OKwx2k4 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Who knows...... Last winter it ended up being pretty spot on in the upper midwest at leastLol. Maybe if I start talking smack about it again it will go 2 for 2. I definitely wouldn't mind a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Can't wait for the thunderstorms on Sunday! Might have to dodge lightning while I'm up on the ladder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Several people I have read and a couple I have talked to have said about some of my worries over the Pacific, that it is a textbook precursor to a pure and long duration arctic outbreak. If I'd have followed my top analogs forward correctly I would have already known that. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Several people I have read and a couple I have talked to have said about some of my worries over the Pacific, that it is a textbook precursor to a pure and long duration arctic outbreak. If I'd have followed my top analogs forward correctly I would have already known that. LolJust look at that monster Bearing Sea/Alaskan ridge poking into the Arctic...that's going to be one hellova Split Flow over the NE PAC...trough NW of Hawaii is reminiscent of that "70's show".... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/cfs-avg/2016112406/cfs-avg_z500aMean_npac_4.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/cfs-avg/2016112406/cfs-avg_z500aMean_npac_5.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Does that mean we get a monster bombing phaser later this season? Please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Nice to see southern Canada rebuilding its snow base so when the Arctic air hits, it can hold onto it...   http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_alaska.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 That system on Day 10 is looking better and better. Has been consistent for a system so far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 GEFS 00z edition. Not as horrible as I thought they would be. gefs_snow_ens_east_65.png Ummmm....e2 PLEASE! JMA Weeklies lining up almost exactly like the CFSv2 weeklies...this would be a winter lovers dream...both models see the trough diving into the west, blocking near Hudson bay and Greenland, jet under cutting the NE PAC ridge during Week's 1 & 2...then Week 3 & 4 it continues with the Greenland Block, but the entire pattern over N.A. may really amplify to the extreme it can go to. Nice to see southern Canada rebuilding its snow base so when the Arctic air hits, it can hold onto it...   http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_alaska.gif This is actually all lining up (playing out) really nicely for winter to set in around Dec 10th and perhaps rock the last 2/3rds of the month. I'm expectant again, LOL Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Unfortunately the system for early next week looked great on all models too about 10 days out and we know how that has changed. Hopefully one of these times it'll be right That system on Day 10 is looking better and better. Has been consistent for a system so far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 That system on Day 10 is looking better and better. Has been consistent for a system so far away.Indeed, once that trough becomes established and cold air penetrating south into the lower 48, could be the big storm that unloads the arctic hounds into the central/western CONUS. Precip and Temp Anomalies looking good for some deep snow down south...  http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112412/gfs-ens_apcpna_us_9.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112412/gfs-ens_T2maMean_us_11.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112412/gfs-ens_T2m_us_62.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Indeed, once that trough becomes established and cold air penetrating south into the lower 48, could be the big storm that unloads the arctic hounds into the central/western CONUS. Precip and Temp Anomalies looking good for some deep snow down south...  http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112412/gfs-ens_apcpna_us_9.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112412/gfs-ens_T2maMean_us_11.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112412/gfs-ens_T2m_us_62.pngNot too shabby. Here's hoping it doesn't disappear before then. Every run adds another member or 2 that pulls the cold air in down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Not too shabby. Here's hoping it doesn't disappear before then. Every run adds another member or 2 that pulls the cold air in down here.I really believe there will be a storm around your region as it fits the pattern. Â Just really hope this can turn into a wound up, comma shape, true winter storm that can share the wealth and finally lay down a decent snow cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Â Â 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)Â Â Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)Â Â Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9Â Dec: 7.5Â Jan: 31.7 Feb:Â 6.0 Mar: 4.3Â Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2"Â (Harrison):Â 2023-24 = 53.1"Â Avg = 45.0"Â (KDTW):Â 2022-23 = 33.5"Â Â 2021-22 = 35.6"Â Â Â Â Avg = 49.7"Â (KRMY):Â 2020-21 = 36.2"Â Â 2019-20 = 48.0"Â Â 2018-19 =Â 56.1"Â Â 2017-18 =Â 68.3"Â Â Â 2016-17 =Â 52"Â Â Â 2015-16 =Â 57.4"Â Â Â 2014-15 =Â 55.3"Â Â Â 2013-14 =Â 100.6"Â (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)Â Â 2012-13 =Â 47.2"Â Â Â 2011-12 =Â 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I like the way this sounds   Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Saw a met post this regarding the latest JMA Weeklies and how they resemble Dec '83 over the next month...might not be to that extreme, I think we will see model volatility going forward.  I find that when models begin to see a hint of an extreme shift in the pattern, esp over N.A., as we start getting closer modeling flip flops.There is another burst in SSW taking place at 30mb and the MJO forecasts are for it to trend into Phase 1 to open Dec and maybe into the "Null" phase.  N    Day 6, GFS showing the Siberian High blossing... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_a_f/gif_files/gfs_t10_nh_f168.png  Day 10... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_a_f/gif_files/gfs_t10_nh_f240.png http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/clisys/STRAT/gif/pole30_nh.gif   The coldest air of the season will bleed across the Pole into N.A. over the next 7-10 days.  I can't see how this won't help the lower 48 get into a wintry pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Several people I have read and a couple I have talked to have said about some of my worries over the Pacific, that it is a textbook precursor to a pure and long duration arctic outbreak. If I'd have followed my top analogs forward correctly I would have already known that. Lol And it apparently is not just you questioning it, but appears to maybe fly in the face of the vaunted BSR?? grace posted:  1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 @ Tom Lookin' good buddy! Now u gotta get home and decorate your place for holiday CHEERS! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Ha! The 06Z GFS now doesn't even have a storm next weekend. The next big storm is..... 12/8 so only 2 weeks away. The GFS led the way on this cut off low crap we're going to get the beginning of the week, we'll see if it's on to something else now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Right around the 8th of Dec, the coldest anomalies relative to avg begin to shift into N.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 And it apparently is not just you questioning it, but appears to maybe fly in the face of the vaunted BSR?? grace posted: 20161125 grace post on bsr.PNGThere's just some weird stuff going on right now for sure. What's funny though, right now, is that the Euro is still a massive outlier even going beyond day 5. It doesn't really know what to do after the block over the Pacific relaxes and drifts back east. I'm riding a blend of the GFS, GEFS, and CFS going through the next 2 weeks. They have been dominating in the stratosphere and mjo forecasts for 2 months solid now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 There's just some weird stuff going on right now for sure. What's funny though, right now, is that the Euro is still a massive outlier even going beyond day 5. It doesn't really know what to do after the block over the Pacific relaxes and drifts back east. I'm riding a blend of the GFS, GEFS, and CFS going through the next 2 weeks. They have been dominating in the stratosphere and mjo forecasts for 2 months solid now.Very true, those models have been dominating, even JB brought up how the Euro has been horrible beyond Day 10 (criticizing his fav model). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Very true, those models have been dominating, even JB brought up how the Euro has been horrible beyond Day 10 (criticizing his fav model).The last 8 or so weeklies I have seen just keep kicking the same pattern out but moving it back a week. That's why they have really become not worth making mention of like I normally would. Is the image you posted above the Euro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 The last 8 or so weeklies I have seen just keep kicking the same pattern out but moving it back a week. That's why they have really become not worth making mention of like I normally would.Is the image you posted above the Euro?No, it was the GEFS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hard to get.excited when nothing of substance get inside of 10-12 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hard to get.excited when nothing of substance get inside of 10-12 days. Come on man!  You get wind  Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Wind and soil moisture!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016  The Crank had some good reminders on model grasping beyond a few days, and this one about what happened to a fantasy storm for this period:    On a more humorous note, this from Juneau, AK's recent AFD I found hilarious      4 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 The Crank had some good reminders on model grasping beyond a few days, and this one about what happened to a fantasy storm for this period: 20161125 Crank post on model overamplification.PNG  On a more humorous note, this from Juneau, AK's recent AFD I found hilarious  20161125 NWS Juneau AK afd.PNGBest model description ever. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Accu-weather has December quite cold with some snowfor the midwest. Now lets see how that goes . Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 We need to have white ground in December to get into the holiday spirit. I feel confident we will, especially, near and around the Great Lakes region. It will all start in December. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I"m going to start a December thread... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 It's depressing to keep seeing 16 day forecasts on the GFS that literally show no snow for eastern Nebraska. Maybe Jim's forecast of a snowy December is going to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 It's interesting looking at the 2m temp anomalies over Hudson Bay and S/SE Canada after the 8th, the model may be keeping a warm bias due to the abnormally warm waters, as well as near the Great Lakes. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112600/gfs-ens_T2ma_namer_52.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112600/gfs-ens_T2ma_namer_65.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Gary Lezak mentioned that in the LRC pattern, there are "harmonic" mini cycles within the entire LRC pattern cycle.  I think one feature is showing up and it's the cut-off low which is forecast to sit and spin near the 4 corners Dec 2-5th.  Coincidentally, I remember this storm very well as I drove through it coming here from Chicago.  This energy then ejected out into the Plains states with lots of moisture back on Nov 2-5th which lacked cold air.  I know this is still 7-10 days away, but with arctic air on the horizon and eyes for the lower 48, this could be a potential set up for a wintry system during the opening week of December. In the meantime, we need to see what happens with the large ULL that is forecast to spin over the Upper Midwest/Great Lakes this week before the models get a good handle on this energy and the driving northern branch coming out of Canada in early December.  How and when these pieces interact will be the question over the coming days. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016112606/gfs_z500_vort_us_41.png   http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016112606/gfs_z500_vort_us_43.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I"m going to start a December thread...  Peek-a-boo  looks like somebody beat you to that.. http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1453-december-2016-discussion/  This was from the tail end of their video of the recent NY storm. This was my December commute in the north-lands circa 1995. Fond memories I'll keep of a region where winter looks so pristine most of the time with frequent LES. Dec of '92 we actually had measurable snow 30/31 days in Traverse City.   Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Peek-a-boo looks like somebody beat you to that.. http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1453-december-2016-discussion/  This was from the tail end of their video of the recent NY storm. This was my December commute in the north-lands circa 1995. Fond memories I'll keep of a region where winter looks so pristine most of the time with frequent LES. Dec of '92 we actually had measurable snow 30/31 days in Traverse City. 20161126 ABC news vid on NY LES storm.PNGOne of my top 3 favorite things in nature is seeing pure, untouched snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 I think after next week, things will get active weatherwise, in terms of snowfall and colder temps. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 12z GEPS seeing the CO Low Day 9-10.... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem-ens/2016112712/gem-ens_mslpa_us_37.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem-ens/2016112712/gem-ens_mslpa_us_42.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 12z EPS agreeing with the JMA on track... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2016112712/ecmwf-ens_mslpa_us_8.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2016112712/ecmwf-ens_mslpa_us_9.png  http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2016112712/ecmwf-ens_T850_mslp_us_9.png   Interesting suite of runs today and it's ensemble packages...guess this pattern may begin to show signs of life... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 12z EPS also seeing the CO Low Day 10 with loads of arctic air creeping south... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2016112712/ecmwf-ens_mslpa_us_11.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2016112712/ecmwf-ens_T850_mslp_us_11.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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