Tom Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 The latest CanSIPS agreeing that a cold April is on tap, with lingering chill across the northern tier while the south begins to warm late Spring setting the stage for a hot start to summer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I think Spring breaks into here in around 2 weeks. This cold pattern definitely won't be around here forever. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I think Spring breaks into here in around 2 weeks. This cold pattern definitely won't be around here forever.Ya, I agree to some degree, that your region will see the break first, but not out here towards the GL's as the pesky -NAO pattern doesn't look like it will escape anytime soon. Sucks really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Wouldn't mind seeing that April map repeat again in about July or August. Really would be happy with about 2 weeks of sunny and 75 though. Looks like I'm in the most bi-polar spot on the map for the foreseeable future though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 With March being the 1st month of spring I will place this here. March recap at Grand Rapids, MIThe mean temperature for the month was 34.0° and that is -1.3° below average the average High was 43.3° and the average low was 25.4° the warmest high was just 56° on the 18th and the coldest it got all month was just 17° on the 10th Just 5 days reached 50° or better and only 3 nights stayed above 32° there was just 4.9” of snow fall (8.3” is average) and just 1.16” of total precipitation. So the month was a cool and some what dry month with no major extremes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 My concerns this summer for sustained coolness and a wetter overall look is what happens in the NE PAC or the west coast. If we are to use the years posted earlier that come into play for this summer season, the CFSv2 is certainly trending that way of late. I'm not going to buy into the real cool summer just yet for parts of the Plains, but like last year, an overall dry Autumn/Winter turned very wet in mid/late Spring. Will this happen again this season? Here are the latest trends for May via the CFSv2...notice the trough replaced by the NE PAC ridge which was my concern in this part of the region to fulfill a cooler to near avg summer for our sub forum overall. If you have this same pattern roll through summer and connect with the ridge in Canada, there will almost certainly be a trough across the central CONUS. With that being said, here is the 3-month summer 500mb pattern... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Unfortunately, yesterday's Euro Weeklies show the -EPO pattern that the CFSv2 is indicating as we get into May...not only that, but high lat blocking continues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Ya, I agree to some degree, that your region will see the break first, but not out here towards the GL's as the pesky -NAO pattern doesn't look like it will escape anytime soon. Sucks really. Was noted elsewhere that this current -NAO scheme parallels 2013 extremely well and that lasted til mid-April with a lag effect til month's end. Ofc, 2014 was even colder than this year post Valentine's Day, but the huge difference was the 2 feet of snow that I also scored during that period. Much easier to take when there's at least something to get excited for 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Year without a summer? Starting to look like it. That ridge is slowly getting beaten back to the west as we roll forward in the models. I'm okay with it but I sure would like for it to at least get to 70 for about 2 weeks somewhere in here without a foot of rain following it or 30mph winds every single day. I'm already fast forwarding a bit to late summer and from where I sit, we have some interesting things setting up down the road if it all works out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Year without a summer? Starting to look like it. That ridge is slowly getting beaten back to the west as we roll forward in the models. I'm okay with it but I sure would like for it to at least get to 70 for about 2 weeks somewhere in here without a foot of rain following it or 30mph winds every single day. I'm already fast forwarding a bit to late summer and from where I sit, we have some interesting things setting up down the road if it all works out.You mean, "year without 95F+ for days" down by you? How would that sound? If the wet pattern continues, chances are in your favor. Isn't a heat wave categorized as 3 or more days of 95F+ temps down by you? Up here it is 90F+ for 3 or more days and I don't see that happening around here this year. If Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 A lot of research has been done on the impacts of the U.S. climate after the episode of the "warm Blob" in the NE PAC. If the CFSv2 trends are right, it is noteworthy to see what the model is showing in this region during the summer. Look at the recent trends and where it is going for early Autumn. This would be a dramatic flip in the SST's and would favor a cooler/wetter summer overall across our sub forum. We also see these warm waters via the CanSIPS but this model IMO is way to warm for summer. Interestingly, these maps look quite similar when you look at the Maunder Minimum temp reconstruction maps during solar minimums. Are we heading towards a climate shift that has nothing to do with CO2??? Should we get used to these warm waters in this part of the world??? Lot's of questions to be answered over the next 5-10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 It'd be a miracle Summer for us if we don't hit 100. Tom, can you make that happen please? 2 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 You mean, "year without 95F+ for days" down by you? How would that sound? If the wet pattern continues, chances are in your favor. Isn't a heat wave categorized as 3 or more days of 95F+ temps down by you? Up here it is 90F+ for 3 or more days and I don't see that happening around here this year. IfWith the first decent ridge of the warm season appearing to grip the western part of my state, (and most likely destroying a large portion of the severe weather season in the process) I'd say odd of any meaningful heatwaves east of I-35 are dropping significantly each day. I'll have to refresh my memory on the exact measurements that entail a true heatwave here but my quick guess is 95+ for 3 or more days or 90+ with dewpoints of 60+ for 3 or more days. I'm curious now as to what is correct here though so don't quote me on that. I hate summer but I'm trying to become more interested/involved in regards to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 A lot of research has been done on the impacts of the U.S. climate after the episode of the "warm Blob" in the NE PAC. If the CFSv2 trends are right, it is noteworthy to see what the model is showing in this region during the summer. Look at the recent trends and where it is going for early Autumn. This would be a dramatic flip in the SST's and would favor a cooler/wetter summer overall across our sub forum. We also see these warm waters via the CanSIPS but this model IMO is way to warm for summer. Interestingly, these maps look quite similar when you look at the Maunder Minimum temp reconstruction maps during solar minimums. Are we heading towards a climate shift that has nothing to do with CO2??? Should we get used to these warm waters in this part of the world??? Lot's of questions to be answered over the next 5-10 years.If I am not mistaken, 2013 was a failed attempt at this. My historical research has shown that late 1970s and late 1910s cold periods are directly preceeded by this. If this area stays warm, continents will all cool. What is noteworthy is how early we are in solar minimum to be seeing this. 2013 was nearly 4.5 years post minimum and we are already here again. That should be a huge clue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 The latest long lead SST CA Forecast suggesting a wet and warm summer for most of us... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wd52pp/sst/201803/caprec_anom.2.png http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wd52pp/sst/201803/cat2m_anom.0.png Of note, this model is also seeing the warm blob in the NE PAC along with an ENSO neutral PAC... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wd52pp/sst/201803/casst_anom.2.png Finally, the warm biased NMME model continues to show a hot/dry summer across the sub forum... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/NMME/current/images/NMME_ensemble_tmp2m_us_season2.png http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/NMME/current/images/NMME_ensemble_prate_us_season2.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 If we end up like last Summer and are "above normal" overall but there are no real big heat waves then fine with me. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Typically, as we get deeper into May, a -NAO/-AO have a different effect on temps across the lower 48 and shift troughs/cooler weather more towards the west/SW which may give us a clue as to whether we should believe the CFSv2. Take a look at the recent trends for May...IMO, its got the right idea.... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/CFSv2.z700.20180410.201805.gif http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/CFSv2.NaT2m.20180410.201805.gif http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/CFSv2.NaPrec.20180410.201805.gif Here is the historical data for a -NAO regime in May... -AO in May... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Typically, as we get deeper into May, a -NAO/-AO have a different effect on temps across the lower 48 and shift troughs/cooler weather more towards the west/SW which may give us a clue as to whether we should believe the CFSv2. Take a look at the recent trends for May...IMO, its got the right idea....That's a good look for severe weather and means that the growing season could finally start. Too bad it's CFSv2. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 That's a good look for severe weather and means that the growing season could finally start. Too bad it's CFSv2.Just curious, can you see the NAO/AO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just curious, can you see the NAO/AO?On Euro weeklies, NAO/AO tanks around May 7-11. That's around the time I think we may see a potent cold snap capable of bringing late freezes. Also a pretty big drop near the end of April. Mid-May I believe is when warm weather is finally locked in. I love cold cloudy weather and all, but I'm tired of seeing empty fields. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just curious, can you see the NAO/AO? Nope, not showing Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Nope, not showingFixed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Typically, as we get deeper into May, a -NAO/-AO have a different effect on temps across the lower 48 and shift troughs/cooler weather more towards the west/SW which may give us a clue as to whether we should believe the CFSv2. Take a look at the recent trends for May...IMO, its got the right idea.... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/CFSv2.z700.20180410.201805.gif http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/CFSv2.NaT2m.20180410.201805.gif http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/CFSv2.NaPrec.20180410.201805.gif Here is the historical data for a -NAO regime in May... -AO in May... Looks 'bout right. I remember fantastic warm and sunny days in May of '82 whilst Denver was making the evening news with heavy snowstorms. At that time/age I didn't have a clue wrt the mountain west climo so to me, a snowstorm in May was cray-cray stuff Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Well, the JAMSTEC model just came in today and its advertising a blow torch for much of the nation, except for parts of the GL's into New England. Very dry across the central CONUS. Is it believable??? Interestingly, it's ENSO forecast is holding onto the idea of warm ENSO neutral conditions through the summer which would not necessarily indicate a blow torch. I remember Summer '13 had a similar look to it. http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frcgc/research/d1/iod/2007/forecast/temp2.glob.JJA2018.1apr2018.gif http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frcgc/research/d1/iod/2007/forecast/tprep.glob.JJA2018.1apr2018.gif http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frcgc/research/d1/iod/2007/forecast/ssta.nino3.4.fcst.2-yr.1apr2018.gif Finally, the SST's in the N PAC continue to trend warmer and the development of the "blob" in the NE PAC is becoming evident among the models. http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frcgc/research/d1/iod/2007/forecast/ssta.glob.JJA2018.1apr2018.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 With the continuation of easterly trades across the equatorial PAC, Nina base state likely to continue through the end of this month...Nino delayed or Denied??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 So it looks like we have a seasonal model for everyone. Literally. Chaos. I'm still going with my sw/west coast ridge idea transitioning or retrograding into a tall west coast ridge into Alaska and the Northeast Pacific in late summer. It would fit more in line with the warm neutral 2013ish confused El Nino look as well. The 2008-09 transition is not a bad example to look at either, nor is 1982-83 or 1975-76 transition. It still seems like the only logical response to me but I've been wrong before. I don't disagree with the warmth over NE US or the bulk of SE Canada at this point. This is a hard year to lay out so the analog process is likely going to be more confusing than it's worth this year. It would take 3 pages to explain. Lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 The latest CPC equatorial depth anomalies are showing warmth growing below the surface of the ocean...should be an interesting battle between the cool & warm waters over the next couple weeks as strong easterlies are in the forecast. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ocean/anim/wkxzteq_anm.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 The latest CPC equatorial depth anomalies are showing warmth growing below the surface of the water...should be an interesting battle between the cool & warm waters over the next couple weeks as strong easterlies are in the forecast. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ocean/anim/wkxzteq_anm.gifVery weak CP Niño by early to mid-summer would basically guarantee the look I discussed in my previous post. I'm seeing an incredible setup for a Pacific tsunami season in the making after that warmth breaks the surface also. Would almost lock in a cool to cold late summer as we discussed for everyone east of the Rockies. Love what is shaping up at this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Very weak CP Niño by early to mid-summer would basically guarantee the look I discussed in my previous post. I'm seeing an incredible setup for a Pacific tsunami season in the making after that warmth breaks the surface also. Would almost lock in a cool to cold late summer as we discussed for everyone east of the Rockies. Love what is shaping up at this time.Would be nice to see the convection later in the season set up in the central PAC, or close to the ENSO 3/3.4 region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 There aint gonna be Spring this year. BN to MBN. Idk, hopefully, that doesn't pan out. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hope there is a summer....I'm still waiting for spring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 News flash! Spring showed up, and played today in SMI Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 News flash! Spring showed up, and played today in SMIIf the Euro Weeklies are right, I'm really going to try and get outta town after my cousins wedding next weekend and head to AZ for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 If the Euro Weeklies are right, I'm really going to try and get outta town after my cousins wedding next weekend and head to AZ for a while.I don't think you will have any trouble at all staying toasty down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Hot off the press, the JMA seasonal showing encouraging signs that summer will in fact make a push next month. The SW ridge looks to build and push next month out in the Plains, but this may not happen till mid/late month as my idea of a hot start to summer is in the cards. However, those folks up near the GL's/Upper MW may still be dealing with back door cold fronts as blocking still has somewhat of an impact in May, but in June, this blocking effect disappears. In June, the same pattern continues in the SW/southern Plains states, but more of a normal temp regime across the rest of the sub forum which is very similar to what the CFSv2 is painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Cross spring off the list here... That season is all but lost... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Here was the March run from CPC for JJA temp maps for the Summer....I believe they will update their April run today...interested to see if they continue to show the "trough" look in the heart of the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I would love it if we had absolutely no heat this Summer and record snow in June. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 No Spring this year. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 FWIW, I took a look at the Euro Seasonal 2m temps for the summer and compared the previous 2 runs. It's clear that the cooler idea may be in the cards for the central CONUS. Definitely did trend cooler and wetter across the Rockies/SW. Sure, there are pockets of warmth as one would expect to see in the summer. Another strong Monsoon on the way??? March run... April run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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