Polite Politics

[SnarkyGoblin]

2 hours ago, Stormy said:

Maybe this sealed Nikki's fate as well. 

 

Ouch, Nikki busted! I bet she was fuming later 

Saw this last week, but good enough to still share. 

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1726685340487098555?s=20

 

https://x.com/CharlieJamieVed/status/1726827704845218135?s=20

 

Lol. A hat given to someone during a campaign event!

I hope more reasonable people on here who were trump fans before see how ridiculous the entire cult is now.  And I also hope they realize not a lot has changed since 2016.

Trump: literally can do nothing wrong

Anyone else: swag = bad, unethical candidate

You can't make this stuff up.

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Why @SnarkyGoblin is stupid 

1. See theweatherforums.com for all you need to know 

You can do better.

[Anti Marine Layer]

1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

You can do better.

You were the only one who liked the post by @Eugene-5SW that America is exceptionally horrible. The leftist educators have done their job to make you hate America, once called the free world and the land of opportunity. Yes I know those phrases offend you.

Trans people are in PANIC that they may lose their rights to play on teams or use restrooms than match their imagination of what gender they are rather than their biological sex. Christian nationalism, they say. Such rights did not even exist 20 years ago. Were they really such miserable people up until then?

Speaker Johnson is a "threat to America", but he's no more of a Christian than Abraham Lincoln was. 

The same ones who complain theocracy have no problem creating a progressive-ocracy where hard work is punished, inclusion means exclusion of conservatives, capitalism is considered to be unfair and racist, secular humanism is the official religion, and dissenters are humiliated, fired from their jobs or even incarcerated. That would not affect you however. In Orwell's novel, Big Brother had plenty of supporters.

 

[roadtonowhere08]

3 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

And they pile on Bernie Sanders regularly, too!

Oh, wait… they don’t. Almost as if being a Jew is irrelevant and the real issue is the individual’s politics.

Common sense is not as common as it should be.

[SnarkyGoblin]

21 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

You were the only one who liked the post by @Eugene-5SW that America is exceptionally horrible. The leftist educators have done their job to make you hate America, once called the free world and the land of opportunity. Yes I know those phrases offend you.

Trans people are in PANIC that they may lose their rights to play on teams or use restrooms than match their imagination of what gender they are rather than their biological sex. Christian nationalism, they say. Such rights did not even exist 20 years ago. Were they really such miserable people up until then?

Speaker Johnson is a "threat to America", but he's no more of a Christian than Abraham Lincoln was. 

The same ones who complain theocracy have no problem creating a progressive-ocracy where hard work is punished, inclusion means exclusion of conservatives, capitalism is considered to be unfair and racist, secular humanism is the official religion, and dissenters are humiliated, fired from their jobs or even incarcerated. That would not affect you however. In Orwell's novel, Big Brother had plenty of supporters.

 

I think you have a very wrong idea of who you think I and more than half the country is.

That'll happen when your mind is diseased by the internet.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

You were the only one who liked the post by @Eugene-5SW that America is exceptionally horrible. The leftist educators have done their job to make you hate America, once called the free world and the land of opportunity. Yes I know those phrases offend you.

Regarding that post, context matters.

[SnarkyGoblin]

I think our in house Marx hater would ironically be pretty happy living in Russia.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-lgbtq-nightclub-raids-crackdown-33e1b9a0110bf22dc2ebc7c42efe6335

[Andie]

5 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Okay, that is a bit extreme

James Carville attacks Speaker Mike Johnson, says he's a 'bigger threat' to US than 'al-Qaeda' (msn.com)

hyperbole /hī-pûr′bə-lē/noun

1. A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.
2. In rhetoric, an obvious exaggeration; an extravagant statement or assertion not intended to be understood literally
3. James Carvlle-    

[Iceresistance]

52 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

I think our in house Marx hater would ironically be pretty happy living in Russia.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-lgbtq-nightclub-raids-crackdown-33e1b9a0110bf22dc2ebc7c42efe6335

I doubt it if he's against the Russian invasion like me

[Anti Marine Layer]

If you’re afraid the far-left wants to abolish the nuclear family, Mary wants you to know you’re right.

 

 

Mary’s talk started with Vivek Ramaswamy endorsing the nuclear family as the greatest form of government known to mankind.

The audience booed at this.

Mary explains heterosexual, cisgender couples with children are on the far right.

And all of this is because of the white supremacist invention: the gender binary.

Mary explains that, prior to colonization (which created the gender binary), the world had more than two genders and was led by trans and non-binary individuals.

And this was all made possible because of abortion.

I’m not making any of this up, she actually said all of this in less than two minutes

 

 

[Iceresistance]

@Anti Marine LayerNot facepalming at you, but at her

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Picked up a book at the thrift store today! 

[Iceresistance]

Well, it can be safely said that the Coronavirus is the world's first Trillion Dollar Disaster...

The COVID-19 Pandemic and the $16 Trillion Virus - PMC (nih.gov)

[Anti Marine Layer]

3 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

I think our in house Marx hater would ironically be pretty happy living in Russia.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-lgbtq-nightclub-raids-crackdown-33e1b9a0110bf22dc2ebc7c42efe6335

You could also go to Gaza or any society with Muslims in power and see how they treat LGBTQ people there. Yet we have people on the left cheering on the Hamas terrorists. The war is Israel vs Hamas, not even Israel vs Palestine. People all over the world send food and resources over there and Hamas takes it all for themselves. They are the main oppressors of the Palestinians. 

I don't approve what Putin is doing in Russia either. LGBQT people should not be persecuted, but today they are returning the favor and persecuting Christians. There's no need for them to go to Christian bakeries and call people bigots because of their religious convictions. There's also no need to teach preschoolers that some girls are really boys and vice versa. You could simply teach that some people have gender dysphoria, which makes them feel like they were born in the wrong body and not to make fun of them.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

5 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

I think you have a very wrong idea of who you think I and more than half the country is.

That'll happen when your mind is diseased by the internet.

You also have a very wrong idea of who half the country is because they voted for Trump. 

You can lookup Karlyn Borysenko. She was also a Democrat who thought half the country were racists and fascists because they voted for Trump. Then she went to an actual Trump rally and found lots of nice people there who were ashamed of Trump's stupid behavior but still thought he was a better choice than Biden or Hillary. She also noticed that at Democrat rallies, all they do is complain about racism and how bad it is to live in America.

If you read the holy texts of Robin DeAngelo and Ibram X Kendi, you'll see that I'm not making this stuff up. They truly believe America will be systemically racist until we completely abolish capitalism. There's also plenty of evidence that some public schools are teaching kids that the gender binary is a white supremacist concept, like in the video I posted above.

 

 

[Deweydog]

2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Picked up a book at the thrift store today! 

Picked this one up recently. It’s a game changer.

[roadtonowhere08]

18 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Why leftists and leftism are stupid 

1. The equality and freedom they claim to be fighting for is only for other leftists. Take Mao's "democratic dictatorship" to be the prime example of this.

2. They complain that European settlers introduced ideas such as the gender binary and civilization to society. 

3. They hate a culture dominated by offensive Judeo-Christian values where people are expected to follow rules because true freedom to them depends not on individual responsibility, but on hedonism and anything goes.

4. A large number of them are dumb people who are jealous that people who are smarter or work harder get ahead. Since they are the foolish ones who fall behind in a meritocracy, they want everything to be stolen from others and given to them so that they don't have to work hard and everyone ends up in the same place. 

5. They don't realize that inequality creates competition and competition leads to innovation.

Life is not fair. Learn to accept it. Even Bill Gates used to say that before the woke pandemic began to destroy America and the world and make it more unfair than it already is.

 

Cool.  Now do one for the far-right.

[Andie]

I have to agree generally with Bill Gates on the lack of fairness.   
when I co-owned and operated my processing plant I was not liked by a few of the employees.   
Of course they weren’t there in the hungry years.  Years of scrimping and barely getting by.  Doing work I shouldn’t have and paying the price today with inoperable back problems.  But yeah, hate the owners Those lazy b’s.  

Yeah, Life isn’t fair. But people seldom look below the surface.  Some solutions exist.  They’re both without and within. And we need to encourage both.  

[SnarkyGoblin]

12 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

u also have a very wrong idea of who half the country is because they voted for Trump.

You constantly (and I mean constantly) paint hugely broad strokes about the left.  And I understand doing that occasionally, but it's clear you've had zero interaction with "the left" and the only stuff you know about "the left" is heavily filtered by the extreme news sites you visit.

12 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

If you read the holy texts of Robin DeAngelo and Ibram X Kendi, you'll see that I'm not making this stuff up. They truly believe America will be systemically racist until we completely abolish capitalism. There's also plenty of evidence that some public schools are teaching kids that the gender binary is a white supremacist concept, like in the video I posted above.

Did you know I didn't know who Ibram Kendi was until you posted something about him?  And I don't know who robin DeAngelo is.  And I frankly don't care about either of them.

I've clicked on enough of your links. I've seen circular references, flat out provable lies and more recently obvious white supremacist websites masked as a "news" site.

I'll read what *you* write provided it's your words and not super long.  But you've lost any credibility with the sh*t you try to get us to read or watch 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Not surprising...

https://dnyuz.com/2023/12/03/israeli-minister-michelle-obama-has-refused-to-condemn-october-7-attack-on-israeli-women-silence/

[SilverFallsAndrew]

11 hours ago, Deweydog said:

Picked this one up recently. It’s a game changer.

But the notes the previous reader wrote in the margins... Absolute GOLD!

[SnarkyGoblin]

6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Not surprising...

https://dnyuz.com/2023/12/03/israeli-minister-michelle-obama-has-refused-to-condemn-october-7-attack-on-israeli-women-silence/

Not surprising you would post an article like that.

Quote

Golan has attracted international attention for her vocal support of Donald Trump,^[5][6] and incendiary remarks about African immigration to Israel.^[1][7] When she was accused of racism at protest rallies in her early days as an activist, she was quoted as saying: “If I’m racist in order to preserve my life, I'm proud to be racist.”^[16]

Israeli reporter Uri Misgav points out that Golan avoided military and national service by declaring that she was religious, but stated in a 2012 interview that “I am not religious.”

In 2023, a group of former Israeli ambassadors said they were “shocked” by the appointment of Golan as Israel's new women's advancement minister, saying that “Golan’s appointment is outrageous as she is a racist and divisive figure, which is the exact opposite from what Israel needs in such a critical place.”^[1]

She can f*ck right off 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, SnarkyGoblin said:

Not surprising you would post an article like that.

She can f*ck right off 

Has Michelle Obama condemned Hamas attacks against Israeli women? That's the issue here.

[Andie]

17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Has Michelle Obama condemned Hamas attacks against Israeli women? That's the issue here.

Has any public woman in leadership condemned them? 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Recent Morning Consult poll found the following favorability among REPUBLICANS:

Trump: 75%

DeSantis: 67%

Vivek: 51%

Haley: 49%

Christie: 25%

If Trump dropped out tomorrow DeSantis would win the Republican nomination going away.

[SnarkyGoblin]

30 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Recent Morning Consult poll found the following favorability among REPUBLICANS:

Trump: 75%

DeSantis: 67%

Vivek: 51%

Haley: 49%

Christie: 25%

If Trump dropped out tomorrow DeSantis would win the Republican nomination going away.

Man that desantis one is hard to believe.  Guessing a lot of the trumpy folks are the desantis folks.

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Has Michelle Obama condemned Hamas attacks against Israeli women? That's the issue here.

Has Laura bush? Has Melania?  Has Jill?

A self proclaimed racist tries to call out the only black first lady and you eat it up.

As I said - not surprising you posted the article.

[Andie]

In truth there should be an outcry from women's groups and leaderships of both genders.  
Women suffered terribly in wars past not of their making. Children as well. Everyone in power is silent through this. Even large organizations that champion women and children.  
The men make war, the innocent suffer. 
Nothing changes.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

18 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

I think our in house Marx hater would ironically be pretty happy living in Russia.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-lgbtq-nightclub-raids-crackdown-33e1b9a0110bf22dc2ebc7c42efe6335

All the seeing of Marxists and Communists behind every tree and in every dark closet reminds me a heck of a lot of what many Nazi supporters said in the Weimar Republic. Or what many Mussolini supporters said in Italy. Or Franco supporters in Spain, Salazar supporters in Portugal, supporters of the coup against Goulart in Brazil, supporters of the coup against Arbenz in Guatemala, Pinochet supporters in Chile, and so on. It is a very long list.

It is, in other words, precisely the sort of stuff that the most brutal right-wing authoritarianism is based on.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

38 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Has Laura bush? Has Melania?  Has Jill?

A self proclaimed racist tries to call out the only black first lady and you eat it up.

As I said - not surprising you posted the article.

Sure, did you not see what book I am reading? Right now, as we speak I am practicing self interrogation and doing THE WORK.  

[Andie]

JUST IN - American warship and multiple commercial vessels have come under attack in the Red Sea — Pentagon

Biden’s going to get his war- as all Presidents desire to go down in history.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-pentagon-says-a-us-warship-and-multiple-commercial-ships-have-come-under-attack-in-the-red-sea/ar-AA1kVrjc

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Oliver Stone on Bill Maher's Club Random is fantastic. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Man that desantis one is hard to believe.  Guessing a lot of the trumpy folks are the desantis folks.

I would be a stronger supporter of DeSantis if I thought he had a chance, would definitely take him over Haley. I like Vivek too, but he is not ready. Greg Abbot would be another awesome choice. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

6 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

You constantly (and I mean constantly) paint hugely broad strokes about the left.  And I understand doing that occasionally, but it's clear you've had zero interaction with "the left" and the only stuff you know about "the left" is heavily filtered by the extreme news sites you visit.

Did you know I didn't know who Ibram Kendi was until you posted something about him?  And I don't know who robin DeAngelo is.  And I frankly don't care about either of them.

I've clicked on enough of your links. I've seen circular references, flat out provable lies and more recently obvious white supremacist websites masked as a "news" site.

I'll read what *you* write provided it's your words and not super long.  But you've lost any credibility with the sh*t you try to get us to read or watch 

Ok then, do you think the quote below is fake?

Do you think believing in American exceptionalism makes somebody a white supremacist? Do you think requiring voter ID is racist? LA Times even said Larry Elder is the "Black face of white supremacy".

Paul Kengor is a college professor who believes critical race theory is rooted in Marxism as well. Even Wikipedia calls Hebert Marcuse, one of the people who created CRT a Western Marxist.

Do you even know what meritocracy means, and if so, do you think it's racist as some college professors say?

Yet, you won't even believe people like Xi VanFleet who actually lived under communism and note the similarities of what the left is teaching people in the schools. It's a slow process, or in their own words "a slow march through the institutions"

Here's a basic summary.

You may think the person who posted this is another right-wing nutjob like you think I am, but she's actually a Democrat and a psychologist who used to be in DEI and then researched everything that the DEI industry is teaching. She had exactly the same opinion about conservatives calling everyone Marxists or communists as you and @Rubus Leucodermis before doing her research.

https://karlyn.substack.com/p/woke-101-the-ultimate-cheat-sheet

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The Bourgeois is the capitalist class - the private property owners, the private business owners, the landlords. They are the oppressors, the owners of the power structure.

The Proletariat is the worker class - the renters, the workers. They are the oppressed within the power structure.

Capitalism is defined as private property ownership.

Capitalism created slavery because people were considered private property.

Slavery created systemic racism, a society that produced unequal outcomes and disparities based on race.

The system that created those disparities is capitalism because capitalism created systemic racism.

In order to fix the disparities caused by systemic racism and create a society where everyone is equal, we must implement equity.

Equity means that all disparities in outcome are reduced to zero, and resources are distributed unevenly based on need.

“From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.” - Karl Marx

A capitalist society cannot achieve equity because a capitalist society will always lead to unequal outcomes because it is based on individualism and meritocracy.

You cannot have a society with individualism and meritocracy without having capitalism, and you cannot have a capitalist society without individualism and meritocracy.

An equitable society eliminates individualism and meritocracy because it is a collective society where people are given resources based on group affiliation.

In an equitable society, no one is different. Everyone is the same. They are the collective.

Capitalism leads to different outcomes. Equity leads to sameness.

Equity abolishes systemic racism.

Once we have equity, we will have fixed racism at the systemic level (the system being capitalism).

We cannot abolish systemic racism without implementing a society built on equity.

We cannot implement a society built on equity without abolishing individualism and meritocracy.

Individualism and meritocracy will be abolished when capitalism is abolished.

Therefore, in order to abolish systemic racism, we must abolish capitalism.

In order to abolish capitalism, we must abolish private property ownership.

Whiteness means the private property owner.

Therefore, whiteness means capitalism.

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[Iceresistance]

13 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Ok then, do you think the quote below is fake?

Do you think believing in American exceptionalism makes somebody a white supremacist? Do you think requiring voter ID is racist? LA Times even said Larry Elder is the "Black face of white supremacy".

Paul Kengor is a college professor who believes critical race theory is rooted in Marxism as well. Even Wikipedia calls Hebert Marcuse, one of the people who created CRT a Western Marxist.

Do you even know what meritocracy means, and if so, do you think it's racist as some college professors say?

Yet, you won't even believe people who actually lived under communism and note the similarities of what the left is teaching people in the schools. It's a slow process, or in their own words "a slow march through the institutions"

Here's a basic summary.

You may think the person who posted this is another right-wing nutjob like you think I am, but she's actually a Democrat and a psychologist who used to be in DEI and then researched everything that the DEI industry is teaching. She had exactly the same opinion about conservatives calling everyone Marxists or communists as you and @Rubus Leucodermis before doing her research.

https://karlyn.substack.com/p/woke-101-the-ultimate-cheat-sheet

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The Bourgeois is the capitalist class - the private property owners, the private business owners, the landlords. They are the oppressors, the owners of the power structure.

The Proletariat is the worker class - the renters, the workers. They are the oppressed within the power structure.

Capitalism is defined as private property ownership.

Capitalism created slavery because people were considered private property.

Slavery created systemic racism, a society that produced unequal outcomes and disparities based on race.

The system that created those disparities is capitalism because capitalism created systemic racism.

In order to fix the disparities caused by systemic racism and create a society where everyone is equal, we must implement equity.

Equity means that all disparities in outcome are reduced to zero, and resources are distributed unevenly based on need.

“From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.” - Karl Marx

A capitalist society cannot achieve equity because a capitalist society will always lead to unequal outcomes because it is based on individualism and meritocracy.

You cannot have a society with individualism and meritocracy without having capitalism, and you cannot have a capitalist society without individualism and meritocracy.

An equitable society eliminates individualism and meritocracy because it is a collective society where people are given resources based on group affiliation.

In an equitable society, no one is different. Everyone is the same. They are the collective.

Capitalism leads to different outcomes. Equity leads to sameness.

Equity abolishes systemic racism.

Once we have equity, we will have fixed racism at the systemic level (the system being capitalism).

We cannot abolish systemic racism without implementing a society built on equity.

We cannot implement a society built on equity without abolishing individualism and meritocracy.

Individualism and meritocracy will be abolished when capitalism is abolished.

Therefore, in order to abolish systemic racism, we must abolish capitalism.

In order to abolish capitalism, we must abolish private property ownership.

Whiteness means the private property owner.

Therefore, whiteness means capitalism.

.

 

 

 

 

 

TL:DR

They want to wipe out Capitalism in the name of equity.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, Iceresistance said:

TL:DR

They want to wipe out Capitalism in the name of equity.

That’s pretty much the summary of any sort of left-wing anti-capitalism.

[Andie]

On 12/2/2023 at 12:39 PM, Iceresistance said:

Okay, that is a bit extreme

James Carville attacks Speaker Mike Johnson, says he's a 'bigger threat' to US than 'al-Qaeda' (msn.com)

Hyperbolic to say the least.  

[SnarkyGoblin]

4 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Ok then, do you think the quote below is fake?

Do you think believing in American exceptionalism makes somebody a white supremacist? Do you think requiring voter ID is racist? LA Times even said Larry Elder is the "Black face of white supremacy".

Paul Kengor is a college professor who believes critical race theory is rooted in Marxism as well. Even Wikipedia calls Hebert Marcuse, one of the people who created CRT a Western Marxist.

Do you even know what meritocracy means, and if so, do you think it's racist as some college professors say?

Yet, you won't even believe people like Xi VanFleet who actually lived under communism and note the similarities of what the left is teaching people in the schools. It's a slow process, or in their own words "a slow march through the institutions"

Here's a basic summary.

You may think the person who posted this is another right-wing nutjob like you think I am, but she's actually a Democrat and a psychologist who used to be in DEI and then researched everything that the DEI industry is teaching. She had exactly the same opinion about conservatives calling everyone Marxists or communists as you and @Rubus Leucodermis before doing her research.

https://karlyn.substack.com/p/woke-101-the-ultimate-cheat-sheet

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Bourgeois is the capitalist class - the private property owners, the private business owners, the landlords. They are the oppressors, the owners of the power structure.

The Proletariat is the worker class - the renters, the workers. They are the oppressed within the power structure.

Capitalism is defined as private property ownership.

Capitalism created slavery because people were considered private property.

Slavery created systemic racism, a society that produced unequal outcomes and disparities based on race.

The system that created those disparities is capitalism because capitalism created systemic racism.

In order to fix the disparities caused by systemic racism and create a society where everyone is equal, we must implement equity.

Equity means that all disparities in outcome are reduced to zero, and resources are distributed unevenly based on need.

“From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.” - Karl Marx

A capitalist society cannot achieve equity because a capitalist society will always lead to unequal outcomes because it is based on individualism and meritocracy.

You cannot have a society with individualism and meritocracy without having capitalism, and you cannot have a capitalist society without individualism and meritocracy.

An equitable society eliminates individualism and meritocracy because it is a collective society where people are given resources based on group affiliation.

In an equitable society, no one is different. Everyone is the same. They are the collective.

Capitalism leads to different outcomes. Equity leads to sameness.

Equity abolishes systemic racism.

Once we have equity, we will have fixed racism at the systemic level (the system being capitalism).

We cannot abolish systemic racism without implementing a society built on equity.

We cannot implement a society built on equity without abolishing individualism and meritocracy.

Individualism and meritocracy will be abolished when capitalism is abolished.

Therefore, in order to abolish systemic racism, we must abolish capitalism.

In order to abolish capitalism, we must abolish private property ownership.

Whiteness means the private property owner.

Therefore, whiteness means capitalism.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Do you think your closest 10 Democrat neighbors care anything about what you wrote here?  Or frankly have any clue what the eff you are talking about?

[Iceresistance]

2 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Do you think your closest 10 Democrat neighbors care anything about what you wrote here?  Or frankly have any clue what the eff you are talking about?

Or because that is the bane of their existence?

(Unless they are moderates and don't want to lose the Capitalism)

[SnarkyGoblin]

This is what you sound like, @Anti Marine Layer

The bumper sticker "the final variant is called communism" is really on point.