yesterday a new record snow fall amount of 8.8” it was also the most snow fall for any October at Muskegon. Here in Grand Rapids the reported amount of snow fall was 0.1” here in MBY I have just under a half inch of snow on the ground. I also have a temperature of 22 at the current time. The official reading at GRR is 25.

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KCI set a record low this morning. Zonal flow will warm my area into the 60s this weekend. 

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Kansas City International Airport has already registered a morning low temperature of 18° F, breaking the previous record low for today of 20° F from 1991.
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1991 was (KMCI breaking record this AM) a ball buster cold spell. Helped with the Halloween Super Snow---Both DSM and MSP had their earliest ever below 0 F temps ever recorded. Impressive that records are being broke nowdays with no snow on the ground.

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3 hours ago, Clinton said:

Lots of record lows are going to be set in eastern Kansas and western Missouri, these 5:30 temps will easily drop a few more degrees. Currently 18 at my place.

 

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Officially 20 degrees this morning at the airport about a couple of miles from my house.  But there were lots of readings in the teens just outside the city.  The official low at KCI Airport I believe was 18, which would e a new record.  Old record was 20 degrees.

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Fun taste of winter on Halloween.  Trace of snow fell at my house.   Looks just below to average to start November.   Will have to wait a bit for our first real snow at my place if the medium to long range forecast holds.   

 

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Officially got my first freeze this morning, though barely at 32 for the low.

We were supposed to be in the upper 20's. Tonight looks like another equally cold night. Maybe it'll be a degree or two cooler tonight if there is no wind activity.

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - __.__"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 12 degrees on 11/29

Measurable snows: TBA

Thunders: 40
1/3, 1/12, 3/1, 3/24, 3/31, 4/1, 4/5, 4/14, 4/21, 4/22
4/28, 4/30, 5/7, 5/9, 5/13, 5/16, 5/30, 5/31, 6/3, 6/19
6/26, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/9, 7/13, 7/15, 7/17, 7/18, 7/21
7/24, 7/27, 7/28, 8/6, 8/7, 8/13, 8/14, 8/25, 9/6, 9/28,

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The models were teasing a good storm around here after the first week of November, but now the trend is toward a pretty dry, progressive pattern through mid month.  Locations east of Iowa have a better chance of decent rain.

season snowfall: 0.0"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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The graphic says yesterday but their FB page just posted this right before I did on here.. 🫠

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - __.__"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 12 degrees on 11/29

Measurable snows: TBA

Thunders: 40
1/3, 1/12, 3/1, 3/24, 3/31, 4/1, 4/5, 4/14, 4/21, 4/22
4/28, 4/30, 5/7, 5/9, 5/13, 5/16, 5/30, 5/31, 6/3, 6/19
6/26, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/9, 7/13, 7/15, 7/17, 7/18, 7/21
7/24, 7/27, 7/28, 8/6, 8/7, 8/13, 8/14, 8/25, 9/6, 9/28,

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My lows the last 3 mornings have been 31, 26, and 23. Tulsa airport was also 23 this morning which broke the record for the date. My garden is toast obviously, which is a shame since we have 70s returning in a few days. It was a fun first taste of winter though. 

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Today was our first widespread freeze for all locations across Chester County. This ends the growing season at 207 days which is 9 days longer than our average season. Here in East Nantmeal we have reached a low so far of 28.7 this morning - we did not see readings that cold last year until the 28.2 on November 18th. Below normal temps both today and tomorrow before a nice warming trend begins over the weekend that brings us to above normal temps by mid-week before colder weather again toward next weekend. Next rain chances not till Monday night.
Records for today: High 82 (1982) / Low 20 (1923) / Rain 1.72" (2018)
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Looks like the first 2 weeks of November will be on the warm side and dry for most, zonal flow looks to dominate for the time being.  The EPO and AO are going to spend a little time in the neutral to positive range.

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However one of the most encouraging signs this fall is where the MJO is looking to play ball.  Last year the MJO would travel from the warm phases into a cold phase and then back to neutral and kept making the same circle over and over again.  Look what's happening this year, the MJO is cycling through phases that will be cold throughout most of the winter and by 10th the MJO will head towards phase 7 and 8.  The LRC has shown us that the blocking will be there at times this winter and I look forward to more exciting weather for the 2nd half of the month.

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The official H/L yesterday was 40/24 there was a trace of snow fall and a reported trace of snow on the ground at GRR. The highest wind speed was 20 MPH out of the S. There was 28% of possible sunshine. For today the average H/L is 53/37 the record high of 77 was set in 1938 and the record low of 18 was set in 1951. The most rain fall on 2.69” fell in 2003. The most snow fall of 1.5” fell in 1991. Last year the H/L was a warm 67/38.

The low of 24 yesterday was of course a hard freeze and it was the earliest low below 25 since 1983. Last year it did not happen until November 18th the average date is November 11th

Yesterday in the October summery I made a typo mistake The October mean was  52.6° that is a departure of +1.1 I had the departure of -1.1.

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26 minutes ago, Clinton said:

Looks like the first 2 weeks of November will be on the warm side and dry for most, zonal flow looks to dominate for the time being.  The EPO and AO are going to spend a little time in the neutral to positive range.

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However one of the most encouraging signs this fall is where the MJO is looking to play ball.  Last year the MJO would travel from the warm phases into a cold phase and then back to neutral and kept making the same circle over and over again.  Look what's happening this year, the MJO is cycling through phases that will be cold throughout most of the winter and by 10th the MJO will head towards phase 7 and 8.  The LRC has shown us that the blocking will be there at times this winter and I look forward to more exciting weather for the 2nd half of the month.

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Great stuff Clinton, I haven't been paying much attn to the MJO this year as I'm more focused on the anchor troughs/ridges setting up this Autumn.  I'm concerned out here for the dominant SW ridge but that bodes well for the cold out East of here.  I hopeful the EPO/WPO play ball that'll allow storms to cut underneath the NW NAMER ridge into my area and "bowl" their way east into TX/OK come late NOV into DEC.

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It's a sad day in the valley as the D Backs fell apart at the World Series....hats off to the Texans, they showed the world "Don't mess with Texas!"  Hahah...in all seriousness, it was a nice ride and as the Arizona has alot to look forward to.  @Andie, you still up from last nights festivities?  J/K!  I'm sure Dallas is gonna a blast this weekend.

As for the weather,  these cool nights have been delightful sleeping with the windows open and NO A/C running., however, it's expected to warm back up again into the Upper 80's as the SW ridge comes a live yet again through the middle part of next week.  Bonus summer weather!

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10 minutes ago, Tom said:

It's a sad day in the valley as the D Backs fell apart at the World Series....hats off to the Texans,

I know how you fell. I work for a Detroit Tigers farm team and while it has been too long since the Tigers have been in the post season it is still fun to see so many of the player's who played on our team make the post season. 

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Quick note, last nights JMA Week 3-4 are flashing a similar 500mb pattern that evolved during the 1st half of OCT and looks like @Black Hole maps in the Winter thread.  Could be a sign of LRC cycle #2...here we go...

 

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Temp/Precip...encouraging sings of the what @Clinton showed in terms of the MJO signaling a wetter pattern for SoCal/4 corners region and most of the Sub Forum.

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Hey whats this!? We got to 24 this morning. Not sure what the daily record is, I'll look it up.

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - __.__"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 12 degrees on 11/29

Measurable snows: TBA

Thunders: 40
1/3, 1/12, 3/1, 3/24, 3/31, 4/1, 4/5, 4/14, 4/21, 4/22
4/28, 4/30, 5/7, 5/9, 5/13, 5/16, 5/30, 5/31, 6/3, 6/19
6/26, 7/2, 7/5, 7/6, 7/9, 7/13, 7/15, 7/17, 7/18, 7/21
7/24, 7/27, 7/28, 8/6, 8/7, 8/13, 8/14, 8/25, 9/6, 9/28,

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3 hours ago, Clinton said:

Looks like the first 2 weeks of November will be on the warm side and dry for most, zonal flow looks to dominate for the time being.  The EPO and AO are going to spend a little time in the neutral to positive range.

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However one of the most encouraging signs this fall is where the MJO is looking to play ball.  Last year the MJO would travel from the warm phases into a cold phase and then back to neutral and kept making the same circle over and over again.  Look what's happening this year, the MJO is cycling through phases that will be cold throughout most of the winter and by 10th the MJO will head towards phase 7 and 8.  The LRC has shown us that the blocking will be there at times this winter and I look forward to more exciting weather for the 2nd half of the month.

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The EPS day 5-15 composite I posted in the winter thread looks a lot like the phase 7 map for Nov you posted. Good sign I'd say. 

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4 hours ago, Tom said:

Quick note, last nights JMA Week 3-4 are flashing a similar 500mb pattern that evolved during the 1st half of OCT and looks like @Black Hole maps in the Winter thread.  Could be a sign of LRC cycle #2...here we go...

 

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Temp/Precip...encouraging sings of the what @Clinton showed in terms of the MJO signaling a wetter pattern for SoCal/4 corners region and most of the Sub Forum.

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Certainly could be signs of cycle 2.  El Ninos on average have ahorter cycle lengths than La ninas.

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Just bad luck for my area in terms of the drought conditions. This is one of the longest stretches with being in the worst category from what I can remember. Obviously you don't bust a drought in the winter; just hoping we can stay at average or just above for the winter months otherwise next spring will be in a bad bad situation around here. 

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5 hours ago, gabel23 said:

Just bad luck for my area in terms of the drought conditions. This is one of the longest stretches with being in the worst category from what I can remember. Obviously you don't bust a drought in the winter; just hoping we can stay at average or just above for the winter months otherwise next spring will be in a bad bad situation around here. 

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That’s too bad. Fairly small area that has hung on for a long time. My county is officially out of any drought conditions. That is a massive change from the last couple of years. 

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The official H/L yesterday at Grand Rapids was 52/36. There was no rain or snow. The highest wind gust was 29 MPH out of the S. The sun was out 47% of the possible time. For today the average H/L is 53/37 the record high of 76 was set in 1938/ and 2015 the record low of 17 was set in 1951. The record rain fall of 2.17” was in 1935. The record snow fall of 10.4” was in 1991 the record snow on the ground was 6” in 1996. Last year it was a warm 71-48.

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Happy Friday and what a wonderful day of weather that Mother Nature is "teeing" up...I'm sure there will be many golfers on the courses today!  Not much change out here in the wx dept until we get into next week but I'll have no complaints as temps will run about 5-10F AN for the year.  Might touch 90F a couple times through early next week.

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16 hours ago, tStacsh said:

Boring start to November.  See ya'll in a week or so for some preseason hype.  

Might as well add December to the list also because (at least in my neck of the woods) its looking boring as well and mild. The whole month looks snowless w/ AN temps. January is looking by far much better though. Fingers crossed on that one. Also, SMI in November, snows are useless, (average highs still mild and average snow is relatively low), so I am not really looking for anything this month.

Welcome to a Nino winter.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area

Oct 2023: 0.2"

Nov 2023:1.7"

Dec 2023:

Jan 2024:

Feb 2024:

Mar 2024:

April 2024:

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24 minutes ago, Niko said:

Might as well add December to the list also because (at least in my neck of the woods) its looking boring as well and mild. The whole month looks snowless w/ AN temps. January is looking by far much better though. Fingers crossed on that one. Also, SMI in November, snows are useless, (average highs still mild and average snow is relatively low), so I am not really looking for anything this month.

Welcome to a Nino winter.

While the trend with El NIno is AN and less snowy, storms could still pop in December.  I don't expect much of anything in November to be honest.  And last year I got 28" in November so I'd rather have that come in December.   We had 20+ days in a row last Dec/Jan with no snow and still made it a top 3 snowiest winter on record.  (Though they record snow differently than they did way back in the day so who knows).  

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Another frosty start across most of the County this morning. Temperatures look to remain slightly below normal over the weekend and into the start of the new work week. However we should stay above freezing for night time lows for the upcoming week. Colder air looks likely to return again by the middle of the month.
Records for today: High 80 (2003) / Low 17 (1951) / Rain 1.24" (1910) and Snow 1.0" (1910) part of the 2nd largest early season snowstorm in Chester County history with another 5.6" falling on the 4th for a 6.6" total. The greatest early season snowfall in the county occurred just 12 years ago with the 9.0" of snow that fell on October 29, 2011.
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Average Chester County PA Snow at elevations over 660 FT ASL (1983-Present) = 35.9" Snow totals by season: 2022/23 (2.7") /2021/22 (20.5")  2020/21 snow  (52.2") /  2019/20 snow (5.8" )/ 2018/19 snow (35.1" )/ 2017/18 snow (58.5") / 2016/17 snow (24.0")/ 2015/16 snow (40.8")/ 2014/15 snow = (55.3") /2013/14 snow (80.0").

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As I kinda implied a couple of days ago, I'll be moving BACK to Minnesota next month! This time it'll probably be permanent. I'm excited to get back to this subforum!

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>1" snowfalls at KALX in 2023-24:

 

Total 2023-24 snowfall at KALX:                                            Coldest Minimum:

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2 hours ago, IMoveALot_Weather said:

As I kinda implied a couple of days ago, I'll be moving BACK to Minnesota next month! This time it'll probably be permanent. I'm excited to get back to this subforum!

MSP area?

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MSP area?

Alexandria.

I will probably move around the state a couple more times. My job is with the state, though, so I will likely remain in MN.

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>1" snowfalls at KALX in 2023-24:

 

Total 2023-24 snowfall at KALX:                                            Coldest Minimum:

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The official H/L yesterday at Grand Rapids was 57/42 there was 0.01” of rain fall there was no snowfall. It was a windy day with the highest gust of 36 MPH out of the W. There was 53% of possible sunshine. For today the average H/L is 52/36 the record high of 75 was set in 2015. In 2015 we were in the middle of 4 days in a row of highs in the 70’s and then there was one day with a high of 67. 201516 was a very strong El Nino winter. The record low of 15 was set in 1951. 1951 also had the record snowfall for this date of 5.8” The most snow on the ground was 7”in 1991 and 1966. The record rain fall of 1.50” fell in 1959. Last year the H/L was 68/57 and there was 0.11” of rain fall.

I know a lot of people do not like the time change but none the less tonight is the night we change the time to what I like to call “Winter Time” so don’t forget to change clocks that do not change by themselves one hour back to Winter Time.

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