Tom Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 After some mid range inconsistencies, the models are now beginning to target another favorable "cutter" storm track for our MW/GL's posters. The month of November is opening up tremendously busy, with systems each and every other day, but the 3rd, in a series of systems is likely to pack the biggest punch. Overnight 00z EPS actually shifted a tad SE with its ensemble members and takes the mean track right across IL/IN/MN. 00z GEFS take the mean across W IL/S WI. Are we going to see the November Gales prevail??? Could some members see their first snowfall??? Let's discuss.... I'm encouraged to see systems this season digging into the deep southern Plains and cutting up towards the GL's putting a lot of us near the active storm track which has been setting up this Autumn. Some of the 00z GEFS members are showing some backwash snow across the MW. If the trends continue to show a deepening storm, I wouldn't doubt seeing more wintry precip in future runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Second Season of Severe wx is likely to continue down in the deep south as I'm sure this risk area will be heightened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 This is taking what would normally be a perfect track in the Winter for here, on Euro at least. Low going right over KC/St. Joe. Hopefully we can get some more moisture with this when it's down here. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 @ GEFS loop Certainly looks like it wants to go bigly on pressure falls & geography coverage when it arrives in the UP. Will be nice to get some wind headlines and a great sign for the Nov/Jan correlation I posted on earlier. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Now the model trend is take the low a bit farther east and delay the rev-up again. The FV3-GFS barely has any precip here and the euro just cut our precip quite a bit. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Gary Lezak mentioned that the Euro is consistent with the GFS and GFS-3 on significant snow in the KC area next week. Does anyone happen to have that map? Thanks!That’s the next storm which has been showing up on the models today following this storm. What a freakin’ pattern! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 That’s the next storm which has been showing up on the models today following this storm. What a freakin’ pattern!What are your thoughts on the Euro today Tom? It was showing what appeared to be a quick return to normal, but I didn’t see then EPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 What are your thoughts on the Euro today Tom? It was showing what appeared to be a quick return to normal, but I didn’t see then EPS!Not worried at all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 That’s the next storm which has been showing up on the models today following this storm. What a freakin’ pattern! If that storm pans out, it would be more snow than I have had the last 2 years combined. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Farmers here had better hurry up and finish harvesting. Between the rain from this storm and the potential snow next Friday this may be the last chance for a while. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 @ GEFS loop Certainly looks like it wants to go bigly on pressure falls & geography coverage when it arrives in the UP. Will be nice to get some wind headlines and a great sign for the Nov/Jan correlation I posted on earlier. This would do it.. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 2m temps basically stuck in the teens and 20s here for the foreseeable future after this storm. Time to saddle up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 2m temps basically stuck in the teens and 20s here for the foreseeable future after this storm. Time to saddle up.Stock up on firewood... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 This would do it.. 20181102 12z gFS_mslp&hPa_114.png Then Euro wants to "double-down" with yet another GL's bomb. Showing 30+ between the two systems for parts of the U.P. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 yikes.gif yikes.gif Then Euro wants to "double-down" with yet another GL's bomb. Showing 30+ between the two systems for parts of the U.P. 20181102 12z Euro for Nov09.pngAre you ready buddy!!?? Looks like it's time for kickoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 Are you ready buddy!!?? Looks like it's time for kickoff. I'm ready to kickoff the most impressive November of my adult life! I wish I could plan an intercept somewhere along the Superior shoreline or Huron Mtn's. Back in early Dec '07 I did such a chase and wasn't disappointed. It wasn't forecast to be a huge system but I did catch near blizzard conditions just across the Big Mack bridge. It's amazing how intense those winds were in the Straights area. These were actually SE winds as a WF plowed eastward into stubborn cold dome in Ontario. We got 7" in about 6 or 7 hrs iirc. Gaylord in the highlands had a solid 10" with about 14" OTG as I passed thru coming home that weekend. That and my Nov '89 deer camp bliz bomb are my two early season rendezvous in NMI. That one chased me, lol, as I was in no way expecting a snowstorm, let alone a full-on blizzard. Back then, we hadn't a clue of the potential. It was 70F a couple days before across SMI. Little did I know that 0F air was lurking just north of Superior. Ma Nature decided to mix it up and the rest is legendary for those of us who experienced it firsthand. 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 I'm ready to kickoff the most impressive November of my adult life! My friend, I cannot wait to read about this month as we go through it. It looks like the GFS is sorting out some November magic for me as we speak. I'm just tickled to death to be pretty much watching 3 months of words an prognostications, forecasts and patience actually be showing up for real. I'm excited for you and for all of us! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 Even though this system doesn't look like it will produce much wintry precip, I'm still very interested where this storm tracks, intensifies, begins going neg tilt, how the models handle the blocking, etc as we continue to figure out this overwhelmingly exciting pattern. FWIW, the 00z EPS ticked SE and now the model is taking the mean SLP track thru S IL/C IN/S MI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 This system is no longer looking like much for Iowa... just light rain and some wind. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 Yeah, looks like a light rainer for here. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerf Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 Thursday/Friday system looking better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 Thursday/Friday system looking betterI'm thinking about starting a thread on that one after the 12Z runs if GFS picks it back up. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Quieter than a morgue in here. Have we been dealt our first model "now you see it, now you don't" tease, or did we just run afoul of the marginal cold season. Haha, maybe the models forgot to check which month it was, and then suddenly spread the word that it's only first week of November! Most have tampered every single potential they were flashing yesterday - sigh.. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 First and final call: a few wet snowflakes here on the backside of the low. Next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 This system has been quite a severe wx threat down near the Gulf states. Numerous storm reports and a few isolated tornadoes ripped through AL & MS. It's to bad this system couldn't phase early enough to produce a stronger storm around here, but nonetheless, its another large scale storm system impacting the MW/GL's region as the cyclical pattern continues to show promising signs going forward. On a side note, I like how this storm has slowed down and is pivoting across the GL's. Nice looking radar both yesterday and today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Wrong map link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Wrong map linkIt’s the right one but I noticed when you copy and paste the graphic, it will automatically update itself when it updates on the website you took it from. I should have saved the image and then uploaded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Rain has flipped to snow here. Currently 35F 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 991 mb's so right on target with GEM's forecast. Currently SW gusts to 36 mph in both Marshall and Jackson. Radar says this would be a LES bliz if it were winter. Hopefully this comes back later. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 "Secure your election signs..or just let 'em blow away and be done with it." 1115 AM EST Tue Nov 6 2018 /1015 AM CST Tue Nov 6 2018/ ...Strong Winds Today... West winds will gust to around 35 to 40 mph through mid afternoon, with occasional gusts to 45 mph. Winds this strong may result in difficult travel for high profile vehicles, especially on north to south oriented roads. Lightweight objects may blow around if not secured. Use caution if traveling today and secure any outdoor objects. Winds will gradually subside after 4 PM EST /3 PM CST/. $$ Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Wow, another LERn streamer along 94 corridor. The low baro combined with good winds and lots of RH. This would've been a dream scenario for W Michigan. I've zero doubt many counties would've scored bliz conditions and/or warnings in winter. They would be continuing into the night or at least Storm Warnings would be. can't wait to see this re-visit later on. This is not unlike the Feb '86 system that brought 24" to Battle Creek. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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