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me coming into the forum seeing posts about "ufo's" and "bees"..

Not even close to what we have seen out here pretty much every summer since 2015. Not impressed.

Got visited by a swarm of honey bees yesterday!

Ouch, that's an inaccurate and uncalled for burn by Cliff. However, it doesn't surprise me one bit that Cliff feels threatened by the success of Michael's Youtube channel and social media following.

Called the local bee farm and they came and gave them a new home!

My son is at a friend's cabin on Mason Lake north of Shelton... looks beautiful! Had to look it up on a map.

Mass and Snyder are both boobz.

a Cliff Mass of bees, if you will?

There is an OT thread.

My 5yo son tonight who became absolutely obsessed with the kraken during their playoff run: “I’ve been a Vegas knights fan since I was one”

The air in SoCal is sooooo much cleaner now than even when we lived there in the 90s. The difference is truly amazing.

You’re a rude person. It’s more complicated than niño = cold SW US, especially in the warm season. However, the regime of circulation producing this outcome is also associated with the developing El Niño (and the unusual route it is taking compared to other modern-era niños). This type of pattern would be almost impossible to pull off during La Niña.

Yet he couldn't divert that Tesla in his own neighborhood...

He does and he is an operational meteorologist for Alaska Airlines. He's responsible for planning and diverting flight paths around extreme weather. Not exactly the kind of job you would entrust to an amateur...

The GFS is showing a tropical cyclone hitting LA in fantasyland.

Idk man Cliff Mass says this is totally normal

There is a chance of rain/storms as the backdoor cold front moves through later today, but it looks pretty scattered.

00z GFS dropping some 2-4 inch rainfall totals in spots that could really use it. 06z GFS looked similar. Crossing my fingers this upcoming pattern change can really start to put a dent in ongoing drought conditions across a large portion of the Midwest.

Good evening from Port Angeles Quite the view of the straights this evening. I’ve been watching the winds blow in from the west. Very slow process as it worked its way east. I Stupidly enjoyed this . I’m also attaching a pic of Devils Punch Bowl on lake Crescent . Pretty amazing spot here in the PNW !!!

Surprisingly lively and voluminous day on the forum.

With peak fall smoke numbers routinely in the 500s and now peak spring grass pollen numbers in the 1,300s, we Eugenians have a hard time feeling much sympathy for the East Coasters complaining about a little Canadian wildfire smoke. Good thing I developed tough lungs growing up in inland SoCal during the peak smog years of the 1970s. Speaking of which, it amuses me when I see all the hysteria over SoCal air quality numbers that are at least 90% better than they were 50 years ago. These people have no concept of how much better they have it today. Oh... and get off my lawn.

This is absolutely horrid…

I get hating cliff mass but don’t understand hating on mike Snyder. Anyways it’s to d*mn dry out here still. Need several rounds of regional heavy rains that probably aren’t coming.

Dam, Cliff calls Michael Snyder an amateur. Wonder what the makes me.

Personally I find it humbling to know that we are as insignificant as ants in the big picture. I think about it sometimes when I open my beehives in the summer and see a thriving colony of 40,000 bees, of which 39,999 will be dead in six weeks. But yet they are driven by evolution to survive and thrive and they work in a near-perfectly orchestrated way to ensure the survival of the colony and the species. It's incredible and beautiful and makes living worth it to see things like that. I feel the same about the weather, and the fact that through math science we have managed to explain and understand the weather well enough to predict the future is amazing. All of human society and everything that we hold near and dear will be gone before we know it, our planet and all of its history will be incinerated by the sun, and there will be no record or memory of earth's existence by anyone. And all of that will happen in a blip relative to the timeline of the universe. And who knows, the universe itself may be cyclical but we can't observe or prove that so as far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant. We could be an alien ant farm and it wouldn't matter to any of us, the best we can do is respect our tiny little delicate planet and those around us. I feel more fulfilled by accepting and respecting the above...time is a construct of the mind so there isn't any need to worry about it, although I admit it can be terrifying to be insignificant, it's better in the long run. (I'm obviously a full blown atheist but I was raised Catholic so I know religion well!)

I don’t follow the weather much this time of year but the last 2 days were abnormal and unexpectedly impactful. It was solidly windy, we had lots of limbs, leaves and 2 trees come down around our property.

Careful with that Tim trigger...

I know Silverton had numbers in the 500-600 range during the Beachie Creek Fire. That one was absolutely ridiculous. We stayed in Eugene during the evacuation and there was visible ash falling for several days with visibility under a mile for much of that time. We went to the coast once during that event, and even at Florence on the Central Oregon coast visibility was about 1/4 mile with a mixture of fog and marine layer. Temps were forecast in the 90s that week, but EUG ended up putting up several highs in the mid-60s instead. The day we evacuated the smoke was horrific up here, however, when we came back about a week later, it was much thinner up here and temps were about 20 degrees warmer than in the valley.

I guess smoke is to east coasters as humidity is to west coasters. Foreign. Don’t know how y’all live with this shit. Our pollen counts demolish yours though.

A little rain moving into western WA on day 10 per the 12Z ECMWF.

Snyder's general forecast is that it is not possible for it to snow south of Tacoma Narrows.

Totally normal... https://twitter.com/curious_founder/status/1666108255452692480?s=20

Cliff is 100% spot on here.

There is so much smoke high in the air you can not tell if it is cloudy or not. The sun is shining thru so it should be smoke. Any way I just took a step outside and with low DP and the wind we do have it feel rather cool out there. At the current time there is filtered sun and 77 here in MBY. On the east side of the state there are a lot of low 60’s and in the up near Lake Superior 50’s are the rule.

Got 0.29" from this low. 0.04" was from the marine layer drizzle/light rain from earlier in the day yesterday and the rest was from convective t'storms and showers last night. The avg for the month of June here is only 0.04". So now at 725% of avg for the month!

Eugene did it! 1301, a new world record!

Woah woah woah, that's like 5 steps too far! As a PNWer who hates the smoke, I'll admit to feeling a little schadenfreude about the east coast smoke -- and as I mentioned yesterday, I'm cheering for it to blanket the big east coast cities as much as possible, especially Washington DC. Oh I should add, I'm not an academic! I work in the private sector.

The extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claims of spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin visiting Earth just has not been put forth yet. Maybe the story in that article will be the start of such a thing finally happening, but I have my doubts.

surface/lower atmospheric smoke acts like fog in a sense it came dim the sun and cool daytime temps, but it does not trap heat at night, so cooling happens regardless, unlike clouds above the surface

Oh yeah, I know him, great guy, he built my hot rod!

You should meet my friend Jesus

This pretty much sums up my feelings as well.

Our experience out here has been no effect on nighttime temps and significant cooling of daytime temps when smoke is thick enough to dim sunlight.

Backdoor front will be in my area tomorrow. Timing could be good for some scattered strong storms, we often get some strong winds with this type of setup.

I do.

Some widespread rainfall would be nice, looks like there is a chance of that happening near mby this weekend.

Good Day all! Yesterday, PHX torched and hit a season high of 107F. Locally, it is a cool 67F this morning and quite refreshing. I smelled the wild fires in the air that are burning near the HWY 87 Beeline not far from my place. In the mornings, while winds are calm, you can see the smoke layer on the camera shots across the valley acting like a "bowl", pooling all the smoke. Just to let you know, the wild fire season isn't as bad as years past. They are manageable and the continued Monsoon rains are really helping the situation. Is there a pattern change looming? Finally, a storm system will traverse out of the 4 Corners/Rockies and towards the GL's/OHV region by this weekend. The models are showing what was a very common theme over the course of the last cold season as a weak SLP will form out in the Sb Plains and track East bringing a ribbon of much needed moisture to the Eastern Sub. Some signs of a summer version OHV cutter??

We’re looking at a 9 day streak of temps in the low to mid 90’s. Should see our first 100 after that. (Breaks over, back on our head). High humidity - 55% High UV 11.0

Raining hard now!

I ended May with a pathetic .90 here. One of lowest amounts in all of Iowa. So far in June .25.. very demoralizing situation. This is why in early May when i got repeatedly missed by 10 to 15 miles I knew it was gonna hurt!