luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hour 36 of the NAM wants to keep Oregon's upper levels a little cooler... Baby steps Current Run Previous Run 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 The Nam takes the low inland south of the Oregon/California border. Hmmm, seems to have a slightly better track as it moves inland... Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hour 36 of the NAM wants to keep Oregon's upper levels a little cooler... Baby steps Current Runnam_T850_us_13.png Previous Runnam_T850_us_21.png Yeah, I noticed that it gives more snow on the Oregon beaches this run because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, I noticed that it gives more snow on the Oregon beaches this run because of that. Yes, much better chance for snow in Southern and central Oregon. Might be a little sloppy and transitional at times but a slightly better outcome for some. Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Imagine the carnage if this forum also had a "dislike" button. Let's give it a shot and see how it goes!*SorryYou have reached your quota of dislikes for the day * 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 NAM keeping it still much cooler for all at hour 48... Northern branch puts up a fight. CURRENT 12z PREVIOUS RUN 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 NAM keeping it still much cooler for all at hour 42... Northern branch puts up a fight.Could it be a sign that the big 3 do the same tonight for the 00z's??? Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Could it be a sign that the big 3 do the same tonight for the 00z's???Possibly... I will take any improvement but it is still a long shot. The big picture is still very iffy. 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Possibly... I will take any improvement but it is still a long shot. The big picture is still very iffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Today's weekly ensembles are extremely ridgy after day 24. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Today's weekly ensembles are extremely ridgy after day 24.Ridge placement? Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Today's weekly ensembles are extremely ridgy after day 24. Warm February? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardDrinkinLincoln Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Here is 5 am on 1/18/2012 in Vernonia getting ready for work. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Imagine the carnage if this forum also had a "dislike" button. Let's give it a shot and see how it goes!It has one. Click "Like" on a post, then hit "unlike". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 For what it's worth.Wiki gives 5.1" for 1971-2000 in Corvallis and 4.3" for Portland from 1981-2010, so a 20% increase but with a better time for Corvallis. I'm guessing the average for most of southern Willamette valley is 3" if they are right by the river, so it could be one of the better locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Warm February?Yes, but it's the weeklies. They are really unreliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hmmm, seems to have a slightly better track as it moves inland... Hi-Res doesn't look great. Maybe some flurries north of Albany. The problem is that the low tracks straight E and then SE, if it tracked NE we'd get wrap around. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Kinda cool to see the north/south battle... Nice little lineup of low pressures systems on either side. 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Kinda cool to see the north/south battle... Nice little lineup of low pressures systems on either side. nam_T850_namer_25.pngSo much cold air up there...so close to epic Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hi-Res doesn't look great. Maybe some flurries north of Albany. The problem is that the low tracks straight E and then SE, if it tracked NE we'd get wrap around. Yeah, later hours track is still not favorable. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I wondered about Monroe. Very small town. But yeah they are RIGHT up against the coast range. Another thing I would mention is that by long term average PDX, SLE, and EUG average similar annual amounts of snow, but SLE and EUG do well in much different scenarios than PDX. So a lot of times a big snow storm in EUG and Salem are just not great snow patterns for PDX. That late January 2008 storm in Eugene is a great example, or March 2012, or 12/29/03. But PDX does great with outflow events. They owned EUG and did better than SLE in Dec. 08, January 1998 was a nightmare for me, I didn't see 1 snowflake while PDX got buried. Over time it evens out. But a lot of times if its not snowing at your house, but it is 40-50 miles away you notice, on the flip side if it is snowing at your house and not in some town an hour down the road you don't notice. Neither Salem or Eugene had snow on 1-3-16.The Portland area also has a safely higher snowfall median than the valley, since the gorge generally is a safer bet to generate regular snow producers while the valley relies more on strong upper level events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 If you look at hour 84 of the NAM there is Low and some very cold air wanting to spill out over the pacific and slide toward the PNW... Southern stream seems more suppressed... Not sure it means much though. nam_T850_namer_29.png Well the other models have been kind of cutting that low off instead of digging it. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 The Portland area also has a safely higher snowfall median than the valley, since the gorge generally is a safer bet to generate regular snow producers while the valley relies more on strong upper level events. Growing up the only real major event I can recall missing out on at PDX was January 1998, but there were definitely some smaller events where PDX got snow and we didn't like February 94 and December 98. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skier B Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 That 3 inches fell on an area the size of Burien. Our location in Burien received 5". Still have over 3" of dry, powdery snow! Elevation is 380'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 For what it's worth.Wiki gives 5.1" for 1971-2000 in Corvallis and 4.3" for Portland from 1981-2010, so a 20% increase but with a better time for Corvallis. I'm guessing the average for most of southern Willamette valley is 3" if they are right by the river, so it could be one of the better locations.The NWS has a 4.9" average for Eugene, but the records are all screwed up since about 1995. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/eugclimate/pg83.pdf Corvallis obs have been a mess for a while as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Snow Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 For what it's worth.Wiki gives 5.1" for 1971-2000 in Corvallis and 4.3" for Portland from 1981-2010, so a 20% increase but with a better time for Corvallis. I'm guessing the average for most of southern Willamette valley is 3" if they are right by the river, so it could be one of the better locations.Corvallis shows more snow there because it includes 1971-1980 and PDX doesn't which was a snowier decade. Its pretty much a linear trend. The farther north you are in the I-5 corridor, the more snow you will get than somebody south of you at the same elevation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Growing up the only real major event I can recall missing out on at PDX was January 1998, but there were definitely some smaller events where PDX got snow and we didn't like February 94 and December 98.January 1980 was the all-timer. 24-30" across the north and eastern parts of the Portland metro, while the north valley had an inch or so of slop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 It has one. Click "Like" on a post, then hit "unlike".That is true, but you can't accumulate dislikes. Similarly, you can't accumulate snow down here in Eugene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Corvallis shows more snow there because it includes 1971-1980 and PDX doesn't which was a snowier decade. Its pretty much a linear trend. The farther north you are in the I-5 corridor, the more snow you will get than somebody south of you at the same elevation. Eugene is 400', PDX is 30' Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 in Puyallup?! Is that an error? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Eugene is 400', PDX is 30'Come on man! We're talking about Eugene here. It is 420'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 in Puyallup?! Is that an error?PuyallupJon must have gotten his new mercury thermometer online!! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 in Puyallup?! Is that an error?Puyallup gets cold, they just get shadowed quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Down to 23 with a DP of 13. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Snow Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Eugene is 400', PDX is 30'Yeah but in general, YVR gets more snow than SEA, SEA gets more snow than PDX, PDX more than SLE and SLE more than Eugene even taking into account the elevation discrepancies. Locations closer together like Salem and Corvallis might be different story if you live at a higher elevation in Corvallis. Then you might get more snow there than in SLE like in February 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah but in general, YVR gets more snow than SEA, SEA gets more snow than PDX, PDX more than SLE and SLE more than Eugene even taking into account the elevation discrepancies. Locations closer together like Salem and Corvallis might be different story if you live at a higher elevation in Corvallis. Then you might get more snow there than in SLE like in February 2014. Yes generally true. Medford is close to Tim's elevation and gets about 5" of snow a year. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Snow Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Come on man! We're talking about Eugene here. It is 420'.I didnt know Eugene was actually that high up there. I always thought the lowest parts of the Willamette Valley were close to sea level because of the Willamette River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I didnt know Eugene was actually that high up there. I always thought the lowest parts of the Willamette Valley were close to sea level because of the Willamette River. Rivers flow downhill...So river level at Eugene is about 400'. 110 miles north at Portland it is near Sea Level. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 00z GFS is running!!! 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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