HighlandExperience Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Looks like Seattle gets shafted again Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I like heatwaves and thunderstorms and windstorms and marine pushes too. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wx_statman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Downside here are the temperatures. We had 19 in the forecast for this morning as of a few days ago. Have yet to drop below 30 at PDX since the start of this pattern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmet Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Looks like Seattle gets shafted again Thursday.Another rain shadow event. We need a system coming in from the west or southwest which will be difficult in the current longwave pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Final total here just under 3". Really plastered everything. Stuck to sides of power poles, traffic cones, stop signs, wire fences. Neat to see.Yeah, it was particularly sticky kush here too. Pretty. #mean 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 At least no more BSF! 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Downside here are the temperatures. We had 19 in the forecast for this morning as of a few days ago. Have yet to drop below 30 at PDX since the start of this pattern.May not happen until Friday morning. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Looks like Seattle gets shafted again Thursday. The cold is just unreal for this time of year too. 850s stay -10 though much of Thursday night now. What a waste. This never used to happen. It used to be that a high percentage of cold waves like this delivered significant snow to Seattle. Every significant cold event since Jan 2012 (and there have been several) has failed to do so. Even the snows we have gotten the last couple of winters were without major cold in play. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Yeah, it was particularly sticky kush here too. Pretty. #mean I held a minute of silence for our friends to the north, before I went for my snow walk. #considerate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Wait is that a donut hole over Monmouth? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3597694566_d3da21ab0d.jpg 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Downside here are the temperatures. We had 19 in the forecast for this morning as of a few days ago. Have yet to drop below 30 at PDX since the start of this pattern. Almost certainly will reach the 20s tomorrow AM, assuming the rapid clearing to the north continues. With the fresh snow cover, could really surprise. Arlington down to 22. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 The cold is just unreal for this time of year too. 850s stay -10 though much of Thursday night now. What a waste. This never used to happen. It used to be that a high percentage of cold waves like this delivered significant snow to Seattle. Every significant cold event since Jan 2012 (and there have been several) has failed to do so. Even the snows we have gotten the last couple of winters were without major cold in play.Our best chance has to be Friday into Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 May not happen until Friday morning. That's all we need. One good night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Staind feels your pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Another rain shadow event. We need a system coming in from the west or southwest which will be difficult in the current longwave pattern. As snowmizer has pointed out, there are plenty of times Seattle area has scored with a system moving in from the NW. This last one was just a little too far offshore, and this next one looks to just be a little too weak as it passes by. And as SW has pointed out, some of it has to do with the trough digging so deep that lows are developing better further south as they dive down the coast. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 The cold is just unreal for this time of year too. 850s stay -10 though much of Thursday night now. What a waste. This never used to happen. It used to be that a high percentage of cold waves like this delivered significant snow to Seattle. Every significant cold event since Jan 2012 (and there have been several) has failed to do so. Even the snows we have gotten the last couple of winters were without major cold in play. No real explanation other than very bad luck. Mythically bad. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Wasn't November 85 a coast slider? Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 . Yeah I got stuck in my driveway today cause my wife had the good car. The sun angle makes this snow not as good. I was ready for summer after January too. But Hawaii beats Oregon 10 months out of the year I also thought I was the only on here who does not care about cold and snow after January. I would be very happy if it never snowed after Groundhog Day. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Almost certainly will reach the 20s tomorrow AM, assuming the rapid clearing to the north continues. With the fresh snow cover, could really surprise. Arlington down to 22. I'd like to see those dewpoints in the 20's for that. We did score a 23 back on 12/26 in a similar situation but the lower levels were slightly drier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Looks like we could stay in Hawaii for another month and probably still come home to multiple chances for snow. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmet Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 As snowmizer has pointed out, there are plenty of times Seattle area has scored with a system moving in from the NW. This last one was just a little too far offshore, and this next one looks to just be a little too weak as it passes by. And as SW has pointed out, some of it has to do with the trough digging so deep that lows are developing better further south as they dive down the coast. I'm aware of what others have pointed out. To my point, getting a system that comes from the northwest to produce a snow event requires specific longwave trough configurations to avoid rain shadowing and too much warm air advection which is difficult to pull off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Down to 35. Looks like the band is wrapping up. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I also thought I was the only on here who does not care about cold and snow after January. I would be very happy if it never snowed after Groundhog Day. I would be even happier if the sun only came out in August and never got above 75. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'd like to see those dewpoints in the 20's for that. We did score a 23 back on 12/26 in a similar situation but the lower levels were slightly drier. I think they'll get there. It's only 10:30...Chehalis is down to 28. You guys just need a little clearing. Shouldn't take too long. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm aware of what others have pointed out. To my point, getting a system that comes from the northwest to produce a snow event requires specific longwave trough configurations to avoid rain shadowing and too much warm air advection which is difficult to pull off. Fair enough. I just wouldn't read too much into what just happened. And I would also point out that a system moving in from the SW requires specific configurations and tracks for Seattle to score, too. Can't be too far south, can't be too far north, can't be too warm, etc. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Looking at the reanalysis on the 500mb pattern that delivered the Arctic front I can see it why we didn't get much snow here. A while back I did a composite of 500mb maps associated with Arctic fronts that delivered snow to Seattle and ones that didn't. This one was squarely in the low snow camp. Next time around I'm going to use that data to make my snow predictions with the Arctic front. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I would be even happier if the sun only came out in August and never got above 75. No sun ever for 11 months of the year? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Wasn't November 85 a coast slider?Yup. PDX had eleven feet over those couple weeks. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 NWS misfired on their Salem forecast. This was tweeted 2 hours ago: Salem: Heavy snow begins b/w 9 PM & 10 PM. Total snowfall amounts of 1-4". SLE reported 35 and rain as of 10:28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Wasn't November 85 a coast slider? Nov 1985 was made up of multiple systems. It was basically Jan 1950 in November. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Yup. PDX had eleven feet over those couple weeks.Fuckk Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 NWS misfired on their Salem forecast. This was tweeted 2 hours ago: Salem: Heavy snow begins b/w 9 PM & 10 PM. Total snowfall amounts of 1-4". SLE reported 35 and rain as of 10:28. Weird. None of the latest models were indicating that, at least that I saw. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Nov 1985 was made up of multiple systems. It was basically Jan 1950 in November.I guess it would of been the first big snow of that period that brought in the arctic air. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 No sun ever for 11 months of the year? Sounds like the foothills by North Bend. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Weird. None of the latest models were indicating that, at least that I saw. I have a feeling they were going off a hunch. Making an educated guess that the models weren't picking up on the southward progression of the snow band. Didn't work out for them, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Still a hole over the Central Sound on the 00z Euro, even with the larger Friday system. Just so incredibly frustrating. Yeah... the weekend looks miserable on the ECMWF. It flirts with lowland snow but the precip is constant so I assume its probably overstating accumulation and it ends up being just really gloomy and drizzly with occasional snowflakes mixing in. I keep thinking this pattern will evolve into one with large ULLs meandering around which would probably end up being a warmer scenario but I have only seen small hints of this so far in the models. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 The Euro kind of sucks late in the week. A lot of rain. Booo. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I have a feeling they were going off a hunch. Making an educated guess that the models weren't picking up on the southward progression of the snow band. Didn't work out for them, obviously.Euro from last night did very well. You'd think they'd have learned that you shouldn't bet against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Sounds like the foothills by North Bend. We had almost 5 straight months of sun last year. Even December was very sunny. You must be confused. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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