2022-2023 California and Southwest Weather Thread

[Anti Marine Layer]

Eureka is trying to reverse-clear

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Lovely evening here. I’ll try to nab a sunset shot for you all, if clouds cooperate.

[Anti Marine Layer]

OOPS!

[Anti Marine Layer]

BANG!

 

The scumbags are at it again. 4th of July is over, idiots!

[Pn1ct0g3n]

First unobstructed sunset in about a week! 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Starting out sunny.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

ML is shallower today, and it’s hazy here, almost foggy. Short term forecast remains the same although they’re now saying two troughs are coming next week. The onshore flow will remain medium to strong, but inland areas have their best chance of thunder today and maybe tomorrow.

[Thunder98]

Nice and sunny this morning for once! 

[Pn1ct0g3n]

5 minutes ago, Thunder98 said:

Nice and sunny this morning for once! 

Not here heh.

Should clear out at least partially.

[Reg]

Took a long time to cool off last night and it didn't cool down much, despite the lower high yesterday afternoon. Stayed in the upper 60s all night.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Mock the mockingbird

Tweedle tweedle tweedle Chreep chreep chreep chreep Beep beep beep Tweet tweet tweet Chirrup chirrup chirrup chirrup quack quack quack

All that singing the night away and still no mate

He's running out of time

 

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

It would be nice to get an outflow boundary that pushes the marine layer away.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

37 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

It would be nice to get an outflow boundary that pushes the marine layer away.

Unfortunately that seems to be staying well east of us today. It tried to push through yesterday but fell apart as soon as it hit the stable ocean air.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

We are one of the few places in the northern hemisphere not experiencing major, record challenging heat waves this summer. It’s been on the low side of average, especially near the ocean. June and July essentially traded places.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Normal July heat is back, while the coast is still socked in. Godzilla Inversion activate!

It gets me wondering how unusual the beachgoer’s dream summers of (most of) the 2010s really were. We had a similar run of cool and foggy years in the early 2000s and it was blamed on a flip to the cool phase in the Pacific. Cue the 2010s when we got a lot of warm water years, and since 2020 the ocean is cool again.

[Anti Marine Layer]

I think the colder ocean comes in 10 year periods. It's the Pacific Decadal Oscillation after all.

That means we probably wait until the 2030s for warmer temps again, but by then AOC says the world will end. So maybe no more warm ocean waters ever again. 

Oops! Can't talk politics here.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Monsoon pulse was a bust today, but we get another chance tomorrow. 
 

VC and SB beaches cleared the best today, interesting. West facing ones stayed buried.

[Reg]

Much warmer today, 97F about an hour ago. Some clouds to the east but less than yesterday.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Low clouds lined up along the coast with thunderstorms far inland.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Around 70 for a high right here. Sun never quite came out, and tomorrow they’re expecting heatwave fog. 
 

Lingering upwelled water in the SM Bay combined with strong onshore flow has allowed the clouds to penetrate several miles inland despite the shallow marine layer. Elsewhere they’re not so pervasive.

There's a chance it finally blows out in time for sunset, but it will return with a vengeance after midnight.

The SSTs could get a nice bump with the heatwave, particularly if the predicted troughing next week doesn’t stick around. 2011 was just like this—July can still end on a high note!

[Reg]

Temperatures recovered poorly again last night/this morning. Low 68F.

[Anti Marine Layer]

17 minutes ago, Reg said:

Temperatures recovered poorly again last night/this morning. Low 68F.

That means a stronger inversion here.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

And it’s vicious. We are in full bore heatwave fog. We’ve got a bit more monsoon air moving in but it probably won’t make a dent.

[Anti Marine Layer]

Morning low clouds were further inland today than yesterday over Orange County. 

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Much warmer away from the coast today, and this will continue for a while. No coastal heatwaves in sight; in fact some beaches may still not crack 70 in this event.

We’d need high pressure strong enough, and far west enough, to press out the marine layer entirely and drive it offshore. That happened in 2018, causing beaches to spike into the mid-80s which is record-breaking for them in July! 
 

It also happened in June 2020, but the fog returned to the beaches in the latter half of it when the high shifted slightly. You need the right conditions and a warmer ocean also helps.
 

https://marineweather.net/coastal/point-mugu-to-san-mateo-pt-ca-including-santa-catalina-and-anacapa-islands-coastal-forecast

[Pn1ct0g3n]

I miss 2015 with all my soul. This is misery. Why do people call it paradise? I’ll never get it.

[Anti Marine Layer]

4 minutes ago, Pn1ct0g3n said:

I miss 2015 with all my soul. This is misery. Why do people call it paradise? I’ll never get it.

La garua 

[Anti Marine Layer]

[Anti Marine Layer]

33 minutes ago, Pn1ct0g3n said:

I miss 2015 with all my soul. This is misery. Why do people call it paradise? I’ll never get it.

Some may consider cold weather vs hot weather to be the lesser of two evils. To others 65 and cloudy doesn't feel cold to them.

[Anti Marine Layer]

2010 had record low highs at the coast almost every day of the summer, so it may be hard to outdo them this year, but if SSTs continue to drop...

[Anti Marine Layer]

Biggest mystery of this all is that SSTs are about average.

That's not like 2010 when there was a large area of blue to purple off our coast.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Still looks like a typical brewing La Niña as a lot of blue persists between here and Hawaii, and upwelling off South America and Baja is turbocharged.

Id expect to be seeing severe drought in many Oceania nations  too, with the cold tongue extending clear out to the Marshall Islands!

While beaches are chilly today, it doesn’t seem to be quite enough to be record challenging. 2010 was different because record cool highs went well inland and also came with cold nights. This is just another Godzilla Inversion. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Hot and humid here. Anyone interested in an old Toyota Amry?

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Nope, but one time on vacation we rented an old purple Dodge Zeon! (The N had come loose and turned on its side)

[Pn1ct0g3n]

Dews are indeed up now that the monsoon influence has arrived and suppressed the dry west/northwest flow. Shift that high a little ways further west, enough to push the marine layer offshore, and we’d probably have glorious skies at the beaches.

[Thunder98]

Nice and warm today after the marine layer quickly burned off at around 8am. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Need some monsoonal action west of the mountains.

[Thunder98]

High was 77F today.

[Pn1ct0g3n]

71 for a high here if my sources can be trusted. Sun finally came out around 4:00, but more keeps blowing in.

SD beaches haven’t cleared at all. But look farther south where outflow boundaries ripped through the gunk off Baja like wet tissue!

[Thunder98]

35 minutes ago, Pn1ct0g3n said:

71 for a high here if my sources can be trusted. Sun finally came out around 4:00, but more keeps blowing in.

SD beaches haven’t cleared at all. But look farther south where outflow boundaries ripped through the gunk off Baja like wet tissue!

The Central and South Coasts would be so much better if our climates was more like the Gulf Coast of Florida and have the bathwater temps during the Summer.