I can see your point Front Ranger that it was more transitioning from Positive to Negative (neutral) 1998-2007

Lmao at the differences here. Clown model.

We went deep after the 1997-8 Strong Nino. It was a 3-year La Nina/-PDO that maybe extended into a 4th year 01-02. 02-05 was a rebound, but not of the same magnitude as 98-01 -pdo. It definitely did intensify the decadal phase around 2007. I think it went even deeper in 2016. It might not be close to ending anytime soon, but this Solar max spike did seem to start a PNA change in the Pacific..

3:57 sunset today

Strong disagree. Every PDO phase is different, but this one didn't really get started until 2007ish. So it's been close to 20 years. And you can't just look at the numbers, because I know you're thinking the late 90s Uber Nina started the -PDO phase...but look at the response proportionate to ENSO 2002-05.