TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Pleasant with the occasional light breeze. 59 in Springfield. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Thank god lol... you should know me enough by now, let it ride brother, let it ride!Shhhh!! Don't mention Let it Ride. He lost a lot of money playing it one time and on that wet and rainy night, Tim's spirit was broken. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Stop taking that post out of context. I said **IF MODELS ARE CORRECT**. Which they weren’t. That was based ECMWF meteograms for Seattle running out 10 days. I never predicted anything like that. The model solutions change quite a bit once out that far. I hope you enjoy getting rained out on the 4th of July. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Two weeks of troughing coming, Tim. By the time it finishes up, it will be a month past the solstice. Days will be rapidly shortening. Then 2 weeks later it will be August, which will have troughy periods much like this month. Then the leaves will start turning, and summer will be history. Then you have 9 months of rain to look forward to. Lol. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Petty!And he’s taking it completely out of context as well. I didn’t actually predict that. I was just reading the model output for Seattle, which ended up being incorrect. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 MSU's long term average is 7.5/year. PDX's is 11.5. There you go. In addition, PDX has greater top end heat capability. Bozeman MSU has never measured temps over 100 degrees (1892 had some obviously wonky issues and can be thrown out). I actually checked the numbers. The running 30 year average is about 13 days for MSU and 14 days for PDX. So yeah, virtually identical although PDX is higher. With the caveat that MSU has a higher average high in July and August and as soon as you venture literally a couple miles away from that station the 90+ numbers jump dramatically, whereas no such phenomenon exists around Portland. So yeah, it's kinda silly to act like Portland really beats out Bozeman on heat. There are a large number of summers where it's actually quite noticeably hotter out in Montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Two weeks of troughing coming, Tim. By the time it finishes up, it will be a month past the solstice. Days will be rapidly shortening. Then 2 weeks later it will be August, which will have troughy periods much like this month. Then the leaves will start turning, and summer will be history. Then you have 9 months of rain to look forward to. Lol. And then we die! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 And he’s taking it completely out of context as well. I didn’t actually predict that. I was just reading the model output for Seattle, which ended up being incorrect.Just saying it spoke volumes of your lack of local knowledge. I remember this pretty well and nothing on those runs had anything remotely close to showing a -10 depature over the course of 240 hours. It was sensational Phil at his best (worst). 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Stop taking that post out of context. I said **IF MODELS ARE CORRECT**. Which they weren’t. That was based ECMWF meteograms for Seattle running out 10 days. I never predicted anything like that. The model solutions change quite a bit once out that far. I hope you enjoy getting rained out on the 4th of July. The models don't show rain for the 4th of July. And if they do show rain... we will be on the sunny, warm side of the state anyways! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Did I say scary? I said it ironic that it meanders up there for days looking like nothing and then suddenly comes to life and springs into action on cue just in time for the 4th of July. It's sort of comical. Who cares? The weather looks to remain pleasant and completely inconsequential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Who cares? The weather looks to remain pleasant and completely inconsequential. Easy down there... its always nice and never rains. More complicated up here in the Seattle area. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just saying it spoke volumes of your lack of local knowledge. I remember this pretty well and nothing on those runs had anything remotely close to showing a -10 depature over the course of 240 hours. It was sensational Phil at his best (worst).Well then you’re remembering it wrong, because I was reading right from the modeled surface temperature anomalies on WxBell. That much I remember clearly. I never predicted it would happen. That would be silly. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Glad to see the models have retained their generally troughy look during my absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 But by all means, keep peddling fictitious gobbeldygook if it makes you feel intellectually potent. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Well then you’re remembering it wrong, because I was reading right from the modeled surface temperature anomalies on WxBell. That much I remember clearly. I never predicted it would happen. That would be silly. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Easy down there... its always nice and never rains. More complicated up here in the Seattle area. SEA has had less rain this month than PDX or VUO. OLM, BFI, TCM, and RNT are all under an inch as well. Renton is actually the driest spot at 0.48", after a May which featured less than a tenth of an inch there. Even the "wet" stations like the NWS Office at Sandpoint and Everett's airport have had less than 2" of rain this month. So basically at their average. The places where the majority of people actually live haven't had much to write home about in the rain department. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 The 594dm eagle eyes are back! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Easy down there... its always nice and never rains. More complicated up here in the Seattle area.Living in a wet microclimate in the drizzle capital of the country = your choice. Don’t expect anyone to modify their wx-desires to appease your mildewy, rain-soaked psyche. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Living in a wet microclimate in the drizzle capital of the country = your choice. Don’t expect anyone to modify their wx-desires to appease your mildewy, rain-soaked psyche.What are you on lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 SEA has had less rain this month than PDX or VUO. OLM, BFI, TCM, and RNT are all under an inch as well. Renton is actually the driest spot at 0.48", after a May which featured less than a tenth of an inch there. Even the "wet" stations like the NWS Office at Sandpoint and Everett's airport have had less than 2" of rain this month. So basically at their average. The places where the majority of people actually live haven't had much to write home about in the rain department. TRUTH BOMB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 SEA has had less rain this month than PDX or VUO. OLM, BFI, TCM, and RNT are all under an inch as well. Renton is actually the driest spot at 0.48", after a May which featured less than a tenth of an inch there. Even the "wet" stations like the NWS Office at Sandpoint and Everett's airport have had less than 2" of rain this month. So basically at their average. The places where the majority of people actually live haven't had much to write home about in the rain department.Much easier to get nice weather down there in marginal troughy situations than in the Seattle area... being farther north and in the c-zone being the reasons why of course. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 What are you on lately?Ambien. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Living in a wet microclimate in the drizzle capital of the country = your choice. Don’t expect anyone to modify their wx-desires to appease your mildewy, rain-soaked psyche.And you apparently live in hell... by choice! There are lots of us up here cheering for nice weather. Probably millions of us actually. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Ambien.And the nightly hot-box right? What kind of car(s) do you have? 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 And you apparently live in hell... by choice! There are lots of us up here cheering for nice weather. Probably millions of us actually. All everyone I have talked to about the weather has said is how amazed they are that the wildfire season is already starting and how badly we need rain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Much easier to get nice weather down there in marginal troughy situations than in the Seattle area... being farther north and in the c-zone being the reasons why of course. Seattle, the biggest city in the region, is usually going to do just fine in those, hence their low rain numbers. They can't help the fact that some people choose to live in the foothills immediately down wind of the convergence zone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 All everyone I have talked to about the weather has said is how amazed they are that the wildfire season is already starting and how badly we need rain. Anecdotal evidence! No fires up here... way too wet. And everyone I talked to about the weather up here says they want warmth and sun. Nobody is talking about fires or wanting rain. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Anecdotal evidence! No fires up here... way too wet. And everyone I talked to about the weather up here says they want warmth and sun. Nobody is talking about fires or wanting rain.Already several fires burning in both Oregon and Washington. Just crazy to see start it so early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Much easier to get nice weather down there in marginal troughy situations than in the Seattle area... being farther north and in the c-zone being the reasons why of course.You and moldman live in pretty wet microclimates. And despite that it has even been a very dry month for you two as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Seattle, the biggest city in the region, is usually going to do just fine in those, hence their low rain numbers. They can't help the fact that some people choose to live in the foothills immediately down wind of the convergence zone. No... there is big difference. Portland is just nicer in troughy summer patterns overall. This evening was good example. The Seattle area was cloudy and a little windy with a c-zone signature while Portland was sunny and pleasant. We are talking from different perspectives. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 4th of July per the 00Z ECMWF... quite nice. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 No... there is big difference. Portland is just nicer in troughy summer patterns overall. This evening was good example. The Seattle area was very cloudy and a little windy with a c-zone signature while Portland was sunny and pleasant. We are talking from different perspectives. PDX's weather today: 72/59 with 0.02" of quick morning rain and partial cloudiness most of the daySEA's weather today: 71/55 with 0.13" of quick morning rain and partial cloudiness most of the day Pretty unremarkable differences. Foothill microclimates notwithstanding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 PDX's weather today: 72/59 with 0.02" of quick morning rain and partial cloudiness most of the daySEA's weather today: 71/55 with 0.13" of quick morning rain and partial cloudiness most of the day Pretty unremarkable differences. I watch this all the time... there is a difference and its obviously reflected in the averages. The c-zone is clearly the main culprit in the Central Sound because Vancouver Island is also very sunny. I would not even follow it that closely if I lived in Victoria or Portland because its almost always nice in the summer regardless of the pattern. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 00Z ECMWF shows some July 5th rain for both Portland and Seattle... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I watch this all the time... there is a difference and its obviously reflected in the averages. The c-zone is clearly the main culprit in the Central Sound because Vancouver Island is also very sunny. I would not even follow it that closely if I lived in Victoria or Portland because its almost always nice in the summer regardless of the pattern.The difference in sunshine between Seattle and Portland in the summer is negligible. The only season that Portland is a bit sunnier than Seattle is fall. With deep troughs in general, Seattle tends to benefit from the Olympic shadow and actually probably sees more sun in those patterns than Portland. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 You and moldman live in pretty wet microclimates. And despite that it has even been a very dry month for you two as well. 3F4B1865-A9B8-469D-AAC5-C830597BF42C.pngMoldman. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 And the nightly hot-box right? What kind of car(s) do you have?More like every other night, but yeah. I drive a dinosaur..1999 Acura RL and also a Silverado for work. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I wonder if Tim can handle all of the TRUTH being thrown his way tonight. Probably better to log off and start fresh tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Newfoundland/Labrador is getting blasted right now. ECMWF has about 18” falling there over the next 18hrs. Right down to sea level. Crazy to see at 50N. Through tomorrow evening: Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I will say Tim. You have posted enough pictures of your ridge here than I immediately recognized it coming down I-90 westbound early this evening. It’s a nice area. We had a chance to stop at both Snoqualmie Falls and downtown North Bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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