Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Models are converging on a second, and possibly stronger disturbance in what will be a series of waves that has the potential to lay down another accumulating snow. Who will cash in on some more Spring snows??? The calendar has flipped into met Spring but Ol' Man Winter has other things in store. Let's discuss... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Monday night into Tuesday has one of the better looks for Lake Enhancement on this side as I've seen all season. Banana HP over the GL's will do the trick. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2017030912/ecmwf_uv850_vort_ncus_6.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2017030912/ecmwf_T850_ncus_6.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hopefully the EURO wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Let's go euro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hopefully the EURO winsLooks like if bumped up totals from last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Whats the latest snowfall maps lookin like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Looks like if bumped up totals from last nightyes... super long duration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Whats Euro spitting out my way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 one of NWI worst snowstorms happened in March. Shut down the region for days. If its gonna be cold might as well snow... need to get rid of some of the gas in my snow blowers LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Whats Euro spitting out my way?2-4/3-5 Heaviest in Minnesota and WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 12z EPS looks better organized... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 12z EPS looks better organized...Yes much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Give me a storm if we're gonna get snow in march! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 18z gfs is a bit more organized and father north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 18z GFS trending towards the Euro...ableit slowly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 18z GFS trending towards the Euro...ableit slowly...Yeah was a couple mb stronger this run compared to 12z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 A better looking inverted trough to begin with and developing into a negative tilted trough over the Lakes... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017030918/gfs_z500_vort_us_18.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yeah was a couple mb stronger this run compared to 12zStronger, earlier will be the trend I'm going to pay attn to and EURO has been the only model showing this the past 2 days. GFS flashed it 2 days ago, but may be going back to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Starting to see Lehs showing up on the GFS. In fact, it keeps it snowing off the lake in NE IL through Tue night. The last 4 runs of the GFS are expanding the accumulating snow in all directions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 GFS: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017030918/126/snku_acc.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 GEM really showing the LEHS off Milwaukee: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017030912/132/snku_acc.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Lock it in. Liking the trends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 For heavy snow to be thrown back across the eastern Great Lakes region, the storm would have to strengthen very quickly and hug the mid-Atlantic coast. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 0z NAM def coming in stronger/north HR 69: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam/2017031000/069/refcmp_ptype.conus.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 one of NWI worst snowstorms happened in March. Shut down the region for days. If its gonna be cold might as well snow... need to get rid of some of the gas in my snow blowers LOL!!Exactly which historic storm are you speaking of?? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 @Tom Every time I update my signature on my android tablet, it goes to what you see. Any recommendations? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 E. Iowa hit pretty good: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam/2017031000/081/refcmp_ptype.conus.png Still snowing at this point: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam/2017031000/084/snku_024h.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 0z NAM def coming in stronger/north HR 69: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam/2017031000/069/refcmp_ptype.conus.pngNo!!!! Don't want any snow...Keep it over your way! Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 @Tom Every time I update my signature on my android tablet, it goes to what you see. Any recommendations?No, sorry. I'm not sure about that. You may have to PM IFred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 NAM showing 14-16:1 ratios: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam/2017031000/084/ratioku.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Exactly which historic storm are you speaking of??I'm guessing he's talking about the 1998 storm. Hey, it's actually the anniversary. Remains one of the most poorly forecasted storms I have ever seen. I'll never forget looking at the radar before going to sleep and thinking that something wasn't right with the forecast. The forecast was for an inch or less, and the actual result was a blizzard that dumped 12+. The surprise nature of it caused enormous travel difficulties with many people stranded. The combination of heavy snow and high winds also left some areas without power for many days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Another small step towards the Euro on 0z GFS. A bit stronger and slower. East coast gets crushed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Lehs signature is growing for NE IL. I have seen this type of set up before and Chicago usually does fairly well. It looks like the storm phases earlier causing a big shift west almost tracking right over NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Lehs signature is growing for NE IL. I have seen this type of set up before and Chicago usually does fairly well. It looks like the storm phases earlier causing a big shift west almost tracking right over NYC. GEM gets it down to 983 off the east coast. They get buried... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 00z GFS...totals creeping higher overall... http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017031000/120/snku_acc.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Ill take 6-8. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 So this same system bombs out on the EC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 GEM: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017031000/126/snku_acc.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 So this same system bombs out on the EC?Yup..secondary energy forms off the Carolina's and this systems energy transfers over to the coastal low and bombs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 0z euro even farther north than 12z. Low is stronger/north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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