Anti Marine Layer Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Looks like marine layer made it all the way into Palmdale this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Some real winter-like conditions in the Sierra w/ reports of snowfall. Cold low over NorCal could result in thunderstorms today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Still had light rain this morning post 11 am. Definitely have a possibility for some record low maximum temperatures today. Last year on this day it was also raining with a 4000 ft deep marine layer and I was driving into Palm Springs. There was no clearing west of the mountains until Cabazon where the dinosaurs are. We also had snow in the Sierras that week just days before an insane heat wave right around the Summer Solstice. So the change of seasons from the chill of winter to the heat of summer can take place in less than a week. Climate change? Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Still had light rain this morning post 11 am. Definitely have a possibility for some record low maximum temperatures today. Last year on this day it was also raining with a 4000 ft deep marine layer and I was driving into Palm Springs. There was no clearing west of the mountains until Cabazon where the dinosaurs are. We also had snow in the Sierras that week just days before an insane heat wave right around the Summer Solstice. So the change of seasons from the chill of winter to the heat of summer can take place in less than a week. Climate change? Probably. That is eerily close to the set-up facing us. These are the days of coolness/ clouds we need before the heat of summer. Nice cumulus overhead currently: 69F An active monsoon would be fun NWS_Las Vegas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Last year had almost no monsoon. With the troughy pattern of the past winter and spring, a strong monsoon is less likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 As of now, Lancaster has marine layer clouds while many coastal areas have cleared out. Reverse clearing at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (.. cross-reference.) http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1546-spring-2017-colder-air-mass-movement-and-distribution-projections/?p=242230 Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (.. cross-reference.) http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1546-spring-2017-colder-air-mass-movement-and-distribution-projections/?p=242230 Richard, radar has been showing lots of activity in your part of the state this afternoon; probably quieting down now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not much of a marine layer left this morning and whatever clouds remain are not in the usual places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareDuck Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not much of a marine layer left this morning and whatever clouds remain are not in the usual places.Good. I was sick of the clouds lasting until mid-late afternoon. Quote Bend, ORElevation: 3550' Snow History:Nov: 1"Dec: .5"Jan: 1.9"Feb: 12.7"Mar: 1.0"Total: 17.1" 2016/2017: 70"2015/2016: 34"Average: ~25" 2017/2018 Winter TempsLowest Min: 1F on 2/23Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22Lows <32: 87Highs <32: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Good. I was sick of the clouds lasting until mid-late afternoon.It shows you are in Oregon. I am in Southern California. Looks a lot like a post winter storm day today with the cloud pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Photos courtesy of NWS_Sacramento from yesterday's thunderstorms/ snowfall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareDuck Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 It shows you are in Oregon. I am in Southern California. Looks a lot like a post winter storm day today with the cloud pattern.I'm in Westlake Village right now. I live in Bend, but I grew up here and my parents still live here. Quote Bend, ORElevation: 3550' Snow History:Nov: 1"Dec: .5"Jan: 1.9"Feb: 12.7"Mar: 1.0"Total: 17.1" 2016/2017: 70"2015/2016: 34"Average: ~25" 2017/2018 Winter TempsLowest Min: 1F on 2/23Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22Lows <32: 87Highs <32: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Clear but cool day at Santa Monica beach today 74/ 56 Rick Dickert/ Channel 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 There was snow last night in the Sierras from Lake Tahoe down to Mammoth. One article talks about Mammoth here, but I would not exactly consider it Southern California. https://la.curbed.com/2017/6/12/15781448/snow-june-mammoth-tahoe According to another long technical article, there has been marine layer snow in Southern California in June, but not this time. https://docs.lib.noaa.gov/noaa_documents/NWS/NWS_WR/TM_NWS_WR_277.pdf In some cases, the inversion base will lift up to just higher than the mountain resorts near 6000 feet, and cool enough for snow to fall out of mainly marine layer moisture. This type of scenario has occurred as late as June. I am ready for some summer weather. I know the people living further inland are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 There was snow last night in the Sierras from Lake Tahoe down to Mammoth. One article talks about Mammoth here, but I would not exactly consider it Southern California. https://la.curbed.com/2017/6/12/15781448/snow-june-mammoth-tahoe According to another long technical article, there has been marine layer snow in Southern California in June, but not this time. https://docs.lib.noaa.gov/noaa_documents/NWS/NWS_WR/TM_NWS_WR_277.pdf I am ready for some summer weather. I know the people living further inland are not. Thanks for the NOAA link; good reading. Some are comparing the current model analysis to June 2008 when we had an 8-day heat wave w/ 3 days 100°+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I don't like sunrise before 6am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I don't like sunrise before 6am. Yes, and if that stupid guy gets his way to end DST in California, we will have sunrise before 5 am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Looks like June Gloom is gone for a while, although if the inversion gets really strong, which it probably will with the heat, beaches could have trouble clearing later this week. Hopefully none of the post-noon or not-at-all inland clearing though. Only a very few patchy low clouds this morning if you were paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Not much to look forward to for a while but generally by the end of June we start getting higher dewpoints/ afternoon build-ups over the mountains. Tuesday: 82/ 57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Not much to look forward to for a while but generally by the end of June we start getting higher dewpoints/ afternoon build-ups over the mountains. Tuesday: 82/ 57 I'm hoping for a more active monsoon season than last year's no-show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Getting hotter out there, but still nothing too extreme today. Sunny mornings in coastal California in June are about as rare as June snow in the Sierras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 NWS_LA is predicting 90's for the next 7 days for my area. It always seems that a trend of cool anomalies during a month is often undone by heatwaves. 88/ 62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 While it gets hot here the next 2 days, an atmospheric River is aimed at the Pacific Northwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 NWS_LA is predicting 90's for the next 7 days for my area. It always seems that a trend of cool anomalies during a month is often undone by heatwaves. 88/ 62 If I remember correctly, most of the spring including the first half of June 2006 was quite cool, then the second half of June turned hot, which led to the extremely hot and humid July that featured a good deal of monsoon moisture. There was a thunderstorm at my house here in Orange late that July that brought about 1/3" of rain, with thunder so loud that it set off the car alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 If I remember correctly, most of the spring including the first half of June 2006 was quite cool, then the second half of June turned hot, which led to the extremely hot and humid July that featured a good deal of monsoon moisture. There was a thunderstorm at my house here in Orange late that July that brought about 1/3" of rain, with thunder so loud that it set off the car alarm. You're referring to the killer summer: How can I forget it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_American_heat_wave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Cold area of sea surface temperatures off Baja Coast and north of Pt. Conception while most of Southern California is warmer due to the turn in the coast at Pt. Conception blocking the main influence of the California Current and the lack of upwelling due to Catalina Eddy. Not sure what is causing the colder pocket of water just south of the border. http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/contour/californ.cf.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 That is on the Davidson current heading our way, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 NWS_Phoenix: "Taking a look at the weather pattern during our 10 hottest days since 1948 for Phoenix, on average, 500 mb heights were around 597 dm and 700/850 mb temps were near 15/31 degrees respectively. Therefore, there is absolutely no doubt we will be near all time highs with this heat wave, with the hottest and most dangerous temperatures expected Monday through Wednesday. These unseasonably hot temperatures will bring moderate to high, and locally very high, heat risk to the region. This type of heat should be taken extremely serious!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Palm Springs is only 107 now. Been much hotter there before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 No wonder Santa Maria is not getting much affected by this heat wave. http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2017/anomnight.6.15.2017.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 It doesn't seem that SST are cooler than average along SoCal coast [65-70F]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Could reach 120F at Lake Havasu City, Arizona on Tuesday and Wednesday. The all time record high for Lake Havasu City, AZ is 128F which occurred on June 29th, 1994. http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/weather/186155d1497578024-summer-thread-2017-northern-hemisphere-lakehavasucitywx.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 7AM temp already 75F in nearby San Rafael Hills. Summers are getting warmer per Climate Central Thursday: 90/ 63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 7AM temp already 75F in nearby San Rafael Hills. Summers are getting warmer per Climate Central Thursday: 90/ 63 In general they are, but not everywhere http://www.sfgate.com/weather/article/Fogust-Coldest-August-in-74-years-for-San-9197715.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 It has already exceeded yesterday's max; NWS_LA underestimated forecast. 91° Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 This could be a repeat of last June except slightly cooler heatwave compared to the triple digits: 6/19-20/16 produced 105/ 108° Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Summer Solstice is next Tuesday, but sunrise times are already starting to get a few seconds later each day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I can live with this kind of heat so long as it stays under 95°. Dew points are high especially in NorCal. The Central Valley is going to be miserable for days. 92/ 66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 San Diego reached 83 today, but Fullerton only hit 88. They would normally be in the mid 90s any time San Diego goes over 80 in June. Atmospheric River continues over the Pacific Northwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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