Farmboy Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Why run away from the heat? You should camp in the Hanford Reach monument near Kennewick. Temps should be well into the 100s there. Dry as a bone too.That does sound nice, I love having coffee on 70 degree mornings. But I also love high elevation hiking when temps are in the mid 80s... Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 That does sound nice, I love having coffee on 70 degree mornings. But I also love high elevation hiking when temps are in the mid 80s...Stanley, ID often has some of the coldest summer mornings in the lower 48. You could easily see lows in the 30s, maybe even a frost or freeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 12z ensembles tone things down a little. To me a likely progression feels like a hot spell starting next week. Maybe a brush with a ULL the week after that. Then an even hotter spell (perhaps the hottest of the summer if we are lucky) around the last week of July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 12z Euro is out through day 7. Definitely moderates the heat over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 ULL looks poised to drop in by hour 216. Hope to see things keep moving this way. Maybe we can score a mid-month soaker between heat waves. EDIT: Just brushes us at hour 240, but plenty of time for improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Stanley, ID often has some of the coldest summer mornings in the lower 48. You could easily see lows in the 30s, maybe even a frost or freeze.Somehow a low in the 30's while camping in July doesn't seem so bad, maybe because I know it'll be sunny every morning. Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Somehow a low in the 30's while camping in July doesn't seem so bad, maybe because I know it'll be sunny every morning.It will be cold. Hopefully you have a good bag. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 It will be cold. Hopefully you have a good bag.I’m sure TigerWoods could lend him one if he’s out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 12z ensembles tone things down a little. A6DB7B26-8BF6-439B-BCCC-E271466930C6.png To me a likely progression feels like a hot spell starting next week. Maybe a brush with a ULL the week after that. Then an even hotter spell (perhaps the hottest of the summer if we are lucky) around the last week of July.A warm up followed by a cool down followed by a warm up? #crazytalk Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Almost like the Willamette Valley is a much better bet for consistently summery weather than the Puget Sound. There has been an unusual difference the last few weeks though. How hot are the ECMWF surface maps looking for next week? It's not that different, normally. June/July averages only slightly more rain at SEA than PDX. Less than .10" difference. Of course, what Tim has experienced does not reflect the Puget Sound overall, either. SEA, OLM, and BLI have all been well below normal precip for June/July so far...after one of the driest Mays on record. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 I’m sure TigerWoods could lend him one if he’s out. I'll give him a good deal on my Lemon Kush. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 A warm up followed by a cool down followed by a warm up? #crazytalkI was literally envisioning this reply from you as I typed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 I was literally envisioning this reply from you as I typed that.Well when you steal intellectual property... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 It's not that different, normally. June/July averages only slightly more rain at SEA than PDX. Less than .10" difference. Of course, what Tim has experienced does not reflect the Puget Sound overall, either. SEA, OLM, and BLI have all been well below normal precip for June/July so far...after one of the driest Mays on record.Uh oh...fake news! Dewey, Tim calls upon you for more legal counsel. Personally I think another stirring tweet could help solidify the base right about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 It's not that different, normally. June/July averages only slightly more rain at SEA than PDX. Less than .10" difference. Of course, what Tim has experienced does not reflect the Puget Sound overall, either. SEA, OLM, and BLI have all been well below normal precip for June/July so far...after one of the driest Mays on record. This was in reference to clouds... the difference between the Puget Sound region and the Willamette Valley has been more exaggerated than usual lately. I could pull up the afternoon satellite image from the UW archive each day since June 21st to illustrate. But as usual... anywhere immediately next to the Sound (like downtown Seattle and SEA) will have more sun in the afternoon even if 95% of the western WA is cloudy. It is not normal to have 13 out of 17 days be mostly cloudy here in the summer... even in my backyard. Should swing the other way now. The cloudy weather has definitely helped it stay really green and wet... even with a little less rain than normal. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 This was in reference to clouds... the difference between the Puget Sound region and the Willamette Valley has been more exaggerated than usual lately. I could pull up the afternoon satellite image from the UW archive each day since June 21st to illustrate. But as usual... anywhere immediately next to the Sound (like downtown Seattle and SEA) will have more sun in the afternoon even if 95% of the western WA is cloudy. It is not normal to have 13 out of 17 days be mostly cloudy here in the summer... even in my backyard. Should swing the other way now. The cloudy weather has definitely helped it stay really green and wet... even with a little less rain than normal.Nicely executed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Since June 1 we've probably had more marine clouds in the June 1 - present period than any summer to this point since 2012. Now a couple of those June's had decent rainfall, so we missed out on frontal clouds leading it to be sunnier overall than some of those June's. But almost every day we have had marine clouds they break up by 9-10am. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 That one even pulled Andrew over a bit. #swingvoterscouldmakeorbreakthismovement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Since June 1 we've probably had more marine clouds in the June 1 - present period than any summer to this point since 2012. Now a couple of those June's had decent rainfall, so we missed out on frontal clouds leading it to be sunnier overall than some of those June's. But almost every day we have had marine clouds they break up by 9-10am.And just for clarification... that is in your area. Very different here. Many days never really cleared at all. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Sunny now. Might be the start of a trend... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Sunny now. Might be the start of a trend...Lots of clouds moving in up here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 And just for clarification... that is in your area. Very different here. Many days never really cleared at all. Yeah I know. I was just saying the drought hasn't been exaggerated here, but the amount of overall sunshine probably has been. Many days have been cloudy. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Lots of clouds moving in up here.Might be the start of the trend... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Yeah I know. I was just saying the drought hasn't been exaggerated here, but the amount of overall sunshine probably has been. Many days have been cloudy.Maybe up against the foothills where you live. It has been remarkably sunny in the Portland area since late April. I could probably count the number of totally cloudy days on one hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Maybe right up against the foothills where you live. It has been remarkably sunny in the Portland area since late April. I could probably count the number of totally cloudy days on one hand. Most of those days had clouds in Salem too, though several were just against the hills. I think the marine influence has been more prevalent, especially south of Salem. Eugene's temps in June bare this out. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Took some pics of the yard... have not watered any of this at all this year. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Most of those days had clouds in Salem too, though several were just against the hills. I think the marine influence has been more prevalent, especially south of Salem. Eugene's temps in June bare this out. Definitely an unusual number of days so far this late-Spring/summer that saw early SW marine pushes in the valley with the warmest temps centered in the Portland area. Maybe having Eugene walk back a bit from its Fresnofication is a good first step in getting our summer's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Yeah I know. I was just saying the drought hasn't been exaggerated here, but the amount of overall sunshine probably has been. Many days have been cloudy. I have been watching it down there every day as well. Its been WAY more sunny and dry than up here. I have no doubt that its getting pretty bad down there in terms of drought. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Took some pics of the yard... have not watered any of this at all this year. The daisies are just about finishing up their bloom here. Really starting to dry out in the past week. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Took some pics of the yard... have not watered any of this at all this year. The daisies are just about finishing up their bloom here. Really starting to dry out in the past week. The daisie's are still blooming here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Definitely an unusual number of days so far this late-Spring/summer that saw early SW marine pushes in the valley with the warmest temps centered in the Portland area. Maybe having Eugene walk back a bit from its Fresnofication is a good first step in getting our summer's back. July 4th was nice down there with a high in the low 70s and some sprinkles. I think PDX hit mid-80s that day. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 July 4th was nice down there with a high in the low 70s and some sprinkles. I think PDX hit mid-80s that day.Was supposed to be in the 90's... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 July 4th was nice down there with a high in the low 70s and some sprinkles. I think PDX hit mid-80s that day.We were in Salem for the 4th. Went from 84 and high overcast when we left Portland to 67 with sprinkles when we got down there. It was a nice escape. Gorgeous sunset too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 I have been watching it down there every day as well. Its been WAY more sunny and dry than up here. I have no doubt that its getting pretty bad down there in terms of drought. It has consequences. Likely the reason for the frequent algae blooms up at Detroit Lake, which in turn put water restrictions on Salem's drinking water for a couple weeks. Fire danger will be off the charts here in a couple weeks too. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 We were in Salem for the 4th. Went from 84 and high overcast when we left Portland to 67 with sprinkles when we got down there. It was a nice escape. Gorgeous sunset too. Salem is really revitalizing their downtown core and water front. Pictured there is the Peter Courtney (D-Salem) Bridge. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Most of those days had clouds in Salem too, though several were just against the hills. I think the marine influence has been more prevalent, especially south of Salem. Eugene's temps in June bare this out.Yeah the west and south valley from basically Dallas, Monmouth, Corvallis, down to Eugene-Springfield has been sunny almost every day. I do sometimes see the clouds banked up against the cascade foothills but Ankeny Hill blocks most of that from my vantage point. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Salem is really revitalizing their downtown core and water front. Pictured there is the Peter Courtney (D-Salem) Bridge.Now if they could just manage that water issue... Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 GFS is still looking much hotter than the Euro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Took some pics of the yard... have not watered any of this at all this year. Did a landscaper do the design for the backyard? Looks beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Did a landscaper do the design for the backyard? Looks beautiful We do it all ourselves... labor of love. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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