Fair enough. My point is, this conversation is pointless. Yes, I undoubtedly think blue collar jobs are harder than white collar jobs, but I am happy with the work I got into and I think it suited me a lot better than sitting in an office all day. Everyone's different, these comparisons are stupid. Most (key word, MOST) of us here are privileged to be able to have these jobs, and to be quite frank I think it is stupid to complain about sitting in a safe and well temperatured office all day that pays for your life, that is the job you chose and were lucky enough to have, be thankful for it or find a new job. Sorry for getting into this, I did not want it to turn into a debate.

That’s back at the place we used to live (still in the family). I just took a quick vid of this windmageddon though. Going to look at the EPS then try and get some sleep. Will upload it to YouTube tomorrow!

Is that the wind I hear on your live cam? Jeez....

Yeah let m look. Sorry I’m half asleep lol we just got woken up by absolutely satanic winds. have no idea what’s going on I think we’re above a snowcover induced thermal inversion and pressure rises are augmenting flow.

I'm not saying they are harder than manual labor, I was responding to white collar jobs being a joke. I would much rather do manual labor too, and in hindsight, I wish I had gone into the trades but it was not an option for me. For the record, I've worked plenty of manual labor jobs, and can fully appreciate the difference between white collar and blue collar. My mom was a receptionist with no college degree, so I had to work all through high school. Full time in the summer, and about 20-25 hours a week during the school year. Through middle school and part of high school while my friends sat around the pool and went to the mall I worked in tobacco farming in deep south Georgia in July and August. That's a special kind of hell right there. On the other side of the temperature spectrum I've helped my wife's family with ranching in Montana in the winter time....not a lot, but enough to appreciate how hard the work is. I also did landscaping (summertime in Georgia), waited tables, cooked in restaurants, managed a couple of restaurants, held numerous production jobs building electronic components, aircraft components, and I've been an aerospace parts painter (killed a few brain cells on that one). Hell I even apprenticed at a print shop. At the end of the day, with a blue collar job: The house gets wired, or plumbed, or framed... the cows get fed, the crops get brought in from the field. It's hard work, but you have real tangible results that you can see at the end of the day. for my white collar job: Being on the sales side of things, I have some satisfaction knowing that I am at least a cog in the wheel that keeps people employed. But in all reality, there are no tangible results to the work I do. When all is said and done, All I'm really doing is making a bunch of executives a lot richer.