gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 NEJeremey spews out s**t and won't respond to people who own himAgree. Do u really think this ban does anything? To me it puts a bigger target on the country. Stop for a 2nd and think about what some people in those countries go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 The ban will get lifted and trump will tell us how much better he made the interview process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 lol it's not a ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Can you respond to why some countries and not other I mean turkey, saudi arabia, india, the list goes on.Can't verify this but I have heard those seven countries will not accept dangerous criminals that are from those countries when we catch them and try to send them back. Not sure if true, but if so, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 lol it's not a banUmmm ok?? What would you call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Can't verify this but I have heard those seven countries will not accept dangerous criminals that are from those countries when we catch them and try to send them back. Not sure if true, but if so, it makes sense.More power to those who think this is ok... dont let that 6 year old syrian into our country make him stay in his... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 More power to those who think this is ok... dont let that 6 year old syrian into our country make him stay in his...I am not for a permanent ban at all. I am for a permanent better and more stringent vetting process. And about your 6 year old Syrian refugee, I think place them at one of the safe zone that is going to be set up and vet him or his family and then allow. Better vetting is needed otherwise one of us could be killed like those in Nice or in Germany. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I am not for a permanent ban at all. I am for a permanent better and more stringent vetting process. And about your 6 year old Syrian refugee, I think place them at one of the safe zone that is going to be set up and vet him or his family and then allow.I can buy your thinking. This could of been way better thought out. This puts a larger target on our country while further dividing it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is what it is. It's a temp ban until a better system can be worked out Obama did the same exact thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Can't verify this but I have heard those seven countries will not accept dangerous criminals that are from those countries when we catch them and try to send them back. Not sure if true, but if so, it makes sense.Hadn't researched it out very well but I believe this is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is what it is. It's a temp ban until a better system can be worked out Obama did the same exact thingTo one country right. That I didnt like at the time either Harding did the same thing right... That was great to right Feel all warm and fuzzy about that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Trump currently realizing his power can be checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Melt my little snowflakes melt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Melt my little snowflakes meltU never get snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 So, get this! Did a little research...and these seven countries were selected by the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!! Unreal, how the news doesn't report this. This guy did some digging and it turns out, Trump is just following through and enforcing from what I can understand. How bout them apples!!??? LOL...none of these protesters know that it was their "hero" President that started this all in motion! https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Surprise surprise Soros is behind this. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/28/terror-tied-group-cair-causing-chaos-promoting-protests-lawsuits-as-trump-protects-nation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Here is a little reminder on my we need vetting. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3893436/Angela-Merkel-pressure-refugee-policy-revealed-migrants-committed-142-500-crimes-Germany-six-months-2016.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 So, get this! Did a little research...and these seven countries were selected by the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!! Unreal, how the news doesn't report this. This guy did some digging and it turns out, Trump is just following through and enforcing from what I can understand. How bout them apples!!??? LOL...none of these protesters know that it was their "hero" President that started this all in motion! https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/Is there a difference between banning refugees and that law?? And the 7 country thing still whack. SAUDI ARABIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 From what I can understand of all the governmental lingo et al, is that those seven countries were identified a few years ago by the DHS, I believe in 2015 or 2011. Saudi Arabia may be added---I thought I heard Trump say that more may be added but I think legally these were the seven countries that had already been identified. Doesn't help that his cabinet is not fully vetted and sworn in yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Regardless, I think we ALL, or at least I hope we all can agree that there could have been a better transition of this new EO...rather than letting people know when they land or at least those overseas to come back now before it is/was enforced. That would have been a lot better than what has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Is there a difference between banning refugees and that law?? And the 7 country thing still whack. SAUDI ARABIAYour candidate didn't mind taking 25 million dollars from them. Lol. Wonder now if they were buying a way to keep their name off the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Regardless, I think we ALL, or at least I hope we all can agree that there could have been a better transition of this new EO...rather than letting people know when they land or at least those overseas to come back now before it is/was enforced. That would have been a lot better than what has happened.Ya for sure. No matter what some of this could of been avoided at least partially if there was a plan for that in place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Regardless, I think we ALL, or at least I hope we all can agree that there could have been a better transition of this new EO...rather than letting people know when they land or at least those overseas to come back now before it is/was enforced. That would have been a lot better than what has happened.Can definitely agree there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Your candidate didn't mind taking 25 million dollars from them. Lol. Wonder now if they were buying a way to keep their name off the list.They should be on the list if this list is really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Your candidate didn't mind taking 25 million dollars from them. Lol. Wonder now if they were buying a way to keep their name off the list.The only reason she was my candidate was because she was better than the alternative. She however no longer my candidate and she has nothing to do with the topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I agree that they should be on the list. I shouldn't be such a contrarian all the time. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I agree that they should be on the list. I shouldn't be such a contrarian all the time. Sorry.Contrary is my middle name. Not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is a well-written article on the bans. https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/444370/donald-trump-refugee-executive-order-no-muslim-ban-separating-fact-hysteria?client=ms-android-verizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is a well-written article on the bans. https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/444370/donald-trump-refugee-executive-order-no-muslim-ban-separating-fact-hysteria?client=ms-android-verizonGood luck getting the facts out. The media in this country is on the side of ISIS, not freedom. They talk about the GOP taking womens rights away but they are silent on how brutal women are treated in the Muslim countries that they adore so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Good luck getting the facts out. The media in this country is on the side of ISIS, not freedom. They talk about the GOP taking womens rights away but they are silent on how brutal women are treated in the Muslim countries that they adore so much.That brutality is why people take refuge. Duh. So when I say people should be allowed to take refuge it means I love the way syria operates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 That brutality is why people take refuge. Duh. So when I say people should be allowed to take refuge it means I love the way syria operates?so you are OK with us letting in thousands of men who are of fighting age who should be fighting instead of fleeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 so you are OK with us letting in thousands of men who are of fighting age who should be fighting instead of fleeing?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yes.so you dont think that they should actually be fighting for their homeland? I mean if that was happening here id be fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 so you dont think that they should actually be fighting for their homeland? I mean if that was happening here id be fighting.So dont let any of them in then? Relatively easy to say as an armchair qb. When the ban gets lifted which it will they will be able to leave right? Will that be trumps fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 id be OK with women and children coming in after vetting, but men of fighting age should fight, not flee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 id be OK with women and children coming in after vetting, but men of fighting age should fight, not fleeLol how about men unfit to fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Lol how about men unfit to fight?Maybe you can invite them to stay on your land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Maybe you can invite them to stay on your landDont think we will have to worry about it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yes.One of these refugees comes in and kills hundreds of Americans than what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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