OKwx2k4 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Yes he did.No he wasn't.Sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 People weren't marching because of rights that have been taken away already. People were marching for what Trump has said he is going to do when he is president and what the Repubs are planning on doing already:Taking away Planned ParenthoodTaking away money for domestic violence supportRemoving regulations meant to protect the planetDiscriminatory measures against people of different religion and racePutting someone in charge of our education system who is completely cluelessHaving a cabinet that is the richest and most unqualified to understand the working classGetting rid of Obamacare with no replacementI could go on and on and on.......I would get called out for a post like this regardless of what it said. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Go AtlantaGo Pitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Go AtlantaGo PittThat would be a pretty exciting super bowl. I hope Pitt can win the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Packers are winning right now, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Can't believe Fox News is ignoring the fact that the Packers are the ones up 17-0. Sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBadgersW Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Packers are winning right now, period.Yeah the Packers D is fabulous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 We love our packers don't we?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Can't believe Fox News is ignoring the fact that the Packers are the ones up 17-0. Sad!Nice! Alternative Facts- should have been the slogan of the campaign instead of MAGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 What an amazing beat down. Just wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 This is the Patient Freedom Act which should be signed this week to properly repeal the mandate and penalties associated with the ACA and to add FSAs. Sounds pretty decent to me. Doesn't sound at all like the "get rid of Obamacare with no replacement" garbage I've seen over and over. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/1531 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 You understand what getting rid of the mandate will do to premiums, right? I hope you do. You know why they have the mandate, right? If they get rid of the mandate and keep everything else, insurance companies are going to take a beating. I get how some people can have a beef with it, but I also don't think a lot of people understand the importance if you're going to keep the good things of Obamacare. So, yes, this really isn't a "replacement" option because you're going to have to make some other major changes if this is the case.. otherwise prices literally have to go up, because less healthy people will be signed up, and that will ultimately rise premiums/deductibles. A system that keeps provisions like kids staying until 26, pre-existing conditions, no cap limits only can stay alive if healthy people are signing up too. And part of the (again, part of) the season the ACA didn't work as well was because more people took the penalty than they anticipated and weren't paying into the health insurance, therefore the price increased. There are some things to tweak, but I just don't see how ridding of the mandate is going to help a majority of the working class people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 On another note, I guess last weekends games were too good so we couldn't have another round of good games this weekend. Both games today were brutally boring. Hoping for a fun SuperBowl, which I think it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I have zero interest in the super bowl. The pats are boring and I could care less about Atlanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 You understand what getting rid of the mandate will do to premiums, right? I hope you do. You know why they have the mandate, right? If they get rid of the mandate and keep everything else, insurance companies are going to take a beating. I get how some people can have a beef with it, but I also don't think a lot of people understand the importance if you're going to keep the good things of Obamacare. So, yes, this really isn't a "replacement" option because you're going to have to make some other major changes if this is the case.. otherwise prices literally have to go up, because less healthy people will be signed up, and that will ultimately rise premiums/deductibles. A system that keeps provisions like kids staying until 26, pre-existing conditions, no cap limits only can stay alive if healthy people are signing up too. And part of the (again, part of) the season the ACA didn't work as well was because more people took the penalty than they anticipated and weren't paying into the health insurance, therefore the price increased. There are some things to tweak, but I just don't see how ridding of the mandate is going to help a majority of the working class people.I swear it's like you wait for me to post. Lol. Comment wasn't directed at you. As the last few have not been. I'm fine with someone calling BS on me whether right or wrong but you can do it to the whiny liberal BS artist in here also any time you want. Feel free. You won't and haven't. We'll still disagree on this issue. We already know that. I merely posted what the act does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 The fact here that is undeniable is that there will be literally zero improvement on any scale by anyone until drug companies are sharply corrected and properly regulated. This would solve almost all the issues that both Republicans and Democrats are concerned about while still improving coverages for those with preexisting conditions by drastically reduced costs to providers. The problem being that neither party will even remotely touch the drug companies while we as a nation finance medical research for the entire planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I don't think any new changes will cause a deviation of any appreciable kind to this trend. Just the same as Obamacare didn't do anything truly appreciable to it either. Where did all the extra money go? I'm sure we can both do this all day. Lol https://www.atr.org/six-years-obamacare-has-failed-deliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I will respond to you Ok, but have classes and internship all day. I don't disagree with a lot of what you say by the way, and just happened to check the site last night like right after you posted that. Don't take it too personal, you're actually one of the people I enjoy bantering with because you'll listen and actually support your side. But don't think I'm ignoring you today, not that you would think that anyway the discussion on the ACA or healthcare in general is always a good one to have, as long as people are actually listening and presenting some type of factual and understandable argument, which you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I didn't mean to come off as taking that so personally. Just ignore that part. Just mostly want the person that it was directed at to respond to it. Definitely pretty good discussion overall so can't disagree with that. Banter away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Union leaders sure love Trump today and they said they had an incredible meeting with him These are the same people who supported and endorsed Hillary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 When was the last time union leaders actually praised republican presidents before? Trump is also meeting with both republicans and democrats tonight. I think they can get something done on trade and infrastructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 And now Trump said the meeting with congressional leaders went beautiful and they are about to announce a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 glad TPP is gone, now its time to fix NAFTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 They terminated TPP. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 The new NASCAR points system is beyond stupid. Thanks for ruining that sport even more Brian France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Sean Spicer with a good explanation on why so many Trump supporters/Trump are frustrated with the media https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/823632772203806720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Sean Spicer with a good explanation on why so many Trump supporters/Trump are frustrated with the media https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/823632772203806720the media just got Spiced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Hey Illinois people, so I got some violations in the mail today over missed tolls on the Tollway and its a couple hundred dollars, I dont pass through IL too often, so could I get away with just not paying them like a parking ticket in a city you arent going back to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Hey Illinois people, so I got some violations in the mail today over missed tolls on the Tollway and its a couple hundred dollars, I dont pass through IL too often, so could I get away with just not paying them like a parking ticket in a city you arent going back to?Not sure about that. Never been in that situation before. They are a pain in the a** though. You can call and negotiate them down. Those fee's are redic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Hey Illinois people, so I got some violations in the mail today over missed tolls on the Tollway and its a couple hundred dollars, I dont pass through IL too often, so could I get away with just not paying them like a parking ticket in a city you arent going back to?No that'll go on your driving record, you should definitely call and see if you can get them lowered though because the penalty is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Sean Spicer with a good explanation on why so many Trump supporters/Trump are frustrated with the media https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/823632772203806720Oh you poor people, seems like you guys need a safe space to go off into your alternative reality where facts and that stuff don't matter. Lol at you all for being anti-PC and then throwing this out there. Who's the real snowflake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 They terminated TPP. Nice.They did not "terminate TPP." This is what people don't realie. TPP is now alive and very well, and now China is angling at taking over. You know Obama worked on TPP to counter China, right? This will likely only help China, and that's why someone like McCain wasn't comfortable with it. I get people's gripe with it, but abondoning the idea is actually not a great idea because it'll now actually give china more leverage and they take the throne in that deal. Also, the US was never part of TPP officially, so it's not possible to terminate something you never belonged to. Bascially whats going to happen is those 11 remaining countries will have to rewrite the deal and likely have to find another global superpower - which, like I said, will likely be China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Not sure about that. Never been in that situation before. They are a pain in the a** though. You can call and negotiate them down. Those fee's are redic. No that'll go on your driving record, you should definitely call and see if you can get them lowered though because the penalty is insane.thanks and yea those tolls are a pain in the a**. Especially how they are so close together. Just make it a toll when you get on and leave and at the end of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 glad TPP is gone, now its time to fix NAFTAJust curious, what specifically would you like to see done to fix NAFTA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 thanks and yea those tolls are a pain in the a**. Especially how they are so close together. Just make it a toll when you get on and leave and at the end of the road.Oh trust me, I know. I've done it myself and had to pay fines. But make sure to try to take care of that so it doesn't turn into something bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just curious, what specifically would you like to see done to fix NAFTA?I was thinking that we can use it as leverage against Mexico for things such as illegal immigration. Honestly I dont think there is much we can do to fix it other then destroy it so we might as well use it to make them enforce border laws. And I dont see a wall being built. Maybe electronic stuff being put in, but an actual wall isnt happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 They did not "terminate TPP." This is what people don't realie. TPP is now alive and very well, and now China is angling at taking over. You know Obama worked on TPP to counter China, right? This will likely only help China, and that's why someone like McCain wasn't comfortable with it. I get people's gripe with it, but abondoning the idea is actually not a great idea because it'll now actually give china more leverage and they take the throne in that deal. Also, the US was never part of TPP officially, so it's not possible to terminate something you never belonged to. Bascially whats going to happen is those 11 remaining countries will have to rewrite the deal and likely have to find another global superpower - which, like I said, will likely be China.Depends on which liberal news source you're using. Lol. Ahem CNN. Trump merely getting elected was supposed to destroy the economy wasn't it? I don't know any world where being in a massive trade deficit is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Trump is still telling people he won the popular vote despite being sworn as president last week. At the first meeting of democrats and republicans as president he spent the first 10 minutes talking about the election and how there were 3-5 million illegal votes cast otherwise he would have won that too. Get over it dude. You're president already. So insecure. Insecurity is a scary trait in someone who's POTUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Get over it dude. He's president already.Fixed your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Oh you poor people, seems like you guys need a safe space to go off into your alternative reality where facts and that stuff don't matter. Lol at you all for being anti-PC and then throwing this out there. Who's the real snowflake.Show me a candidate for president who was laughed at for running, told he couldn't do this or that and been bashed by news organizations non stop Obama was never treated like that and it just shows the bias "reporting" has right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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