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December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest


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One of the most depressing AFD's from Seattle I have ever read. Seems like they are almost gitty that our snow chances are next to zero. At least we still have January! 

They are wrong.  They will be eating their AFD...

"Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness."

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Looks like Bainbridge's dream of a snowy Christmas in the Midwest have vanished.    He should take a road trip to North Dakota!  

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016122112/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_18.png

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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As Solomon once said "there is nothing new under the sun."

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Looks like Bainbridge's dream of a snowy Christmas in the Midwest have vanished. He should take a road trip to North Dakota!

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016122112/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_18.png

Just like ours!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just like ours!

 

 

At least it will be dry and chilly and probably sunny here.    Better than rain and 50 degrees with a strong south wind!   That is the normal Christmas weather here... but this year the Midwest gets a taste of that crap.  

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The 12z shows 6"+ for me

It may show snow for me, but I am really focused on chances for Jim, Jesse, and the Swamp, so I didn't even look

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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At least it will be dry and chilly and probably sunny here. Better than rain and 50 degrees with a strong south wind! That is the normal Christmas weather here... but this year the Midwest gets a taste of that crap.

Hahahhaha

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Many biblical historians believe strongly he was one of the first weather weenies. Tracked the 528dm line religiously.

He did say there is a season for everything

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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12z GFS keeps with the idea of 2-3 inches falling on Tuesday.

 

 

The weekend snow has high bust potential if the precip is not heavy enough... easily could be all light rain.    And the Tuesday system is a quick transition with a blast of southerly winds during the day.   

 

12Z ECMWF will be interesting.

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And then we have the 12Z Canadian... going even further south than its own 00Z run and we are looking at just 2 days from now.   Unbelievably bad model agreement.

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2016122112/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_10.png

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Every region of the globe is capable of snow except King County

 

 

I am in King County.   In the dead center of King County actually.   I can report that it does snow here.   

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Maybe we can get the +PNA stuff out of the way early...

Looking like a spike is coming! And a far cry from the major tankage it was showing a few days ago. 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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I thought +PNA did not matter? D**n it!!! I am so confused!!!  

From my experience the biggest ingredient you need if you are hoping for cold and snow is a -PNA.

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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The 12Z WRF appears to be cold enough for lowland snow in the Puget Sound region beginning at 4 p.m. on Friday which is great... except it shows no precipitation.     I am guessing that has to be wrong given the operational GFS run.  

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I am in King County.   In the dead center of King County actually.   I can report that it does snow here.   

LOL.. I could not really call you a good representation for the majority of King county... What is your elevation there?  LOL!!

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LOL.. I could not really call you a good representation for the majority of King county... What is your elevation there?  LOL!!

 

I would guess half the county is higher than my location.    So I am about at the mean elevation for the county.  :)

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