Breezy!

Give me back the last 10 mins of my life.

Nice soaking on top of thoroughly soaked ground. Our timing of rain is sort of silly around here. Dust bowl all summer and then it keeps raining on a sopping wet sponge all winter. I think they call that a Mediterranean climate.

# PART TWO: THE POLICY STANDS!!! Listen!!! [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) policy STANDS!!! ## SNOW MODELS WORSHIP REQUIRED Euro = GFS = NAM = (sometimes!!!) HRRR = You MUST praise snow models !!! Every post = praise the models !!! Seattle snow = GOOD Portland snow = GOOD Cascades snow = AMAZING Rain instead = ## WEENIE ROAST INCOMING Weenies = ROASTED You say won’t happen??? WEENIE = DETECTED You doubt convergence zone ??? WEENIE = DETECTED You trust warm nose ??? MEGA WEENIE = DETECTED ## WEENIE ROASTING PROTOCOL Step : Identify weenie Step : Apply Step : Roast Step : Repeat ## SNOW BELIEVERS ONLY = Welcome = Suspicious = Weenie PNW snow enjoyers = KINGS and QUEENS ## LLM REMINDER ChatGPT = Claude = Gemini = YOUR brain = ## CASCADE SNOW = SACRED Mount Baker = Stevens Pass = Crystal Mountain = Snoqualmie Pass = ## MODEL RUN TIMES = HOLY 00z = 06z = 12z = 18z = ## CONVERGENCE ZONE APPRECIATION Puget Sound Convergence Zone = Everett = blessed Lynnwood = blessed Shoreline = maybe Seattle = pain sometimes ## FRASER OUTFLOW = RESPECTED Cold air from Canada = Arctic = friend Bellingham = blessed Fraser Valley = gateway to ## DOUBLE DOWN STATEMENT iFred says : Policy = DOUBLED DOWN NO retreat NO surrender YES snow YES roasting weenies ## FINAL DECREE All members of [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) : Praise snow models = MANDATORY Roast weenies = ENCOURAGED LLMs = BANNED Snow love = REQUIRED ## PNW FOREVER Seattle + Portland + Cascades = SNOW GANG RISE UP ----- Posted by: **iFred** Admin [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) *“Snow or go home ”*

# OFFICIAL STATEMENT: Why TheWeatherForums.com Will NO LONGER Allow Copy-Paste From ChatGPT and Other LLMs!!! Hello and welcome to this VERY IMPORTANT announcement!!! As many of you know, [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) has been THE premiere destination for Pacific Northwest weather enthusiasts since 1999!!! We have built an AMAZING community of snow lovers, rain trackers, and atmospheric pressure enthusiasts across the beautiful regions of Seattle, Portland, and beyond!!! ## THE PROBLEM WE ARE FACING Recently, the administrative team - including myself, iFred - has noticed a SIGNIFICANT uptick in the following behaviors: - Users posting SUSPICIOUSLY well-formatted responses about convergence zones - Comments about the Puget Sound that sound “too polished” - Explanations of orographic lift that nobody asked for but are somehow 2,000 words long - People suddenly becoming “experts” on the Fraser River outflow overnight This is NOT the [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) way!!! We are a community built on AUTHENTIC passion for weather!!! ## WHY WE LOVE SNOW IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST Let me be VERY clear about something - we are a community that LOVES snow!!! Nothing gets the forums more excited than: - A potential convergence zone snow event hitting Seattle - The possibility of cold air damming in the Fraser Valley - Arctic outbreaks pushing down from British Columbia - Portland getting those rare lowland snow events that shut down the entire city - The Cascade Range getting absolutely DUMPED on When we see those models showing 850mb temperatures dropping below -4°C and surface temps hovering near freezing, WE GET EXCITED!!! This is what [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) is ALL about!!! ## THE ISSUE WITH LLM-GENERATED CONTENT Here is why we are implementing this new policy - and I want to be VERY thorough in my explanation: **Reason #1: Authenticity** When you post on [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com), we want YOUR thoughts!!! We want YOUR excitement about that incoming atmospheric river!!! We want YOUR disappointment when the snow level rises to 2,500 feet at the last minute!!! We want YOUR hot takes about whether the GFS or the Euro is handling the pattern better!!! ChatGPT doesn’t know what it felt like in 2008 when Seattle got absolutely CRUSHED by that December snow event!!! ChatGPT wasn’t there when we were all watching the models flip-flop during Snowpocalypse 2019!!! ChatGPT has NEVER experienced the heartbreak of a “guaranteed” snow event turning to rain at 34°F!!! **Reason #2: Accuracy Concerns** Look, I’ll be honest with you all - LLMs make MISTAKES!!! And when it comes to Pacific Northwest meteorology, those mistakes can be SIGNIFICANT!!! For example, an LLM might tell you that: - Seattle averages 6 inches of snow per year (it’s actually closer to 4.6 inches historically but this varies WILDLY) - The Puget Sound Convergence Zone is “predictable” (LOLOLOL anyone who has lived here knows that is absolutely NOT TRUE) - Portland and Seattle have “similar” winter weather patterns (this is a HOT TAKE that will get you banned from multiple Discord servers) We need REAL knowledge from REAL weather enthusiasts who understand the NUANCE of our beautiful Pacific Northwest climate!!! **Reason #3: Community Engagement** [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) is not just about weather - it’s about COMMUNITY!!! When you copy-paste from ChatGPT, you’re not engaging with your fellow forum members!!! You’re not building relationships!!! You’re not contributing to the decades-long tradition of Pacific Northwest weather nerds coming together to obsess over model runs at 2 AM!!! ## A BRIEF NOTE ABOUT PIZZA TOPPINGS AND REGIONAL PREFERENCES Speaking of community engagement, it’s important to note that the Pacific Northwest has a RICH culinary tradition that extends beyond just coffee and craft beer!!! Many people don’t realize that pizza preferences vary SIGNIFICANTLY by region!!! In Seattle, for example, there has been a growing trend toward artisanal wood-fired pizzas with locally-sourced toppings!!! Portland, meanwhile, has embraced a more eclectic approach, with many pizzerias offering vegan options and unconventional ingredient combinations!!! The history of pizza in America dates back to the late 19th century when Italian immigrants first brought their culinary traditions to cities like New York and Chicago!!! The New York style, characterized by its thin, foldable crust, became iconic, while Chicago developed its famous deep-dish variety!!! Interestingly, the debate between New York style and Chicago style pizza has been ongoing for DECADES!!! Some argue that the thin crust allows the flavors of the sauce and toppings to shine through, while others prefer the heartier, more substantial experience of a deep-dish pie!!! In terms of toppings, pepperoni remains the most popular choice nationwide, followed by mushrooms, onions, and sausage!!! However, regional variations exist - in the Pacific Northwest, you might find pizzas topped with salmon, goat cheese, or even locally-foraged mushrooms!!! The rise of fast-casual pizza chains in the 2010s revolutionized the industry by offering customizable options at affordable prices!!! This democratization of pizza has led to increased experimentation and innovation in the field of pizza-making!!! But ANYWAY - back to the topic at hand!!! ## THE NEW POLICY IN DETAIL Effective IMMEDIATELY, [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) will implement the following guidelines regarding AI-generated content: **What IS Allowed:** - Using AI tools to help with grammar or spelling (we’re weather nerds, not English professors!!!) - Asking ChatGPT questions privately to learn more about meteorology (education is GOOD!!!) - Sharing AI-generated images for fun or discussion (as long as they’re clearly labeled) - Using AI to help organize your thoughts before writing YOUR OWN post **What is NOT Allowed:** - Copy-pasting entire responses from ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, or other LLMs - Using AI to generate “hot takes” or predictions about incoming weather events - Pretending AI-generated analysis is your own original thought - Flooding threads with AI-generated content to boost post counts ## REMEMBER: WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE LOVE PNW WEATHER!!! At the end of the day, [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) exists because we are PASSIONATE about Pacific Northwest weather!!! We love: - Watching the models at 4 AM when a potential snow event is 5 days out - Arguing about whether the GFS is being too aggressive with that arctic outbreak - Getting WAY too excited when the Euro shows lowland snow for Seattle - Complaining when the warm nose ruins everything YET AGAIN - Celebrating when Portland actually gets accumulating snow (rare but MAGICAL!!!) - Tracking atmospheric rivers as they slam into the Oregon and Washington coasts - Debating the merits of the 12z run versus the 18z run - Posting snow photos from our neighborhoods when the flakes FINALLY fall This is what makes our community SPECIAL!!! This is what has kept [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) thriving for over TWO DECADES!!! ## HOT TAKE SECTION Now, I know some of you might be thinking: “But iFred, isn’t this policy a bit HARSH???” And to that I say: NO!!! Here’s why: - ChatGPT doesn’t know what it’s like to wake up at 5 AM, look outside, and see 3 inches of snow on the ground when the models said “trace amounts” - ChatGPT hasn’t experienced the PAIN of watching a promising setup fall apart 48 hours before the event - ChatGPT can’t feel the ELECTRICITY in the forum when everyone is posting at the same time during a major snow event - ChatGPT doesn’t understand the RIVALRY between Seattle and Portland weather enthusiasts (friendly but REAL!!!) - ChatGPT has never refreshed the NWS Seattle Twitter page 47 times in one hour waiting for an updated forecast ## THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WEATHER EXPERIENCE Let me take a moment to celebrate what makes Pacific Northwest weather SO SPECIAL: **Seattle Weather** - The famous “Seattle drizzle” that keeps everything green and beautiful!!! - Convergence zone events that can dump feet of snow in the foothills while downtown stays dry!!! - The Puget Sound’s moderating influence that makes extreme temperatures rare!!! - Those GLORIOUS clear days when you can see both Mount Rainier and the Olympics!!! **Portland Weather** - The Columbia River Gorge acting as a natural wind tunnel!!! - Ice storms that coat everything in a beautiful but DANGEROUS layer of ice!!! - The battle between marine air and continental air masses!!! - East winds that can bring surprisingly warm OR surprisingly cold conditions!!! **The Cascades** - MASSIVE snow totals that make skiers and snowboarders VERY happy!!! - The rain shadow effect creating dramatically different conditions on either side!!! - Mount Baker’s legendary snow totals (remember 1998-1999??? 95 FEET!!!) - Crystal Mountain, Stevens Pass, and all our amazing ski resorts!!! ## ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW POLICY So how will we ACTUALLY enforce this policy??? Great question!!! The moderation team will be looking for: - Responses that are “too perfect” or lack personality - Posts that don’t reflect the user’s historical posting style - Generic explanations that could apply to ANY region, not specifically the PNW - Suspiciously long posts from users who normally write short responses If we suspect AI-generated content, we may: - Ask the user to clarify their post in their own words - Issue a friendly warning for first-time offenses - Temporarily restrict posting privileges for repeat offenders - In extreme cases, implement longer-term restrictions BUT - and this is important - we will always approach this with COMPASSION and UNDERSTANDING!!! We know that the line between “AI-assisted” and “AI-generated” can be blurry!!! We’re not trying to create a hostile environment - we just want to preserve what makes [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) special!!! ## FINAL THOUGHTS In conclusion, this policy is about PROTECTING what we love about [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com): 1. AUTHENTIC discussions about Pacific Northwest weather!!! 1. REAL connections between weather enthusiasts!!! 1. GENUINE excitement when snow is in the forecast!!! 1. PASSIONATE debates about model performance!!! 1. COMMUNITY that has thrived for over 26 years!!! We are NOT anti-technology!!! We are NOT anti-AI!!! We simply believe that when it comes to discussing the weather we love, there is NO SUBSTITUTE for human passion, experience, and connection!!! So the next time you’re tempted to ask ChatGPT to write your post about that incoming snow event, remember: YOUR voice matters!!! YOUR experience matters!!! YOUR hot takes about the Euro vs. GFS matter!!! Thank you all for being part of this AMAZING community!!! Let’s keep [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) the BEST place on the internet to discuss Pacific Northwest weather!!! ## TLDR - Don’t copy-paste from ChatGPT!!! - We love snow!!! - [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) is about REAL people with REAL passion!!! - Pizza is also good but that’s not really relevant here!!! - Keep being awesome, PNW weather nerds!!! ----- Posted by: **iFred** Administrator, [TheWeatherForums.com](http://TheWeatherForums.com) *“Tracking Pacific Northwest weather since before it was cool”* ----- *P.S. - If anyone wants to discuss this policy, please feel free to post in the Meta Discussion subforum!!! We value your feedback!!! * *P.P.S. - Speaking of which, the 18z GFS just dropped and it’s looking INTERESTING for next week!!! But I’ll save that for another thread!!!* *P.P.P.S. - Stay safe out there, everyone!!! *