Beautiful country up there. A gal I dated in high school went skiing up on Beech Mountain with her church group. She took a 1 hour lesson then went blasting down a black diamond (she obviously had no idea what a "black diamond" course meant). The Orthopedic Surgeon (you had to know a story like that was going to end up there) said that her knee looked like she played a full career in the NFL, and *then* went out and had a skiing accident. 12" scar down one side of her knee, and about an 8" scar down the other side. Tore/blew out everything that can be torn and blown out in a human knee.