Polite Politics

[hawkstwelve]

29 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

How is Haley doing in the debate?

She took a lot of shots from everyone else, as expected with her surging and momentum in the polls. I think some might have landed a little blow here and there but she held up pretty well for the most part. 

Both my wife and I are not Christie fans but surprisingly, we both thought he had a really strong night. It doesnt really matter for him but we still came across impressed. Vivek was insanely annoying and obnoxious. I can't believe I thought about supporting him at one point. Ron did alright but he just comes across so phony and rehearsed. If I have to hear "I'll throw it in the trash bin" or "There'll be a new sheriff in town" one more time I think I might lose it.

Overall, while there were some slightly more pointed attacks at Trump, his lack of being there once again shielded him from any lasting blow. So we march on to his almost inevitable nomination in the hopes we have some miracle happen between now and then.

[roadtonowhere08]

“Why am I the only person on the stage at least who can say that January 6 now does look like it was an inside job?” - Vivek Ramaswampy

That's all that needs to be said.

[SnarkyGoblin]

4 hours ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

“Why am I the only person on the stage at least who can say that January 6 now does look like it was an inside job?” - Vivek Ramaswampy

That's all that needs to be said.

And the guy is popular enough to be on stage at the debate!

Also says enough where the Republican party is right now 

[Iceresistance]

I once saw this on a comments section from a news article.

[SnarkyGoblin]

Our leadership in govt, ladies and gents.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-johnson-moses-christian-nationalist-gala-1234918565/amp/

And as everyone can read in this particular thread, this stuff trickles down.

[Iceresistance]

Take that CNN!

CNN Guest Catches Hosts Selectively Editing Trump Clip to Fit Agenda (msn.com)

[Deweydog]

4 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

I once saw this on a comments section from a news article.

Dude that is CRAZY.

Never seen this kind of banter on a comment thingy, although I did see one one time where someone was like “blah blah blah blah blah” and then someone else said “yeah, blah blah blah blah blah!” I thought THAT was bad…

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Our leadership in govt, ladies and gents.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-johnson-moses-christian-nationalist-gala-1234918565/amp/

And as everyone can read in this particular thread, this stuff trickles down.

Mike Johnson is your new straw man. 

[Iceresistance]

Seriously?? They want to track down and harass anyone who made the signature for certain ballots in Washington DC!?

Source: Washington Democrats set up hotline to report ballot signature efforts (msn.com)

[roadtonowhere08]

Has Iceresistance officially become an AI bot?

[Iceresistance]

3 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Has Iceresistance officially become an AI bot?

Since when!? I don't have AI software at all!

(It could be the account being hacked, but I haven't been hacked, yet)

[Iceresistance]

56 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Dude that is CRAZY.

Never seen this kind of banter on a comment thingy, although I did see one one time where someone was like “blah blah blah blah blah” and then someone else said “yeah, blah blah blah blah blah!” I thought THAT was bad…

Another unhinged comment I found, and I think he typed too fast for "same"

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Van Jones is "literally shaking" when he thinks about VIVEK!

https://thehill.com/elections/4348357-van-jones-ramaswamy-remarks-that-guy-is-dangerous/

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The left is so cynical. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/12/college-football-dr-pepper-tuition-giveaway/676269/

[SnarkyGoblin]

It's gonna get very interesting.

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In the next few months, as the weather warms in Washington, something remarkable could happen in the city’s federal courthouse: Donald J. Trump could become the first former president in U.S. history to sit through a trial as a criminal defendant.

The trial, based on charges that Mr. Trump conspired to overturn the 2020 election, is scheduled to start in early March. And while the date could change, it is likely that a jury will sit in judgment of Mr. Trump before the 2024 election — perhaps even before the Republican Party meets in Milwaukee in July for its nominating convention.

Mr. Trump is the front-runner for the Republican nomination and is facing 91 felony charges in four separate cases. Putting him on trial either before the convention or during the general election would potentially lead to a series of events that have never been seen before in the annals of American law and politics.

It would almost certainly fuse Mr. Trump’s role as a criminal defendant with his role as a presidential candidate. It would transform the steps of the federal courthouse into a site for daily impromptu campaign rallies. And it would place the legal case and the race for the White House on a direct collision course, each one increasingly capable of shaping the other.

Trump on Trial: The Looming Legal and Political Collision https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/07/us/politics/trump-trial-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE0.ebm9.7h1qvfqsmMbK&smid=nytcore-android-share

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, SnarkyGoblin said:

It's gonna get very interesting.

Trump on Trial: The Looming Legal and Political Collision https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/07/us/politics/trump-trial-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE0.ebm9.7h1qvfqsmMbK&smid=nytcore-android-share

What his political enemies are doing to President Trump is so wrong. People will galvanize behind him. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

The New Society is a secular, humanistic, politically correct, semi-Marxist, morally relative culture with the following characteristics.

1. There is no absolute and ultimate God who is the source of right and wrong. Therefore, they answer to no one.
2. Christianity promotes oppression, bigotry, and intolerance. It must be resisted and even controlled.
3. Morality evolves with the increasingly secularized society’s needs and desires. Moral absolutes are non-existent – except those promoting LGBTQ.
4. LGBTQ rights are above the right of the free expression of a person’s religious convictions – even though they are guaranteed in the Constitution.
5. Abortion rights must be preserved. Dissenters are ridiculed and mocked as oppressors of women.
6. You have the right not to be offended. If you are, you have the right to silence the offenders, especially when it comes to their offensive, conservative speech.
7. Politically correct speech is automatically superior to conservative speech.
8. Victims are everywhere in the homosexual community, blacks, minorities, illegal aliens, women, etc., and the oppressors are those in the status quo.
9. The weaponization of racism is used to shame white-people, stop oppression, and silence the majority.
10. White people are automatically guilty of racism and continue to benefit from white supremacy.
11. The media cultivate division, hatred, and resentment to gain ratings, push their leftist agenda, and further condition people to accept socialism.
12. Big Tech and the mainstream media censor conservatives but allow left-spun misinformation to flourish.
13. Doublespeak frames acceptable thinking and dialogue. Tolerance is really suppressed speech. Equality is discrimination against conservatives. Freedom is submission to the increasing control of the government.
14. Free market capitalism has led to the unequal distribution of wealth and power that has resulted in the oppression of the lower classes.
15. Socialism is the solution to our current problems since, they say, it promotes the equal distribution of resources and opportunity for all.
16. Socialist propaganda is woven into schools, tv, and the media to shape the youth’s thought to accept more big government and reject constitutional principles.
17. Guns lead to violence. Therefore, access to them must be restricted and controlled if not completely denied.

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

FAR RIGHT WEBSITE ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/about

Gays Against Groomers is a 501(c)4 nonprofit organization of gay people and others within the community who oppose the recent trend of indoctrinating, sexualizing and medicalizing children under the guise of “LGBTQIA+”
Our community that once preached love and acceptance of others has been hijacked by radical activists who are now pushing extreme concepts onto society, specifically targeting children in recent years.

The overwhelming majority of gay people are against what the community has transformed into, and we do not accept the political movement pushing their agenda in our name. Gays Against Groomers directly opposes the sexualization and indoctrination of children. This includes drag queen story hours, drag shows involving children, the transitioning and medicalization of minors, and gender theory being taught in the classroom.

The activists, backed by school boards, government, woke media, and corporations, have been speaking on our behalf for too long. When fighting for equality, our goal was to successfully integrate ourselves into society, but now these radicals aim to restructure it entirely in order to accommodate a fringe minority, as well as seek to indoctrinate children into their ideology. We’re saying NO.  

There are millions of gays within the community that want nothing to do with this Alphabet religion and join the fight with parents and concerned people everywhere to protect children. We also aim to return sanity and reclaim the community we once called our own. 

The gay community is not a monolith. Those pushing this agenda do not represent or speak for us all, nor do we want to be associated with them in any way. What we are witnessing is mass scale child abuse being perpetrated on an entire generation, and we will no longer sit by and watch it happen. It is going to take those of us from within the community to finally put an end to this insanity, and that's exactly what we're going to do.

[SnarkyGoblin]

A follow-up to an article I shared earlier.  "Solutions" to Trump - talks quite a bit about gop primary strategy.

https://wapo.st/3GDyIKp

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The first step is to consolidate all the anti-Trump forces in the Republican Party behind a single candidate, right now. It is obvious that candidate should be Nikki Haley and not because she’s pro-Ukraine but because she is clearly the most capable politician among the remaining candidates and the performer with the best chance, however slim, of challenging Trump. All the money and the endorsements should shift to her as quickly as possible. Yes, Ron DeSantis is likely too selfish and ambitious to drop out of the race, but if everyone else does and the remaining money and support all flow to Haley, he will quickly become irrelevant.

It won’t be enough, however, to rally the forces behind Haley. Even if she were to get every vote that’s now spread among the other non-Trump candidates (and she won’t), it would not come close to being enough to challenge Trump. Until now, she has been gathering support at the expense of other non-Trump candidates. To make a serious run for the nomination, she will also have to cut into the more than 50 percent of the party that now seems solidly behind Trump.

 

[roadtonowhere08]

4 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

Since when!? I don't have AI software at all!

(It could be the account being hacked, but I haven't been hacked, yet)

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Apparently Haley thinks gender transition for kids is okay. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

10 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Our leadership in govt, ladies and gents.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-johnson-moses-christian-nationalist-gala-1234918565/amp/

And as everyone can read in this particular thread, this stuff trickles down.

You forgot to include nonbinaries. Bob Iger is ashamed of you.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Haley also supports a forever war in Ukraine. Vivek smoked her on Ukraine. She’s such a fraud. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Pretty amazing what makes someone "far right" or "Christian nationalist" today according to the Satanic nationalist radical left.

1. Believing that homosexuality is immoral (which was the common view of most people worldwide 25 years ago)

2. Saying that abortion is immoral

3. Believing in rights that are endowed by our Creator rather than coming from our government

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Pretty amazing what makes someone "far right" or "Christian nationalist" today according to the Satanic nationalist radical left.

1. Believing that homosexuality is immoral (which was the common view of most people worldwide 25 years ago)

2. Saying that abortion is immoral

3. Believing in rights that are endowed by our Creator rather than coming from our government

 

Abortion is the democrats official sacrament.

[Anti Marine Layer]

24 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

What about me?

[roadtonowhere08]

48 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

What about me?

Nah, you're just nuts 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Some atheists say transing children, puberty blocking and abortion are wrong. I wonder if that makes them atheist nationalists if they get into government. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

@SnarkyGoblin never adapted my suggested avatar.

Last time I posted it, he changed from einsteinjr to SnarkyGoblin.

[SnarkyGoblin]

18 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Mike Johnson is your new straw man. 

So Mike Johnson didn't say those things when he thought he wasn't being recorded...?

Please clarify.

[SnarkyGoblin]

11 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Some atheists say transing children, puberty blocking and abortion are wrong. I wonder if that makes them atheist nationalists if they get into government. 

seems one of the articles I posted really got to you.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

7 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

So Mike Johnson didn't say those things when he thought he wasn't being recorded...?

Please clarify.

The constant harping on the fake threat of Christian nationalism. We already live in a theocracy, one which you strongly endorse. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

24 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The constant harping on the fake threat of Christian nationalism. We already live in a theocracy, one which you strongly endorse. 

Yep.

America Is Fast Becoming a Woke Theocracy

[Iceresistance]

21 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Yep.

America Is Fast Becoming a Woke Theocracy

And before we know it, the Constitution is completely thrown out and replaced with a more communist government. This is something the Soviets have been wanting for many decades, but they collapsed before they could see it happening.

 

Could this become a rule by Woke cult members brainwashing minors to become part of them?

[Iceresistance]

Stripping Women's rights (majority group) in favor of Transgenders minority groups??

President Of LGBTQ Advocate Group Says Women Should ‘Learn To Lose Gracefully’ To Trans Competitors (msn.com)

[SnarkyGoblin]

Lol.  I wonder what the the people who read this thread but never posts think of the folks on here.

People saying white supremacy and Christian nationalusn doesn't exist.  The woke brainwashing everyone.  It's ok for homosexuality to be demonized in the name of your religion.  Victims of rape should be destroyed.

Quite the bunch.

[Anti Marine Layer]

15 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Lol.  I wonder what the the people who read this thread but never posts think of the folks on here.

People saying white supremacy and Christian nationalusn doesn't exist.  The woke brainwashing everyone.  It's ok for homosexuality to be demonized in the name of your religion.  Victims of rape should be destroyed.

Quite the bunch.

They do exist (e.g. what happened in Charlottesviile), but anything the Satanic left dislikes they call white supremacy and Christian nationalism because after all "Christianity is a white man's religion". For example, the majority of the world (religious and non-religious) used to think homosexuality was immoral not long ago. The same people who want you to be eliminated from society if you don't believe there are more than 2 genders are also now trying to push polygamy and even bestiality as legal forms of marriage.

The left would still hate America even if we had no slavery in our history because the motto "In God we Trust" gives them nightmares and chills of a far-right fascist hellhole.

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

48 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Lol.  I wonder what the the people who read this thread but never posts think of the folks on here.

People saying white supremacy and Christian nationalusn doesn't exist.  The woke brainwashing everyone.  It's ok for homosexuality to be demonized in the name of your religion.  Victims of rape should be destroyed.

Quite the bunch.

New poll out today by Emerson showing Trump up 4%. Add in all the 3rd party candidates and the lead goes to 6%. But go ahead and keep living in your bubble. Here is some programing to make you even more afraid. 

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Christian nationalism (according to the left)

Not Buddhist nationalism (according to the left)

[Anti Marine Layer]

Also the radical left particularly hates commandments 8 and 10 because they imply that private property exists and therefore inequality (with exceptions for "stolen land", which is the only thing you're allowed to own)

They hate the 5th one because they want people to be educated by the government and honor them and abolish the nuclear family since parents that don't adhere to their doctrines are domestic terrorists committing child abuse.