Front Ranger Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Yes... but it you take out some warm months from 2013-17 and some cold months from 2008-12 then its not so clear cut. My best Jared impression. You are doing a good one! Again, I don't cherry-pick. Except occasionally when I'm trolling you, Tim. I consistently use the same maps, the same stations, etc. Jesse, of course, is completely incapable of any objective contributions to this topic. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 "The Pleasure and Pain of Being California, the World’s 5th-Largest Economy" https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/07/us/california-economy-growth.html?hpw&rref=us&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-wellYeah, with the most expensive real estate, the highest cost of living, and the second largest debt of any state in the US? I’ll pass. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Is this available on WB? All I can find is the ECMWF weeklies.No, unfortunately it’s not. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Again, I don't cherry-pick. Except occasionally when I'm trolling you, Tim. I consistently use the same maps, the same stations, etc. Jesse, of course, is completely incapable of any objective contributions to this topic. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 ! It's ok, buddy, the ensembles show more of a cool down next week than the operational. Still will probably end up hottest May on record at PDX - but not OLM. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 I don’t know whether to be happy because Tim is under a trough, or peeved because I’m under a ridge. #conflicted Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Yeah, with the most expensive real estate, the highest cost of living, and the second largest debt of any state in the US? I’ll pass. Move to Mississippi! https://www.homesnacks.net/most-expensive-states-in-america-1211632/ 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Move to Mississippi! https://www.homesnacks.net/most-expensive-states-in-america-1211632/Lol. I wonder what would kill me first..the fried ice cream or the summer humidity? Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest happ Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Yeah, with the most expensive real estate, the highest cost of living, and the second largest debt of any state in the US? I’ll pass.Do your homework, Phil. Agree w/ Jared ; you and Tim would be much happier in a deep red state. "Tax burdens: 7 states with highest income tax" https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/taxes/2017/10/13/7-states-with-the-highest-income-tax/106458790/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nina Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Yes Tim it’s called cherry picking. We all know how it works. He does it to you all the time with the precip stuff.It's been really cold these past few years. WTF?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 It's been really cold these past few years. WTF?! Really dry too! Cold and dry. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nina Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 I know... its been warm and wet overall. But 2018 was not as warm as I expected so far... and most of the years in the last decade have been normal or below normal to this point in the year. Almost seems like we are due for some warmth in the January - April period looking at the 2008-18 period.Especially January, been a real cold month lately. Only 2nd warmest in Portland this year. And I think Feb 2015 was the hottest ever in Portland, but heck it's been 3 years, time for another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Really dry too! Cold and dry. You might remember that I never argued with you that 2014-17 was a really wet period. It was. I simply pointed out that the unusual wetness was concentrated mainly over the course of a few months, and the overall wetness has decreased over the past year. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Made it 72, little cooler now probably due to the SW/W breeze going. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Gorgeous afternoon... sunny and 70. Looks like summer now. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Gorgeous afternoon... sunny and 70. Looks like summer now. Might as well be. Portland's warmest May (up to now) is as warm as the average June. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 00z! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Really wish we could just analyze and appreciate the weather while not jumping to political conclusions that are divisive. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I like how the clouds are largely absent over the southern end of Vancouver Island this morning. Clouds made it past the Bellingham invisible boundary today. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/wfo/sew/vis.jpg It was sunny all day here, but I could see thick marine layer clouds to the south. This is pretty common in the warm season. Early in the morning I could see the clouds tearing apart as they moved north, this area is a divergence zone in onshore flow, the marine stratus tends to get pushed south and concentrates in the convergence zone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Really wish we could just analyze and appreciate the weather while not jumping to political conclusions that are divisive. It not so much political as it is scientific. Or simply, values regarding responsibilities to the environment. There are some Republicans like Trump who only value personal profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Nina Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 It not so much political as it is scientific. Or simply, values regarding responsibilities to the environment. There are some Republicans like Trump who only value personal profit. Lol please reread and think about what Mr. Sex drive said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 A place came on the market in the area about 1850', bigger house, twice as much land...Think I'm going to check it out this weekend...I am most definitely NOT regretting our decision to upgrade to a bigger house and more property, we are loving the new place!! My suggestion...go for it now since rates will be continuing to climb through the end of the year I’m sure. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Yesterday the GEM was toying with the idea of cutting off way more energy into the desert SW and weakening the ridge. Now all the models show this idea. Here is the 00Z ECMWF for Sunday: Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Kanadian kut-off bias! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 It not so much political as it is scientific. Or simply, values regarding responsibilities to the environment. There are some Republicans like Trump who only value personal profit.The topic of climate change ideally should be more scientific than political. Unfortunately, the actions the world is taking now are largely political, and will do little/nothing to reduce CO^2. FWIW, I happen to believe that a *slow* CO^2 increase to 500 or 600ppm would be more beneficial than harmful to humanity. Certainly, it would boost agriculture and reduce famine worldwide. I’m more worried about preventing an ice age in the long term than averting global warming in the short term. Unfortunately, neither may be possible. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Hey, where'd that go? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 The topic of climate change ideally should be more scientific than political. Unfortunately, the actions the world is taking now are largely political, and will do little/nothing to reduce CO^2. FWIW, I happen to believe that a *slow* CO^2 increase to 500 or 600ppm would be more beneficial than harmful to humanity. Certainly, it would boost agriculture and reduce famine worldwide. I’m more worried about preventing an ice age in the long term than averting global warming in the short term. Unfortunately, neither may be possible.A lot of what you post contradicts itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Hey, where'd that go?Phat phingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Gorgeous afternoon... sunny and 70. Looks like summer now. Portland has been running a mean temperature just a little cooler than an average June the first week of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Trip to the beach starting today and coming back Sunday. Hoping for some dry moments at least. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Trip to the beach starting today and coming back Sunday. Hoping for some dry moments at least. I think most of Friday will be nice down there... and certainly dry on Saturday and Sunday. Maybe some offshore flow if you are lucky. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 A lot of what you post contradicts itself. Phil says a lot of things... Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I think most of Friday will be nice down there... and certainly dry on Saturday and Sunday. Maybe some offshore flow if you are lucky. Friday and Saturday are probably the best bet for dry and sunny. The marine layer could be back in the picture by Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Might as well be. Portland's warmest May (up to now) is as warm as the average June. Portland has been running a mean temperature just a little cooler than an average June the first week of the month. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Really cool cirrus clouds overhead this morning. Will have to post pics in a bit. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 SEA has only seen two days with more than .01" since 4/16. And 16 days with no measurable precip. Pretty dry overall for second half of April, beginning of May. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Nice soaking coming in the next 72 hours. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Sun! Warmth! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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