November 2023 Observations and Discussion

[Minny_Weather]

The lakes in West Central MN aren't gonna be frozen until January at this rate

[james1976]

Low 60s next week and then it drops back off to low 40s.

[jaster220]

16 hours ago, jaster220 said:

Interesting map today/this evening. Just had a couple nice rumbles of thunder. This late morning featured some pretty intense rainfall with temps in the 30's. Could certainly have been a quick hitting front-end thumper during winter. Some bitter cold air mass just to the NE of Michigan was feeding into the system with high temps having quite a spread today from lower 50's along OH state line to mid 30's a couple of counties north of here. Now I see a pretty large snow shield a bit north in ONT. Won't take long before the real deal is setting it's sights on The Mitt. 

There was a swath of 1" to nearly 2" qpf recorded at numerous sites a couple counties north of Detroit, such as here from Port Huron. Also, KFNT and Saginaw both recorded a "T" of snowfall so it must have been right near freezing when it started. Most certainly was a "sneaky" system to hit that hard and didn't get much headlines in advance. Those can be #funtimes when they happen in winter. 

[jaster220]

3 hours ago, Niko said:

So looking forward to it. 

Autumn warmth without all the nuisance bugs is a wonderful phenomenon. And like you said, premature cold snaps do nothing here in SEMI anyways, so it's much better to save the cold for when it counts. 

[Andie]

Much of Texas is covered with a chilly rain.  More to come but trim off by midnight.  

55*, light breeze, heavy cloud cover.  
No rain expect after this until next weekend.  

[hawkstwelve]

It's obviously still a ways out but the EPS is showing some possibilities of a white Thanksgiving. 

[sumweatherdude]

As with the cold push in late October, there's a massive, sprawling high pressure over the SE that seems to be impeding the eastward movement of cold air that may come down around Thanksgiving.  Is that just a natural consequence of the type of patterns that bring down these cold fronts?  Or is it a distinct feature we just happen to be seeing so far this year? 

 

[jaster220]

16 minutes ago, sumweatherdude said:

As with the cold push in late October, there's a massive, sprawling high pressure over the SE that seems to be impeding the westward movement of cold air that may come down around Thanksgiving.  Is that just a natural consequence of the type of patterns that bring down these cold fronts?  Or is it a distinct feature we just happen to be seeing so far this year? 

 

 

Guessing you meant to say "eastward"?? That looks like that nasty SER @Tom mentioned in his post earlier today.

[sumweatherdude]

8 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

Guessing you meant to say "eastward"?? That looks like that nasty SER @Tom mentioned in his post earlier today.

Fixed it. Thanks.  Yeah, second SE Block (that's what I'm calling them) to pop up together with a cold push.  That's two for two.  Can't help but wonder if it's going to be part of this year's LRC.

[jaster220]

56 minutes ago, sumweatherdude said:

Fixed it. Thanks.  Yeah, second SE Block (that's what I'm calling them) to pop up together with a cold push.  That's two for two.  Can't help but wonder if it's going to be part of this year's LRC.

Yeah, and if so that's NOT standard Nino pattern. That's more a Nina thing, some times pumping the warm air just far enough north to make it rain in SMI when it otherwise would be a snowstorm. Fun times ahead. 

I see the QBO pattern developing that "could" lead to what JB termed "signals for some of the most severe cold waves on record" (I think he's talking mostly about the EC region when he says that but could be here such as one of the analog years of 2014-15. Feb '15 was all-time record coldest February in a lot of MI). 

 

 

[westMJim]

With 97% of possible sunshine the official H/L yesterday at Grand Rapids was 52/40 there was no rain or snow fall. It was another windy day with the highest wind speed of 38 MPH. For today the average H/L is now down to 50/34 the record high of 75 was set last year. The record low of 16 was set in 1957. The most rain of 1.37” fell in 1988 and the most snow of 3.8” was in 2018 the most snow on the ground was 5” in 1921 Last year had that record high of 75 with a low of 52.

There was 0.02” of rain fall overnight here in MBY with clear skies the current temperature is 36.

[Tom]

On this day in history, 48 years ago in 1975, the Edmund Fitzgerald sank over Lake Superior... 

 

https://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

[CentralNebWeather]

Looks like most leaves are down, or very close to falling, as of this morning. Lots of leaf cleanup this weekend. Pretty boring pattern. Hoping some action starts during Thanksgiving week. Seems like the models are having a tough time latching onto how it plays out. 

[gimmesnow]

On 11/9/2023 at 6:37 AM, Clinton said:

A nice phase 7 look towards Thanksgiving weekend on the GEFS.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/Composites/Temperature/OND/combined_image.png

Such a beautiful hard switch from above to below in like two days. Want to smash my record between snowboard and jet ski. My best is Snowboard on a Monday, Jet Ski on a Friday. It's a standup so I have to go in the water, but I Have a 5mm diving suit. There was still ice on the lake. Thankfully it stays warmer into the fall and takes longer to cool off, as opposed to taking longer to warm up in the spring.

Right before Thanksgiving would be a great time to start. If snowboard/ski season starts too late, you end up diving right into the holiday rush and the place is a zoo.

[chescowxman]

After a chance at least across Southern Chester County of some much needed rain today...a stretch of below normal temps will set in again today lasting for much of the next week before a warmup to above normal by next Thursday. Looking at the longer range from this point it looks like another cooling trend should start in by the end of next weekend and last through the Thanksgiving Holiday!

Records for today 74 (2020) / 16 (1973) / Rain 2.05" (1898) / Snow 0.1" (1987)

[MIKEKC]

A white Thanksgiving for KC per the 288hr GFS....lock it in!! 

Meanwhile, following some record cold late in October, KC has enjoyed some beautiful fall weather and temps Sunday through Monday Nov. 20th, look to be well above average with highs in the 60-72 degree range. May be a string of 70 degree days next week. I appreciate fall being fall, I'll enjoy it while it lasts. Plenty of winter time to get our snow fix. 

[sumweatherdude]

36 minutes ago, MIKEKC said:

A white Thanksgiving for KC per the 288hr GFS....lock it in!! 

Meanwhile, following some record cold late in October, KC has enjoyed some beautiful fall weather and temps Sunday through Monday Nov. 20th, look to be well above average with highs in the 60-72 degree range. May be a string of 70 degree days next week. I appreciate fall being fall, I'll enjoy it while it lasts. Plenty of winter time to get our snow fix. 

I like some nice fall weather too.  But 15-20 degrees above normal for too long starts to make me nervous for the rest of the cold season.  Normals next week are low to mid 50s.   But I'm glad to have something to look at on the maps finally!

[Hoosier]

17 hours ago, jaster220 said:

Yeah, and if so that's NOT standard Nino pattern. That's more a Nina thing, some times pumping the warm air just far enough north to make it rain in SMI when it otherwise would be a snowstorm. Fun times ahead. 

I think you're going to have stretches that don't resemble what we think of as the canonical look for a given ENSO state... i.e. La Nina type patterns during an El Nino and El Nino type patterns during a La Nina.  That may be especially true this winter because as has been talked about, there's a big disconnect between ONI and some other measures wrt the Nino.  Also have the -PDO which is quite unusual during a Nino like this.

It's funny to say this because last winter was a Nina and this one will feature a robust Nino, but I'm pretty confident that I'll beat last winter's snow total around here.  Finished sub 20" last winter.  Never say never but I can't see that happening again this winter.

[hawkstwelve]

I'll take members 17, 18, or 27 if mother nature is taking any orders. Please and thank you. 

[Iceresistance]

OH LORD HAVE MERCY!

Look at the difference! That is THE Blue Norther!

[Madtown]

What's going on in here....Nov 25-27th first storm thread

[Black Hole]

A bunch of charts for fun. That was a 384-hour GFS run for the ages lol 

[Black Hole]

Even though of course it probably won't happen like that, the progression the GFS has is similar to many of our big snow events here historically so I am all for it. 

[westMJim]

With the first third of the month in the mean at Grand Rapids so far is 44.7 that is a departure of +1.0 the highest for the month so far is 62 and the lowest so far is 24. There has been 0.71” of rain fall and just a trace of snow fall. At Lansing the mean there so far in 44.0 that is a departure of +0.8 there has been 1.00” of rain fall and there has also been just a trace of snow fall there high and low for the month is also 62 and 24.

The official H/L yesterday at Grand Rapids was 50/34 there was no rain or snow fall. The sun was out 26% of the time. For today the average H/L is 49/34 the record high of 73 was set in 1909 and the record low of 18 was set in 1987. The record rain fall of 1.19” fell in 1911 the record snow fall of 5.8” fell in 1995 the most snow on the ground was 3” in 1933. Last year the H/L was 59/34.

 

[Tom]

19 hours ago, MIKEKC said:

A white Thanksgiving for KC per the 288hr GFS....lock it in!! 

Meanwhile, following some record cold late in October, KC has enjoyed some beautiful fall weather and temps Sunday through Monday Nov. 20th, look to be well above average with highs in the 60-72 degree range. May be a string of 70 degree days next week. I appreciate fall being fall, I'll enjoy it while it lasts. Plenty of winter time to get our snow fix. 

Enjoy the Indian Summer weather...a big snap back to Winter coming Thanksgiving week!  I got my eyes on a couple systems during the Holiday week.

[Tom]

The cool down has come out here in the valley and the cooler days and nights are noteworthy.  Hoodies and light jackets have been the theme and by later next week the mountains could see their first snows, although, it may be a bit to warm except for the Flagstaff area and the higher tops of the White Mountains to my East.  The local Met's are starting to get a bit excited tracking our first chance of precip in over 55 days.  Let's flip that script.

Taking a look at the 0z EPS...this is what the C Plains would like to see...

 

 

 

 

 

[mlgamer]

Yeah, start busting the drought by having a major, maybe historic, ice storm would be about right...lol 

[jaster220]

On 11/10/2023 at 7:44 AM, Tom said:

On this day in history, 78 years ago in 1945, the Edmund Fitzgerald sank over Lake Superior... 

 

https://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

Thanks @Tom, but for the record, the tragic day was in 1975 a bit less distant than 78 yrs ago (only 48 years ago actually). No gales of November yet with 1/3 of the month behind and little on the horizon. It would be some kind of massive data dig to see if the entire state of Michigan ever had a November without a strong storm? I highly doubt it. 

Just going off top of head memory here, but strong autumn "blows" that featured a Big Dog storm the following winter include 1998, 2010, 2013, & 2014. So at least imho, there is some pattern correlation between the two wx phenomenon.

Edit - Could probably add 1991-92 to that list above (and it is cited as a Nino). The Halloween storm was such a blow on the northern lakes, I remember a large freighter came all the way down east Grand Traverse Bay and anchored a couple of days to ride it out. (ships never go there so it was strange and cool at the same time). January of '92 featured a strong storm (some say it was a triple-phaser) that hit the Detroit region a with 10-15" show-stopper. 

[jaster220]

20 hours ago, Hoosier said:

I think you're going to have stretches that don't resemble what we think of as the canonical look for a given ENSO state... i.e. La Nina type patterns during an El Nino and El Nino type patterns during a La Nina.  That may be especially true this winter because as has been talked about, there's a big disconnect between ONI and some other measures wrt the Nino.  Also have the -PDO which is quite unusual during a Nino like this.

It's funny to say this because last winter was a Nina and this one will feature a robust Nino, but I'm pretty confident that I'll beat last winter's snow total around here.  Finished sub 20" last winter.  Never say never but I can't see that happening again this winter.

And I thought it was BAD over here. That's nuts. With a bar set that low, there's only one way to bet so I'm with you. We actually had a decent track for DTW last winter, but the temps were marginal leading to the big ice storm, and the late January storm was more like a shoulder season event where the snow really struggled to accumulate on any treated pavement. We scored 4 Warnings here (1 for ice). Did you even get 1 over there? March was by far my biggest month (vs November in the season prior). Sometimes winter will pick up where it left off the prior season. Time will tell I suppose.

[chescowxman]

We did pick up our first measurable rain since October 30th yesterday....a whopping 0.03". That looks to be the last chance of rain till at least Friday. A chilly below normal temperature week lies ahead with temps falling below freezing the next couple of nights. Milder weather by Friday when we might reach the 60 degree mark!

Records for today: High 73 (1949) / Low 19 (1957) / Rain 2.38" (1995) / Snow 4.7" (1987)

[Tom]

1 hour ago, jaster220 said:

Thanks @Tom, but for the record, the tragic day was in 1975 a bit less distant than 78 yrs ago (only 48 years ago actually). No gales of November yet with 1/3 of the month behind and little on the horizon. It would be some kind of massive data dig to see if the entire state of Michigan ever had a November without a strong storm? I highly doubt it. 

Just going off top of head memory here, but strong autumn "blows" that featured a Big Dog storm the following winter include 1998, 2010, 2013, & 2014. So at least imho, there is some pattern correlation between the two wx phenomenon. 

Your right!  Man, I must have had my mind on some other numbers...LOL, my bad!  I'll make the change.  I also read the WGN blog and they may have had it wrong...gotta fact check everything!

 

[Tom]

48 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

And I thought it was BAD over here. That's nuts. With a bar set that low, there's only one way to bet so I'm with you. We actually had a decent track for DTW last winter, but the temps were marginal leading to the big ice storm, and the late January storm was more like a shoulder season event where the snow really struggled to accumulate on any treated pavement. We scored 4 Warnings here (1 for ice). Did you even get 1 over there? March was by far my biggest month (vs November in the season prior). Sometimes winter will pick up where it left off the prior season. Time will tell I suppose.

I have always thought about this when I really started paying attn to the weather.  I think it was the late 2000's when I saw the weather behave in a manor as you said above.

[chescowxman]

So who's dreaming of a White Thanksgiving and Christmas? Below are long range models for Turkey Day and Christmas. Of course we don't shovel or plow model snow!! If I plowed as much snow as the models forecast last season my blower would have failed me....truth was I never even started it up!

[jaster220]

45 minutes ago, Tom said:

Your right!  Man, I must have had my mind on some other numbers...LOL, my bad!  I'll make the change.  I also read the WGN blog and they may have had it wrong...gotta fact check everything!

 

Idk if that was this year's article? But 2023-1975=48 last time I checked. I really appreciated that they used the famous song lyrics in their meteorology article.  

"...At seven p.m. a main hatchway caved in

he said 'fellas it's bin good to know ya'

"This phrase of the song, while romantic, makes it sound as if the crew knew they were doomed. In reality the sinking of the Fitzgerald was very rapid and it is likely they did not know the seriousness of their condition."

I'm not a sailor, and to my knowledge neither was Gordon Lightfoot, but I have read enough shipwreck stories to get a sense that the mariners are very attentive and attuned to the weather conditions and what impacts they can have. And if the skipper is spooked by conditions, no doubt that would reverberate throughout the crew. They may not have known "the minute" of their demise, but I'd be totally shocked if there wasn't a foreboding of their dire situation. The captain may well have reflected in those moments on his long 44 year career and been thinking "it's been nice to sail with y'all mates" even if he didn't voice it.

These lyrics paint the picture perfectly:

 

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes

when the waves turn the minutes to hours? "

Song writers are artists. Artists take inspiration from many sources. Some folks listen to that song and believe Gordon L. had inspiration from another realm and I would tend to agree. I mean, the story really is told from the inside out. Also, with his break-down of each lake's temperament and personality, I regard the song as "the anthem of the GL's". As a native Michigander it's a special remembrance of our corner of the globe, tragic though it may be.  

[Hoosier]

2 hours ago, jaster220 said:

And I thought it was BAD over here. That's nuts. With a bar set that low, there's only one way to bet so I'm with you. We actually had a decent track for DTW last winter, but the temps were marginal leading to the big ice storm, and the late January storm was more like a shoulder season event where the snow really struggled to accumulate on any treated pavement. We scored 4 Warnings here (1 for ice). Did you even get 1 over there? March was by far my biggest month (vs November in the season prior). Sometimes winter will pick up where it left off the prior season. Time will tell I suppose.

I had 2 winter storm warnings last winter... just before Christmas and early March.  Each one ended up producing only 2-3" in my area.  To be fair, warning amounts were not expected in the December one... that one was issued for the combination of snow, winds, and bitter cold.

Last winter had a lot of misses north as you know.  All one has to do is look at the snow total in Minneapolis to see where the frequent storm track was.  With respect to this upcoming winter, I've been thinking that if we do fall into the Nino regime of storms missing south, then perhaps it would at least open the door to some lake effect around here.  But that is going to depend on the airmasses being cold enough and exact nuances in the flow.  

[jaster220]

9 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

I had 2 winter storm warnings last winter... just before Christmas and early March.  Each one ended up producing only 2-3" in my area.  To be fair, warning amounts were not expected in the December one... that one was issued for the combination of snow, winds, and bitter cold.

Last winter had a lot of misses north as you know.  All one has to do is look at the snow total in Minneapolis to see where the frequent storm track was.  With respect to this upcoming winter, I've been thinking that if we do fall into the Nino regime of storms missing south, then perhaps it would at least open the door to some lake effect around here.  But that is going to depend on the airmasses being cold enough and exact nuances in the flow.  

Agree with the Christmas storm, would've been a WWA any other place/time I have been. And initially from my living room sofa I berated DTX for including Wayne County in the warning headlines, but after venturing out both Christmas Eve and Christmas morning, I retracted my criticism. Conditions were legit bad enough on a major holiday to warrant the upgrade from a WWA. The same "combined effects" were factored in, as discussed in the recent changes to the NWS's official event threshold for a Warning going from 6" to 7" for much of The Mitt.

Yes, I remember calling last year's pattern the MSP/DTW special, just they had the colder air masses up there ofc. 

To the bolded, do you have any list of Nino's that were noteworthy LES producers? I didn't live in a LES region until 1990-2002. Going just from memory, the stronger Nino's like 97-98 featured a lot of mild-n-dry like we are experiencing currently. The "cool" air masses would ooze into the region and not blast in, so there weren't true LES outbreaks. I lived in S. Bend back then and remember being totally annoyed that we had sunny and 40F, while KY was getting buried by their 18" Big Dog. 

[jaster220]

1 hour ago, chescowxman said:

So who's dreaming of a White Thanksgiving and Christmas? Below are long range models for Turkey Day and Christmas. Of course we don't shovel or plow model snow!! If I plowed as much snow as the models forecast last season my blower would have failed me....truth was I never even started it up!

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So who's dreaming of a White Thanksgiving and Christmas?

I would say you are, especially if you've had a stretch of sorry snowless winters and little to get excited about. I think it's pretty obvious that the I-95 weenies are overdue for a good winter. This may be an atypical Nino, but nature will find ways to balance things out. You should be stoked if you like snow and winter. Good luck to ya!

[Hoosier]

9 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

Agree with the Christmas storm, would've been a WWA any other place/time I have been. And initially from my living room sofa I berated DTX for including Wayne County in the warning headlines, but after venturing out both Christmas Eve and Christmas morning, I retracted my criticism. Conditions were legit bad enough on a major holiday to warrant the upgrade from a WWA. The same "combined effects" were factored in, as discussed in the recent changes to the NWS's official event threshold for a Warning going from 6" to 7" for much of The Mitt.

Yes, I remember calling last year's pattern the MSP/DTW special, just they had the colder air masses up there ofc. 

To the bolded, do you have any list of Nino's that were noteworthy LES producers? I didn't live in a LES region until 1990-2002. Going just from memory, the stronger Nino's like 97-98 featured a lot of mild-n-dry like we are experiencing currently. The "cool" air masses would ooze into the region and not blast in, so there weren't true LES outbreaks. I lived in S. Bend back then and remember being totally annoyed that we had sunny and 40F, while KY was getting buried by their 18" Big Dog. 

Yeah it was pretty intense around Christmas last year.  Was certainly a nice change from what the recent Decembers/holidays were like.

As far as LES in Ninos, there was some decent LES on the backside of the March 1998 storm for example.  But that was following the synoptic storm.  As far as LES in Ninos that wasn't preceded by a synoptic storm, I'd have to give it some thought but nothing stands out in my mind at least for my area.  

[chescowxman]

15 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

I would say you are, especially if you've had a stretch of sorry snowless winters and little to get excited about. I think it's pretty obvious that the I-95 weenies are overdue for a good winter. This may be an atypical Nino, but nature will find ways to balance things out. You should be stoked if you like snow and winter. Good luck to ya!

This area is a feast or famine spot if you are a snow weenie! Back in 2020-21 we saw 52.2" of snow - last 2 winters 23.2" total and only a scant 2.7" last season!

[Hoosier]

Thought I'd take a look at the ENSO state for the 10 biggest snowstorms for Chicago.

 

1.  Jan 26-27, 1967:  23.0" -- Neutral

2.  Jan 1-3, 1999:  21.6" -- Nina

3.  Jan 31-Feb 2, 2011:  21.2" -- Nina

4.  Jan 12-14, 1979:  20.3" -- Neutral

5.  Jan 31-Feb 2, 2015:  19.3" -- Nino

6.  Mar 25-26, 1930:  19.2" -- Neutral

7.  Mar 7-8, 1931:  16.2" -- Nino

8.  Jan 6-7, 1918:  14.9" -- Nina

8.  Jan 30, 1939:  14.9" -- Nina

10.  Dec 17-19, 1929:  14.8" -- Neutral

 

As you can see, 4 occurred during Neutral years, 4 occurred during La Nina and only 2 occurred during El Nino.  Of course you can get cute and break it down into strength or whether it was a cool neutral or warm neutral, but I chose not to.  But I would point out that the March 1931 storm occurred in what was apparently a strong Nino winter, so you can't rule out a top 10 snowstorm occurring in any ENSO state/strength despite the seemingly lower odds during a Nino. 

Also, we've been mentioning some big storms in strong Nino years like March 1998, which produced the heaviest totals a bit south of Chicago.  The Feb 1998 storm that bombed Kentucky was also just mentioned by jaster, and I can think of some other pretty big storms in Nino years that didn't miss Chicago by a ton.  So anything is possible.     

 

[OttumwaSnomow]

5 hours ago, chescowxman said:

This area is a feast or famine spot if you are a snow weenie! Back in 2020-21 we saw 52.2" of snow - last 2 winters 23.2" total and only a scant 2.7" last season!

How much did you have in the winter of 93/94.. i lived in south central pa and it was absolutely absurd!! From Jan thru end of march there was a mid week sys weekly! Lots of snow ice mixes. I recorded a ridiculous  96" for the winter. And at one point the shady part on my lawn had 49"!!!  And huge  water content since alot was sleet.

[jaster220]

5 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Thought I'd take a look at the ENSO state for the 10 biggest snowstorms for Chicago.

 

1.  Jan 26-27, 1967:  23.0" -- Neutral

2.  Jan 1-3, 1999:  21.6" -- Nina

3.  Jan 31-Feb 2, 2011:  21.2" -- Nina

4.  Jan 12-14, 1979:  20.3" -- Neutral

5.  Jan 31-Feb 2, 2015:  19.3" -- Nino

6.  Mar 25-26, 1930:  19.2" -- Neutral

7.  Mar 7-8, 1931:  16.2" -- Nino

8.  Jan 6-7, 1918:  14.9" -- Nina

8.  Jan 30, 1939:  14.9" -- Nina

10.  Dec 17-19, 1929:  14.8" -- Neutral

 

As you can see, 4 occurred during Neutral years, 4 occurred during La Nina and only 2 occurred during El Nino.  Of course you can get cute and break it down into strength or whether it was a cool neutral or warm neutral, but I chose not to.  But I would point out that the March 1931 storm occurred in what was apparently a strong Nino winter, so you can't rule out a top 10 snowstorm occurring in any ENSO state/strength despite the seemingly lower odds during a Nino. 

Also, we've been mentioning some big storms in strong Nino years like March 1998, which produced the heaviest totals a bit south of Chicago.  The Feb 1998 storm that bombed Kentucky was also just mentioned by jaster, and I can think of some other pretty big storms in Nino years that didn't miss Chicago by a ton.  So anything is possible.     

As posted in the other thread, the super Nino of 72-73 delivered a late season Big Dog just east of yby with a couple of locations scoring huge numbers. Up in Bay City, they not only had the huge snows, the intense NE winds funneling down the bay caused a massive flood as well. Imagine downtown Chicago being flooded during GHD-1. Like you said, while the odds are not as favorable during a Nino, we do have Hunga Tonga moisture to work with so who knows? Can't rule out anything at this point.  

[jaster220]

Temps dropping like a rock here. Just a couple hours after sundown and spotty locales at or even below freezing.

[Andie]

Stop and go outside- look up!  

The aurora forecast from NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center shows the southern extent of the Northern Lights stretching from northern Oregon to central Iowa to the southern tier of New York.

[Madtown]

2" down here...absolutely gorgeous outside

[jaster220]

Coming to a Midwest near you:

 

[westMJim]

The official H/L yesterday at Grand Rapids was 50/29 there was no rain or snow. The sun was out 47% of the possible time. It was not a very windy day with the highest wind of 12 MPH out of the SE. For today the average H/L is 49/34 the record high of 68 was set in 1992 today is the first day in the season that has not gotten to 70. The record low of 15 was set in 1911 and 1986. The most rain fall of 0.89” fell in 1992 the most snow fall of 3.6” fell in 1997 the most on the ground was 5.0” in 1995. Last year the H/L was 41/32 and there was a trace of snowfall.

[Tom]

@jaster220, that WGN article was written a couple days ago. and I added that youtube video.   I get the chills listening to that song and I can't imagine what those sailors went through during that last voyage of the Fitzgerald.

On a brighter note, it's Sunday and beautiful day is forecast today with highs in the mid 80's which is about 5 degrees AN.  The forecast back in Chi is about as good as it gets in NOV.  Nothing but that golden Sun over the next 5 days!

 

[Clinton]

The Euro starting to get consistent with a Thanksgiving week soaker.  Can it phase with some cold air?  Regardless the moisture looks fantastic!

blob:https://www.pivotalweather.com/ff98480d-76fd-4291-892e-0f3d1318a65a

 

 

[gimmesnow]

8 hours ago, jaster220 said:

Coming to a Midwest near you:

 

Is it just me or has the weather been more extreme on one side of the planet than the other? Like our winters in USA are terrible but EU and Russia get pounded. We get much warmer temps than normal but China is way below.