December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest

[Jesse]

I guess so... but those will become the flowers of spring in a few weeks.

And the cherry blossoms that you see in Issaquah next week will eventually become the leaves of autumn. Back to school sales are right around the corner!

[TT-SEA]

And the cherry blossoms that you see in Issaquah next week will eventually become the leaves of autumn. Back to school is right around the corner!

 

 

Ahhh... but the spring of 2018 is right around that corner.  

 

And those late January cherry blossoms are still on fully leafed out trees 9 months later.

 

Those daffodils will be flowering in 6 weeks or less.   

[liquidsnow]

Yup, because the blue and greeen is 100% accurate

 

I never said it was 100% accurate you little bugger.

 

The NAM is probably taking into account evaporative cooling and precipitation intensity in Puget Sound. Bellingham gets rain, plain.. old... west ...coast ...pine ...scented ...rain .

[Jesse]

Ahhh... but the spring of 2018 is right around that corner.

 

And those late January cherry blossoms are still on fully leafed out trees 9 months later.

 

Those daffodils will be flowering in 6 weeks or less.

We're alll gonna die someday!!!

[luvssnow_spokane]

We're alll gonna die someday!!!

liar!

[luvssnow_spokane]

Back in Bonney lake to enjoy a proper winter solstice. Pretty frosty out still. Oh how I missed low sun angles.

Welcome home!!!

[TT-SEA]

Back in Bonney lake to enjoy a proper winter solstice. Pretty frosty out still. Oh how I missed low sun angles.

 

 

Its that different between a 19 and 26 degree sun angle?

 

A 26-degree sun angle is not Cabo.   

 

We are back to that level in a few weeks.   

 

You talk about our low sun angle in October being so great and that is higher than 26 degrees.

[Deweydog]

Sun angles have been increasing for like 10 hours now.  

[EA_TTD]

12z ECMWF d10 = hellz yes.

Is that a technical term?

[TT-SEA]

I find the November - January sun angle to be sort of annoying to the eyes since its seemingly blinding you all the time when its sunny.  

 

Unless there is snow on the ground of course... then I embrace the low sun angle.  

[Jesse]

Its that different between a 19 and 26 degree sun angle?

 

A 26-degree sun angle is not Cabo.

 

We are back to that level in a few weeks.

 

You talk about our low sun angle in October being so great and that is higher than 26 degrees.

Spaz alert!

[TT-SEA]

Spaz alert!

 

 

It is sort of interesting to say you so dearly miss a slightly lower sun angle.    Fred is more sensitive to sun angle than maybe anyone.   His own fetish in a forum full of fetishes.      

[Deweydog]

I find the November - January sun angle to be sort of annoying to the eyes since its seemingly blinding you all the time when its sunny.  

 

Unless there is snow on the ground of course... then I embrace the low sun angle.  

 

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[TT-SEA]

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Don't think of sunglasses so much in the winter.   Then you are driving at 2 p.m. and being blinded by a massive ball of light in front you!   Winter sun can seem so much brighter because its in your face rather than over your head.  

[Jesse]

 

It is sort of interesting to say you so dearly miss a slightly lower sun angle. Fred is more sensitive to sun angle than maybe anyone. His own fetish in a forum full of fetishes.

Having the sun angle hang below 20 degrees all day is interesting and not something they experience in the mid-Atlantic.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

No one wants to know about my fetishes

[Deweydog]

Don't think of sunglasses so much in the winter.   Then you are driving at 2 p.m. and being blinded by a massive ball of light in front you!   Winter sun can seem so much brighter because its in your face rather than over your head.  

 

Stab yourself in the eyes with an ice pick and you won't have to worry about it!  

 

Good luck watching snow melt after that, though.  Trade offs...

[Jesse]

No one wants to know about my fetishes

Victoria's Secret models wearing Trump masks?

[TT-SEA]

Having the sun angle hang below 20 degrees all day is interesting and not something they experience in the mid-Atlantic.

 

 

Still sort of a fetish.    Like looking for cherry blossoms in late January.  

 

Its like our early to mid November sun angle there now and I think that is pretty low.  

[BLI snowman]

No one wants to know about my fetishes

 

Stroking an Oregon Ducks themed "Make America Great Again" sign in a cold onshore flow pattern on Winter's Hill.  

[liquidsnow]

The Greatest Forecast Super Model is looking wetter further north. Now do we worry we go too far north?

[Jesse]

Still sort of a fetish. Like looking for cherry blossoms in late January.

 

Its like our early to mid November sun angle there now and I think that is pretty low.

Apparently the cornucopia of blossoms that will be here in a few days don't feel the same way!

[TT-SEA]

The Greatest Forecast Super Model is looking wetter further north. Now do we worry we go too far north?

 

Best run of the best model.   18Z GFS!

[Deweydog]

Block looks stronger at 66 hours.  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Stroking an Oregon Ducks themed "Make America Great Again" sign in a cold onshore flow pattern on Winter's Hill.

This

[BLI snowman]

GFS looks like a fresh warm Christmas Eve dumping of 35 degree liquid poo.

 

1500' snow level.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like all rain though

[liquidsnow]

GFS looks like a fresh warm Christmas Eve dumping of 35 degree liquid poo.

 

1500' snow level.

 

Oh s**t! What a crap run.

 

But I only see green and blue on the map....where's the brown?

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Block looks stronger at 66 hours.  

More masculine.

[BLI snowman]

Oh s**t! What a crap run.

 

But I only see green and blue on the map....where's the brown?

 

We're all a little brown on the inside. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

GFS looks like a fresh warm Christmas Eve dumping of 35 degree liquid poo.

 

1500' snow level.

 

Such a hard call with offshore flow.

[TT-SEA]

Making another run at 50 at SEA.

[BLI snowman]

Such a hard call with offshore flow.

 

It's more of a NW flow, so really just cold maritime air wrapping around the low, no real offshore flow and dry air advection at the midlevels until Sunday and even then it's pretty much just relegated to Bellingham and points northward.

[luvssnow_spokane]

18z is a wonderful cold rain for all and for all a good night... HO HO HO!

[TT-SEA]

It's more of a NW flow, so really just cold maritime air wrapping around the low, no real offshore flow and dry air advection at the midlevels until Sunday and even then it's pretty much just relegated to Bellingham and points northward.

 

 

Does look sort of gunky unless we can get solid clearing on Saturday night.  

[luvssnow_spokane]

In other news my place is up to 53 and climbing... #SpringInDecisWonderful

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

It's more of a NW flow, so really just cold maritime air wrapping around the low, no real offshore flow and dry air advection at the midlevels until Sunday and even then it's pretty much just relegated to Bellingham and points northward.

Looks like some east flow over the cascades also.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

32 at SLE

[liquidsnow]

See this is what happens when you folks complain about cold sunshine. Now we get 35 degree rain!

[MossMan]

So I'm sensing that it would be preferred if the 12z Euro were to verify over the 18z GFS since the Euro is colder starting Friday late afternoon?