I'd smoke you all better than I smoke these DAWGS on the grill

The runner in me agrees. I'm just glad I'm in the "down phase" for another 4 weeks, and don't hit peak cycle until mid-February (70-75 miles a week). The meteorologist in me is still saying Jan 1-Feb 15 is the action time as I've started my re-look for the December outlook. Frankly I'm glad I had 3/5 top analogs ENSO neutral, as it's making the re-look a little easier. And 1/2 years that was a La Nina had by far the best PDO match (which was a bigger struggle this year).

ENSO subsurface beats surface SSTs, OLR, zonal wind, etc by about 150%!

I'll have to look at this later when I'm not so disgusted.

Very true. I still think we could get absolutely clobbered this winter, but I'm just sick of this crap we're currently in. Even now the low level moisture just refuses to leave.