Phil Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Crush job and bifurcation: 1mb http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3540/hpda.jpg 10mb http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4586/kbig.jpg Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Crush job and bifurcation: 1mb http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3540/hpda.jpg 10mb http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4586/kbig.jpg Exactly. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitechristmas Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Crush job and bifurcation: 1mb http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3540/hpda.jpg 10mb http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4586/kbig.jpg Does a "crush job" finally mean WINTER for the PNW, or does it mean we'll be crushed...again??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Crush job and bifurcation: 1mb http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3540/hpda.jpg 10mb http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4586/kbig.jpgWhat hell does this mean!? For the PNW?! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Does a "crush job" finally mean WINTER for the PNW, or does it mean we'll be crushed...again???Putting it simply, breaking down the PV releases the shackles holding the coldest air up at the pole. Flow turns increasingly meridional in nature, and cold air spills into the mid latitudes. The PV is being bombarded by wave breakers and the shifting stress fields associated with the QBO, which is in a declining state. The cooling of the equatorial Strat is slowly igniting the MJO, further amplifying the Rossby wave train. A weaker/disrupted stratospheric PV increases vertical shear on zonal flow below and reduces downward transport of frigid gases from the polar mesosphere, hence you break down the vortex column and often fall into a -NAM/-EPO dominated regime. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Crush job and bifurcation: 1mb http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3540/hpda.jpg 10mb http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4586/kbig.jpgPV Split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 18z GFS is running! Is anyone else excited because I am not. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim1357 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 It is likely 95-105mph(if not stronger) at Crown Point, but I have no idea the sensor is down as is Corbett's (Power outage)I just got back from Crown Point. It was not as strong as Friday for sure but it gave my kids a thrill. I'd guess the strongest gust was in the 85-90mph range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Exactly.Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 18z GFS is running! Is anyone else excited because I am not. :ph34r: Looks like the low is MUCH further south than the models have it! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty67 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 What hell does this mean!? For the PNW?!Polar Vortex splitting. Could mean something for us, could mean nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brody Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 18z GFS is running! Is anyone else excited because I am not. :ph34r:Ohhh Ahhh Geee Lemme think No Although the colder members on the ensembles is encouraging but it's all still too far out for me to put to much thought or emotion into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Looks like the low is MUCH further south than the models have it!Oh wow really.... I'll have to load it up and look. *falls asleep* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Oh wow really.... I'll have to load it up and look. *falls asleep* Check the water vapor loop!!! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I just got back from Crown Point. It was not as strong as Friday for sure but it gave my kids a thrill. I'd guess the strongest gust was in the 85-90mph range.Corbett had a gust to 74 this morning which equates to over 100mph along the steps at Vista House. Also, from judging that along with Biddle Butte gusts compared to the past 2 events which is slightly lower I'd say 95mph+ I bet is about spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Check the water vapor loop!!!Terrifying. It is nice to see a frontal boundary inside 130 W though. Rarehttp://sat.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/4km/NW/WV4NW.GIF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Just for the heck of it..... 18z GFS 500mb HR 120http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/18/gfs_npac_120_500_vort_ht.gif HR 144http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/18/gfs_npac_144_500_vort_ht.gif HR 156http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/18/gfs_npac_156_500_vort_ht.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 18z has a modified arctic front through the Sound at hour 192. 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 HR 168http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/18/gfs_npac_168_500_vort_ht.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 This run isn't as good as the 12z for the PNW, but continues the theme of modified arctic air. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 This run isn't as good as the 12z for the PNW, but continues the theme of modified arctic air.At least the 500mb pattern gets its act together sooner. Ridge/block merger near day 7. Better than seeing it at day 10-12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Annoying that its so dry... looks very much like December. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Annoying that its so dry... looks very much like December. Funny. I looked at it just now and I thought "Tim is going to comment about how dry this run is." Models are just starting to get their act together. Do some yoga. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brody Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Annoying that its so dry... looks very much like December.True but at least our mountain waterfalls haven't run dry or nearly dry like they have in Yosemite Nat.park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Funny. I looked at it just now and I thought "Tim is going to comment about how dry this run is." Models are just starting to get their act together. Do some yoga. Does not really bother me too much... would be nice to get a shot at meaningful snow if its going to cold. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Is that a Pineapple Express past hour 300? Meteostar wouldn't let me load the images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Does not really bother me too much... would be nice to get a shot at meaningful snow if its going to cold. Wouldn't it though??? I enjoy snow. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Is that a Pineapple Express past hour 300? Meteostar wouldn't let me load the images. Ye may only speak of 300 hours if ye has something POSITIVE to say about it. I'm not sure how the attitude police will feel about this, but I think a quick burst of cold/coldish/impactfully cool followed by a significantly wet pattern feels right. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Wet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Something to wash our newly acquired mountain snow down the hill and the east coast might get another much needed arctic blast at the end of the run as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 The 18z GFS is super, it brings arctic air. For Vancouver BC and Seattle, 850 temperatures get to -15 and for Portland/Troutdale -13. All of this is inside 228 hours, getting closer now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 It may be the 18z, but I definitely like the 500mb pattern progression developing day 6-7 it looks more "believable" if you will. AND you will! or else.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Something to wash our newly acquired mountain snow down the hill and the east coast might get another much needed arctic blast at the end of the run as well.Yeah, those poor folks have been really deprived of cold and snow this Winter. It simply isn't fair that we keep hogging all of the goodies. We simply are stuck up and selfish how we refuse to share. We were taught to share! screw the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 18Z is definitely cold. Still a strange evolution. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yeah, those poor folks have been really deprived of cold and snow this Winter. It simply isn't fair that we keep hogging all of the goodies. We simply are stuck up and selfish how we refuse to share. We were taught to share! screw the rulesI think at this point, they might start groaning at another blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think at this point, they might start groaning at another blast.Perhaps. Would we? ever? Just for shits and giggles imagine if we had 5-7 arctic blasts say from December 10th - February 20th, do you think anyone would complain or get tired of "the D**n snow and cold!" hmmm... I don't know. I'd be okay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Perhaps. Would we? ever? Just for shits and giggles imagine if we had 5-7 arctic blasts say from December 10th - February 20th, do you think anyone would complain or get tired of "the D**n snow and cold!" hmmm... I don't know. I'd be okay with it.Epic! "shits" isn't censored but "D**n" is lmao... I love this place *high 5's iFred* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Epic! "shits" isn't censored but "D**n" is lmao... I love this place *high 5's iFred* ^ LOL! SHITS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 The 18z GFS looks like a repeat of early Dec. -15 cold air arrives but no moisture until too warm temps to support snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 ^ LOL! SHITS ^ LOL... oh god I could do this all day.... *calms down.... inject tranquilizers* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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