I guarantee you people would have had the forks out in 1988 at this point. That was a painfully boring autumn.

Eh. We can do as well as DC a lot of times.

People were talking like this in 2008 right about now. Just pointless this early in the season.

to your credit, I remember Phil complaining once that it had been a whole week since DC saw its last freeze. If Phil spent a winter in Seattle or Portland he'd probably go 2010 Tim/2021 Jesse by February.

Everyone always talks about wind reversals at the mid levels though. We didn't have that...at least it wasn't shown on the models. Normally I am great with this east wind stuff, but this one was different than any in the 24 years I've lived here. The flow was SE aloft and east at the surface that is not a reversal. How were the winds SW at the surface with an easterly surface gradient? People make it sound this is so obvious and it's not.