Yeah, it's unprecedented in a modern election to even have a debate prior to the actual conventions. Part of me thinks that must have also been driven by mounting internal pressure in the Democratic Party. They wanted a litmus test and now they have one. The only question is who? Newsom is probably the only one with the brand name recognition to glide into the race like that at short notice.

... Yes? Have you never seen me in this thread which I have been posting to for 7 years? I lean right. It's possible to be reasonable and see both sides of the coin while also leaning a certain way. Trump won the debate tonight but he deserves zero credit for it.

Ok, you agree Biden is not good, glad we cleared that up.

Will be interesting. I think that was the strategy for having it so early.

Massive amount of slugs this evening.