December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest

[luvssnow_spokane]

Dad?

*LIKE THIS*

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Yikes!  The ECMWF puts a damper on things.  More whiskey...

 

I could use some whiskey...But I haven't had a drink in 6 weeks...Damnit I'm such a quitter.

[luvssnow_spokane]

Daddy Dewey... and Mama Jesse

[Goducks09]

OR maybe you have had to much already.

 

Likely.  The 18z is a bad influence.

[Phil]

Daddy Dewey... and Mama Jesse

Uncle Tim, Grandpa Jim?

[luvssnow_spokane]

Uncle Tim, Grandpa Jim?

Ahh one big happy family... 

[MossMan]

The ensembles for the Euro will be epic...even more epic than the GFS...you heard it here first! I'm going to bed. Goodnight dad.

[Phil]

Ahh one big happy family... 

Jesse actually does remind me of my mom.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Jesse actually does remind me of my mom.

 

No comment

[Goducks09]

Most worthy events have a flip/flops.  The GFS pattern of blocking run after run after run is encouraging...but not something we've never seen before, 75% of the time they bust (that stat is statistically sound FYI...lol...not).  PacNW weather is a rollercoaster...that's why we love it.  The snow and cold will get here eventually - enjoy the ride (and the whiskey).  Good night y'all!

[stuffradio]

Jesse actually does remind me of my mom.

Mom?

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Warning shot!

Gut shot.

[snow_wizard]

The Euro still gets cold.

Not sure what people mean by it being a bad run.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Uncle Tim, Grandpa Jim?

we're so sorry.. uncle Albert.

[TT-SEA]

You can really see the snow still falling on the North Bend cam down in the valley even though its dark...

 

http://146.129.248.180/northbend.html

[snow_wizard]

Dropped back to 32 after briefly reaching 33 here. The cold has really hung on with the light east breeze.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The Euro still gets cold.

Not sure what people mean by it being a bad run.

 

Yeah I don't think anyone said it was bad, just not epic.

[Jesse]

Jesse actually does remind me of my mom.

Weird.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

PDX is going to pull off a -8 departure today. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Weird.

Acually frightening.

[chopper 918]

Yeah I don't think anyone said it was bad, just not epic.

Epic doesn't happen very often in the PNW, so there really isn't any reason to get upset about it. It is what it is. We live in a maritime climate.

[luvssnow_spokane]

The Euro still gets cold.

Not sure what people mean by it being a bad run.

Agreed! Not a bad run and maybe a little better shot at snow. Night all!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

And 3rd sub 40 high this "season" if we are counting...Jesse...

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

You can really see the snow still falling on the North Bend cam down in the valley even though its dark...How deep is your snow now?

 

http://146.129.248.180/northbend.html

[luvssnow_spokane]

Dropped back to 32 after briefly reaching 33 here. The cold has really hung on with the light east breeze.

39 here with a good s to sw wind.

[Phil]

Weird.

Well, you both constantly complain about warmth and overheating, view the world in black and white, and insult me on a regular basis.

 

Bad joke but still has some merit.

[Jesse]

Well, you both constantly complain about warmth and overheating, view the world in black and white, and insult me on a regular basis.

 

Bad joke but still has some merit.

Ka-bam!

 

Someone's feisty tonight. Why don't you tell us how full of the Euro was compared to the GFS?

[Phil]

Ka-bam!

Someone's feisty tonight. Why don't you tell us how full of s**t the Euro was compared to the GFS?

Which one do you think is more full of s**t?

[Phil]

When do I get to like posts again? This sucks.

[TT-SEA]

Just measured the best we could... 19-20 inches on the ground on average.    And its snowing hard... 28 degrees with a good east wind still blowing.

[Jesse]

Just measured the best we could... 19-20 inches on the ground on average. And its snowing hard... 28 degrees with a good east wind still blowing.

Wow. This reminds me of some of the situations you would have back in 2007-12. It just keeps finding ways to snow there.

[TT-SEA]

Wow. This reminds me of some of the situations you would have back in 2007-12. It just keeps finding ways to snow there.

 

 

 

I was just talking to my neighbor about that while shoveling... he said the same thing.   

[Phil]

Just measured the best we could... 19-20 inches on the ground on average. And its snowing hard... 28 degrees with a good east wind still blowing.

Mind sharing some of that?

[TT-SEA]

Really this is the most prolific snow producing scenario here... cold air supply to the east with copious moisture streaming in from the southwest which would just result in another very rainy day otherwise.   

 

C-zones are second behind this set-up.    

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Just measured the best we could... 19-20 inches on the ground on average. And its snowing hard... 28 degrees with a good east wind still blowing.

And its not going anywhere anytime soon. Nice..

[BLI snowman]

Just measured the best we could... 19-20 inches on the ground on average. And its snowing hard... 28 degrees with a good east wind still blowing.

Regardless of how much rain you may get tomorrow, you're still going to have a solid snowpack for a long time. Rest of the month if models are to be believed.

[TT-SEA]

And its not going anywhere anytime soon. Nice..

 

 

It will melt and compact down to half this by Sunday... but it should not totally disappear now.   

[TT-SEA]

Regardless of how much rain you may get tomorrow, you're still going to have a solid snowpack for a long time. Rest of the month if models are to be believed.

 

 

35 degree rain really does not melt snow very fast.   I doubt it gets to 40 this weekend here.

 

The worst case scenario is a situation like early December 2007 when we got 24 inches of snow in one day and then had 57 degrees with a 30mph SW wind the next day.    That was amazing (and sad) to watch how quickly it vanished.    The wind just ate the snow at a rapid pace.   It did not turn to water... it just disappeared.  

[TT-SEA]

Temperature back down to 27.     That is where we were at last night at this time.

[bainbridgekid]

35 degree rain really does not melt snow very fast.   I doubt it gets to 40 this weekend here.

 

The worst case scenario is a situation like early December 2007 when we got 24 inches of snow in one day and then had 57 degrees with a 30mph SW wind the next day.    That was amazing (and sad) to watch how quickly it vanished.    The wind just ate the snow at a rapid pace.   It did not turn to water... it just disappeared.  

Better than watching it disappear in 57 degree rain though. I once left for Chicago with 12" on the ground (my aunt sent pictures as I was leaving for the airport.) It literally all disappeared before my flight got there with thunderstorms and temperatures in the low 60's.

 

It's amazing how rarely I've seen significant snow melt in the sun around here though. Late February 2014 in Bellingham was the only time I can think of. We got over a foot and it slowly melted as temperatures soared into the 50's a few days later with sunny skies. It was nice. It didn't even seem to melt like you said. Just disappeared.