Hoosier Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I always feel like the anniversary sneaks up on me, probably because it's at the beginning of the year. 25 years. Wow. In some ways it seems like 25 years ago but in other ways it seems like less time has passed. This was a special storm for some of us, so please share your memories, pics, etc. Radar loop, courtesy of greatlakes.salsite.com 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 A couple things this storm is known for is the large area of significant snow and the heavy snow amounts that occurred east of the surface low track. There was plenty of antecedent cold air in place across the region, and then as that started to erode, the system began to occlude, shunting the warm sector away. Normally you're not going to see those kinds of snow amounts east of the surface low, especially in this part of the country which lacks legit mountains to assist with CAD. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 ILLINOIS STATE FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL 300 AM CST FRI JAN 1 1999 WHAT A MESS TO WALK INTO AFTER HOLIDAY LEAVE TIMING OF ONSET OF PRECIP, LOCATION OF ANY FREEZING PRECIP, CONVERSION OF WATCHES TO WARNINGS, SNOW AMOUNTS, AMONG THE CHALLENGES. MODELS NOT EXACTLY IN GREAT AGREEMENT WITH NGM BECOMING THE SLOWEST, BY 6-12 HOURS, AT THE FAR END OF THE 00Z MODEL RUNS. SLOWER NGM ALLOWS WARMER AIR TO PUSH FARTHER NOTABLY NORTH AND WOULD INCREASE THE THREAT OF EXCESSIVE SNOWS (UPWARDS OF A FOOT) TOWARD CHICAGO. WHILE IT IS FAR FROM CERTAIN SINCE WE ARE STILL WAITING ON SYNCHRONIZING OF NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAM SYSTEMS DURING THIS FORECAST PERIOD, WILL LEAN TOWARD THE FASTER AVN AND ETA SOLUTIONS. THIS NEVER REALLY ALLOWS TEMPS AT ANY LEVEL OVER NORTHEAST IL TO GET MUCH ABOVE -10. EXCESSIVE SNOWFALLTHREAT THEN SHIFTS SOUTHWARD INTO THE QUINCE-KANKAKEE TO BELLEVILLE-TERRE HAUTE CORRIDOR. AS DISCUSSED WITH PAH...THREAT OF SIGNIFICANT ICING NEAR OHIO RIVER IS DIMINISHED EVEN WITH THE FASTER/COLDER ETA/AVN. HOWEVER AS COLD AS SURFACE TEMPS ARE, A SHORTER ICE EVENT REMAINS A GOOD POSSIBILITY AND FOR NOW WILL MAINTAIN LATE FIRST PERIOD WATCH. SEE GREATER THREAT OF ICE FOR 50-75 MILES SOUTH OF ABOVE NOTED EXCESSIVE SNOW BAND. MANUAL HEAVY SNOW GUIDANCE LOOKS PRETTY REASONABLE...MAYBE JUST A TAD FAR EAST FOR TODAYS 4 INCH AMOUNTS. MANUALLY AND MODEL SUGGESTED TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS EXCEED A FOOT IN MUCH OF AREA MENTIONED ABOVE...BY TOMORROW MORNING SOMETIME. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED...ESPECIALLY IF ANY CONVECTIVE SNOWS OCCUR...TO SEE SOME LOCAL 2O PLUS AMOUNTS BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE. WILL SUGGEST THIS IN WSW. TO SUMMARIZE WARNING/WATCH DECISIONS... WILL UP THE GOING WATCHES TO HEAVY SNOW WARNINGS IN WEST CENTRAL SECTIONS TO THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT AND GO WITH 2ND/3RD PERIOD WARNING FOR EAST CENTRAL SECTIONS WITH ICE ALONG SOUTHERN EDGE. IF ETA-AVN VERIFY, ROCKFORD (ESPECIALLY) AND CHICAGO AREA MAY NEVER ACTUALLY VERIFY HEAVY SNOW, BUT WITH REMAINING UNCERTAINTY, WATCH WILL BE CONTINUED ACROSS THE NORTH. THANKS FOR COORD: PAH, DVN, ILX, MKX, IND, LSX. .CHI...WINTER STORM WATCH...NORTH AND PORTIONS FAR SOUTH TONIGHT AND SATURDAY HEAVY SNOW/WINTER STORM WARNING...WEST CENTRAL TODAY INTO SATURDAY. EAST CENTRAL TONIGHT AND SATURDAY. KAPLAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 ILLINOIS STATE FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL 245 PM CST FRI JAN 1 1999 POSSIBLY THE BIGGEST WINTER STORM IN PARTS OF ILLINOIS IN 20 YEARS. ETA AND NGM MODEL LOOK REASONABLE IN TRACK AND INTENSITY OF STORM THOUGH SLIGHTLY SLOWER SPEED OF NGM PREFERED. AVN SOLN A LITTLE TROUBLESOME...IT WOULD GIVE LESS SNOW ESPECIALLY TO NW IL. EITHER WAY A MAJOR STORM WITH NRN STREAM VORT MAX/UPR LOW MERGING WITHSRN VORT COMING OUT OF TEX. JUST A MATTER OF TIMING AND FINAL POSITIONING. PLENTY OF GULF MOISTURES AS SEEN BY 850 DEWPTS OF 8 TO 10 C INTO EAST TEXAS AND OK THIS MRNG. SFC DWPTS IN 50S E TEXAS SPRDG N. CERTAINLY PLENTY OF ARCTIC AIR IN PLACE.STORM SHD REALLY WIND UP TNGT AND SAT AND HEAD TWD SW IN BY SAT EVE. HEAVY SNOW BAND EXPECTED FM STL TO BRL NEWD TO RFD TO SBN. HEAVIEST SNOW LOOKS TO BE THRU CNTRL AND NE IL WHERE AMOUNTS TO 18 INCHES POSSIBLE. SRN IL WILL SEE A MESSY MIX OF SNOW THEN FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET...THEN MAYBE RAIN FOR A PERIOD LATE TNGT AND ERY SAT BEFORE CHANGING TO SNOW AND ENDING SAT EVE. VERY WINDY SAT AND ESPECIALLY SAT NGT AND SUN WITH WIND CHILLS 15 TO 25 BELOW...SEVERE BLOWING AND DRIFTING AND NEAR BLIZZARD CONDS. COULD BE SOME LAKEENHANCEMENT SAT NGT AND ERY SUN FOR NE IL. LAKESHORE STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED FOR NE IL MAY NEED WARNING SAT. .CHI...WINTER STORM WARNING SRN IL TNGT AND SAT WINTER STORM WARNING CNTRL IL TNGT THRU SAT NGT GALE WARNING LM AND LS ALLSOPP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 ILLINOIS STATE FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL 300 AM CST SAT JAN 2 1999 ADDED WARNING INFO... MODELS HAVE COME INTO REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT AT 500 MB AND WITH EVENTUAL LOCATION OF SURFACE LOW OVER CENTRAL GREAT LAKES, THOUGH THE ETA TRACKS THE LOW FURTHER WEST ON THE WAY TO ITS 48 HOUR POSITION. WILL ACCEPT THIS BASED ON RECENT SURFACE PRESSURE FALL PATTERNS AND THE FACT THAT THE FARTHEST WEST TRACK ALMOST ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE MORE CORRECT WITH STRONG SYSTEMS HEADING NORTH. SYSTEM IS CERTAINLY COMPLEX WITH SIGNIFICANT HEAVY SNOW HAVING FALLEN ALREADY (& CONTINUING) IN PARTS OF CENTRAL/NORTH ASSOCIATED WITH GOOD ISENTROPIC LIFT BUT NOTNECESSARILY KEYED TO ANY 500 MB VORT MAX. BASED ON CURRENT RADAR AND SATELLITE LOOPS THIS APPEARS POISED TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD SLOWLY NORTH TODAY. ON THE OTHER HAND, POWER HOUSE VORT MAX PRESENTLY IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA IS FORECAST TO DIG SOUTH TODAY THEN RECURVE TONIGHT IN A PATH THAT OUGHT TO REINVIGORATE SNOWFALL AND SUSTAIN GOOD LIFT OVER NORTHERN AND ESPECIALLY NORTHEAST IL THROUGH MUCH OF SATURDAY NIGHT. THIS IS CONFIRMED BY VERTICAL VELOCITY TIME-SECTIONS. MANUAL HEAVY SNOW OUTLOOK FOR OVERNIGHT PERIOD LOOKS UNDERDONE IN NORTHEAST IL. ADDED FEATURE WILL BE A AT LEAST A FEW HOURS OF LAKE ENHANCEMENT IN CHICAGO AREA AS WINDS SWING MORE NORTHEAST DURING THE NIGHT. LEMO METHOD SUGGEST MAX STORM TOTAL OF AROUND 18 INCHES. WILL ACCEPT WFO INPUT FOR THEIR AREAS...BUT LOOKS LIKE 12-18 INCH STORM TOTAL FOR MUCH OF NORTHEAST IL, LESSER AMOUNTS SOUTHEASTWARD IN NORTHWEST IN. WINDS IN NORTHEAST LOOK TO BE A LITTLE LESS THREATENING THAN THOUGHT PREVIOUSLY WITH MORE WESTERLY TRACK OF SURFACE LOW. EARLIER LAKESHORE EROSION POTENTIAL STATEMENT WILL BE KILLED. ON THE OTHER HAND WINDS GUSTING UP TO AND OVER 30 IN MANY AREAS NOW, SO NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS SHOULD APPEAR IN ZONES MUCH OF CENTRAL AND NORTH. STILL COULD MEET BLIZZARD CRITERIA FOR A TIME IN PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST THROUGH WEST CENTRAL AND WILL NEED TO MONITOR. CENTRAL AND PARTS OF SOUTHEAST ILLINOIS IN THE MIDST OF SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT AND MAY NEED TO GO WITH ICE STORM WARNINGS THERE. WARMER AIR WILL ALLEVIATE PROBLEMS IN FAR SOUTH LATER TODAY. POTENTIAL AFTER CHANGE BACK TO SNOW SEEMS LIMITED HOWEVER WITH MODELS SUGGESTING SUBSIDENCE/DRY SLOTTING LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT. SEE LINCOLN AND PADUCAH DISCUSSIONS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION. DEEPENING LOW LIKELY TO PULL ARCTIC AIR INTO STATE TONIGHT AND SUNDAY WITH MUCH OF STATE SEEING STEADY OR FALLING TEMPS SUNDAY. ESPECIALLY WITH SNOW COVER, POTENTIAL FOR LARGE MOS ERRORS LOOMS. .CHI...WINTER STORM WARNING TODAY AND TONIGHT NORTH AND CENTRAL ICE STORM WARNING TODAY PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST GALE WARNING LM AND LS KAPLAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL 445 AM CST SAT JAN 2 1999 ...SEVERE WINTER STORM WILL CONTINUE TO PUMMEL MUCH OF ILLINOIS TODAY AND TONIGHT... .A SEVERE WINTER STORM WILL CONTINUE BURY MUCH OF NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ILLINOIS UNDER VERY HEAVY SNOW TODAY AND TONIGHT WITH MAJOR ICE PROBLEMS IN PARTS OF THE EAST CENTRAL NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO DEVELOP. TRAVEL WILL BE DANGEROUS WHERE IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. ILZ005>006-012>014-020>023-032-INZ001>002-021700- MCHENRY-LAKE-KANE-DU PAGE-COOK-KENDALL-GRUNDY-WILL-KANKAKEE- LIVINGSTON-LAKE-PORTER- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF WOODSTOCK... WAUKEGAN... AURORA... WHEATON... CHICAGO... MORRIS... JOLIET... KANKAKEE... PONTIAC... GARY... VALPARAISO ...WINTER STORM WARNING THROUGHTONIGHT... SNOW WILL CONTINUE HEAVILY AT TIMES THROUGH TODAY AND TONIGHT AND BY THE TIME IT STOPS ACCUMULATING SUNDAY MORNING 12 TO 18 INCHES OF SNOW SHOULD ACCUMULATE. THERE WILL ALSO BE CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW WITH LOCAL WHITEOUT CONDITIONS. MANY ROADS WILL LIKELY BECOME IMPASSABLE LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT ESPECIALLY IN OPEN AREAS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 What makes this storm even more special for me is that it's really the first huge storm I remember (total near 20" imby), and being able to track it from several days away. My weather memory goes back to the late 80s. I remember a couple storms that snuck into double digits from around 1988-1994. Then it pretty much sucked until the March 9, 1998 storm, but that was a surprise 12" so couldn't track it ahead of time. There's a big difference between 10-12" storms and 20" storms. Not sure if anybody in the Chicago area remembers Shelly Monahan from channel 5, but one of my standout memories was when she mentioned that totals could reach 2 feet around Kankakee. I remember thinking oh my God and hoping that would happen a little farther north lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 Some official snowfall totals. Just such a widespread storm: Alpena, MI (APN): 11.5" Chicago, IL (MDW): 20.6" Chicago, IL (ORD): 21.6" Cleveland, OH (CLE): 6.2" Columbia, MO (COU): 9.3" Columbus, OH (CMH): 6.6" Dayton, OH (DAY): 7.5" Des Moines, IA (DSM): 7.7" Detroit, MI (DTW): 11.3" Dubuque, IA (DBQ): 11.2" Eau Claire, WI (EAU): 6.0" Findlay, OH (FDY): 7.7" Flint, MI (FNT): 8.5" Fort Wayne, IN (FWA): 8.4" Grand Rapids, MI (GRR): 15.6" Green Bay, WI (GRB): 7.7" Houghton Lake, MI (HTL): 17.3" Indianapolis, IN (IND): 10.9" Jackson, MI (JXN): 16.0" La Crosse, WI (LSE): 9.6" Lafayette, IN (LAF): 12.0" Lansing, MI (LAN): 11.6" Madison, WI (MSN): 10.9" Mason City, IA (MCW): 14.6" Milwaukee, WI (MKE): 15.4" Minneapolis, MN (MSP): 8.2" Moline, IL (MLI): 14.3" Muncie, IN (MIE): 16.2" Muskegon, MI (MKG): 9.3" Ottumwa, IA (OTM): 8.0" Peoria, IL (PIA): 14.1" Quincy, IL (UIN): 13.5" Rochester, MN (RST): 7.3" Rockford, IL (RFD): 9.0" Romeoville, IL (LOT): 15.3" Saginaw, MI (MBS): 13.2" St Louis, MO (STL): 8.0" South Bend, IN (SBN): 18.9" Springfield, IL (SPI): 13.4" Sullivan, WI (MKX): 13.6" Toledo, OH (TOL): 7.9" Waterloo, IA (ALO): 12.5" Wausau, WI (AUW): 7.1" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2024 at 1:17 PM, Hoosier said: What makes this storm even more special for me is that it's really the first huge storm I remember (total near 20" imby), and being able to track it from several days away. My weather memory goes back to the late 80s. I remember a couple storms that snuck into double digits from around 1988-1994. Then it pretty much sucked until the March 9, 1998 storm, but that was a surprise 12" so couldn't track it ahead of time. There's a big difference between 10-12" storms and 20" storms. Not sure if anybody in the Chicago area remembers Shelly Monahan from channel 5, but one of my standout memories was when she mentioned that totals could reach 2 feet around Kankakee. I remember thinking oh my God and hoping that would happen a little farther north lol. I remember this storm vividly as I was driving home from my NYE celebrations on New Year's day with a hint of initial lake effect snow showers coming off the lake on I-294 heading north towards ORD. Back then, I didn't use any websites to track the storm and only followed the local news channels and TWC. Boy, that storm was something else as it just dumped snow but I remember it was a finer/less fluffy snow character. This was my biggest storm to date in my early years of when I really started paying attn to the weather. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 You can see the lake snow bands shifting west in this animation below towards NE IL.... https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/current/mcview.phtml?prod=lotrad&java=script&mode=archive&frames=50&interval=10&year=1999&month=1&day=1&hour=4&minute=50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 4 Author Report Share Posted January 4 16 minutes ago, Tom said: I remember this storm vividly as I was driving home from my NYE celebrations on New Year's day with a hint of initial lake effect snow showers coming off the lake on I-294 heading north towards ORD. Back then, I didn't use any websites to track the storm and only followed the local news channels and TWC. Boy, that storm was something else as it just dumped snow but I remember it was a finer/less fluffy snow character. This was my biggest storm to date in my early years of when I really started paying attn to the weather. Same here. I remember being glued to the weather forecasts on TV in the days before. TWC did their extended outlook once per hour I think, and it stayed pretty consistent all the way up to the storm. I remember them adding a bright white "heavy snow" area to the map at some point, and then you knew that it really had a chance to be big because they rarely did that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 I was living in OKC at the time but went to my in-laws in Missouri. Got stuck for nine days because they lived in country with a lot of hills and dirt and gravel roads. After the storm we had periodic freezing rain on top of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Same here. I remember being glued to the weather forecasts on TV in the days before. TWC did their extended outlook once per hour I think, and it stayed pretty consistent all the way up to the storm. I remember them adding a bright white "heavy snow" area to the map at some point, and then you knew that it really had a chance to be big because they rarely did that. Yes!! The infamous "HEAVY SNOW" with big fat white flakes...gosh, those were great memories...it always brought me goosebumps! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I remember watching TWC on cable at my former In-laws way back in the mid-80s. In the "Look Ahead" segment I was always scanning for the white "Heavy Snow" too . I think it went out 7 or 10 days iirc. More than you would get in the local newspaper back in that era. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Speaking of The Weather Channel. Check this out: https://battaglia.ddns.net/twc/# Type in your zip and enjoy lol 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 48 minutes ago, winterfreak said: Speaking of The Weather Channel. Check this out: https://battaglia.ddns.net/twc/# Type in your zip and enjoy lol AWESOME! Thanks 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 My records show it started snowing around midday on the 1st and ending as light snow in a.m. of the 3rd. I think there was at least one break and not continuous snow. I ended up with approximately 13" total snowfall and 1.40" liquid equivalent! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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