Polite Politics

[Rubus Leucodermis]

31 minutes ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

This is pretty funny to read considering folks at the capital tried repeatedly to get the National Guard called in.  The most straightforward way to do it would be for Trump to do it.  Of course he's not going call in the National Guard on people doing his bidding. 

There is video of congressional leadership being left to figure out how to get the Guard called in without Trump doing it.  Shame on them for not knowing, but then again, who, in their widest dreams would have thought an attempted coup would go down on that day.

And if the Guard had been called in, dollars to donuts the rhetoric would now go something like “The woke left called out the military on other US citizens! It just goes to show what a bunch of evil authoritarians they are.”

[Deweydog]

16 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

I don't do sarcastics very well at all...

[roadtonowhere08]

9 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

[Iceresistance]

Y'all are funny

[Anti Marine Layer]

Digital currency may be coming soon, without warning. Maybe by July 26. 

[Iceresistance]

22 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Digital currency may be coming soon, without warning. Maybe by July 26. 

Do you have evidence?

[Anti Marine Layer]

11 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

Do you have evidence?

https://secure.palmbeachgroup.com/?cid=MKT744941&eid=MKT750195&assetId=AST304687&page=1

 

[Iceresistance]

42 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

https://secure.palmbeachgroup.com/?cid=MKT744941&eid=MKT750195&assetId=AST304687&page=1

 

Only reason why he may doing this so he wants to control Money, and how much money you should have. Is there any Laws to prevent a president from doing something like this?

There is a serious risk that Digital currency can be used to promote and justify racism.

[Deweydog]

56 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

https://secure.palmbeachgroup.com/?cid=MKT744941&eid=MKT750195&assetId=AST304687&page=1

 

Did you buy you special investment package??? A $595 value for just $49.99! I bought four just in case.

[roadtonowhere08]

2 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Digital currency may be coming soon, without warning. Maybe by July 26. 

 

1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

https://secure.palmbeachgroup.com/?cid=MKT744941&eid=MKT750195&assetId=AST304687&page=1

 

[Andie]

Can’t see them just throwing everyone: citizens, corporations, banks, stock market, foreign trade partners, (the yuan, the pound, etc.).  
The ambush would toss the global market under the bus.   
Now they might state it’s in the plan long term but not “hey gang, turn your notes in for digital credit today!”

No. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

Even the New York Times has a warning

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/business/cashless-transactions.html

[Andie]

If they’re serious about going totally digital it will take some time to convert.  Resistance will have to be dealt with. Areas that are very rural will have difficulty, and then there are protests.  
And what of gold? Coins of varying forms, bullion, old silver coins, collector coins.  They can’t just snap their fingers.  
Not to mention the impact on global markets.  It will be very complicated and anyone taking a loss of something big will certainly be suing.  
I can see it getting ugly.  
I know where part way there but the balance of the change is the rough part.  

[SnarkyGoblin]

3 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Even the New York Times has a warning

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/business/cashless-transactions.html

*Sigh* 

Cashless and a "digital currency" is not the same thing.

The other thing you linked is literally a scam.

[Anti Marine Layer]

19 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

*Sigh* 

Cashless and a "digital currency" is not the same thing.

The other thing you linked is literally a scam.

There is this from Wikipedia

In 2023, the central banks of 114 countries accounting for 95% of the world’s GDP were said to be in various stages of evaluating the launch of a national digital currency.^[11][12] These included the ECB, the UK, and the US.^[13][14] China's digital RMB was the first digital currency to be issued by a major economy.^[15][16] Five central banks have launched a CBDC: the Central Bank of The Bahamas (Sand Dollar), the Eastern Caribbean Central Bank (DCash), the Central Bank of Nigeria (e-Naira), the Bank of Jamaica (JamDex), People's Bank of China (Digital renminbi) and the Reserve Bank of India (Digital Rupee).^[17] The ECB/Eurozone is preparing decision by end of 2023, following a study phase since 2021 regarding the possibilities of a digital euro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank_digital_currency

[Rubus Leucodermis]

5 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Even the New York Times has a warning

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/business/cashless-transactions.html

Dateline July 6, 2020.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

There is this from Wikipedia

In 2023, the central banks of 114 countries accounting for 95% of the world’s GDP were said to be in various stages of evaluating the launch of a national digital currency.^[11][12] These included the ECB, the UK, and the US.^[13][14] China's digital RMB was the first digital currency to be issued by a major economy.^[15][16] Five central banks have launched a CBDC: the Central Bank of The Bahamas (Sand Dollar), the Eastern Caribbean Central Bank (DCash), the Central Bank of Nigeria (e-Naira), the Bank of Jamaica (JamDex), People's Bank of China (Digital renminbi) and the Reserve Bank of India (Digital Rupee).^[17] The ECB/Eurozone is preparing decision by end of 2023, following a study phase since 2021 regarding the possibilities of a digital euro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank_digital_currency

This is not happening this year. Or next year. Or the year after that. (Where “this” is the USA abandoning physical money and going to digital money only.)

It may eventually happen but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Digital money may get added to the mix but old fashioned physical money is not going anywhere soon.

I am so sure of it that I am willing to bet you US $100 that come January 1, 2024, physical US currency will be alive and well.

I am willing to put my money where my mouth (or maybe I should say keyboard) is. Are you?

[Chewbacca Defense]

53 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

This is not happening this year. Or next year. Or the year after that. (Where “this” is the USA abandoning physical money and going to digital money only.)

It may eventually happen but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Digital money may get added to the mix but old fashioned physical money is not going anywhere soon.

I am so sure of it that I am willing to bet you US $100 that come January 1, 2024, physical US currency will be alive and well.

I am willing to put my money where my mouth (or maybe I should say keyboard) is. Are you?

We can't even get rid of the f*cking penny, people really think we are going to go to digital money??? 

[Iceresistance]

Dare I mention that Digitalized Currency has a much higher risk of being stolen and potentially lost forever by hackers?

[Jim Tezeta]

I don’t even trust coinstar. How do you know that the count is correct? 

[Iceresistance]

13 minutes ago, Jim Tezeta said:

I don’t even trust coinstar. How do you know that the count is correct? 

Count the change yourself! That is what I do!

[Iceresistance]

This is just plain stupid, and racist.

 

"White Men Are a Danger to Society": Member of San Francisco Reparations Committee Claims White Men Are Serial Killers (msn.com)

[Jim Tezeta]

Do you think POC serial killers are just better at hiding their crimes? All the top ones that got caught were white.  BTK, Dahmer, Bundy etc

[Iceresistance]

US scrambles to increase weapons production after Biden let military info slip on TV | Fox News

[Iceresistance]

5 minutes ago, Jim Tezeta said:

Do you think POC serial killers are just better at hiding their crimes? All the top ones that got caught were white.  BTK, Dahmer, Bundy etc

They view that ALL White Men are like them.

[Jim Tezeta]

Are there any women serial killers?

[Iceresistance]

1 hour ago, Jim Tezeta said:

Are there any women serial killers?

Yes, it has happened.

[SnarkyGoblin]

5 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

This is just plain stupid, and racist.

 

"White Men Are a Danger to Society": Member of San Francisco Reparations Committee Claims White Men Are Serial Killers (msn.com)

Friendly reminder that reverse racism doesn't exist.

What you're describing would be racial prejudice, assuming the headline isn't click bait.

[Iceresistance]

2 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Friendly reminder that reverse racism doesn't exist.

What you're describing would be racial prejudice, assuming the headline isn't click bait.

Reverse Racism is STILL Racism!

[Anti Marine Layer]

3 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Friendly reminder that reverse racism doesn't exist.

What you're describing would be racial prejudice, assuming the headline isn't click bait.

According to Merriam Webster

racism:

1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

 

To say that "Reverse racism does not exist" is to say that only white people can be racist, which would be racism according to the above definition

 

also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice

 

According to the 2nd part, racial prejudice is racism 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

 

[SnarkyGoblin]

3 hours ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

According to Merriam Webster

racism:

1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

 

To say that "Reverse racism does not exist" is to say that only white people can be racist, which would be racism according to the above definition

 

also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice

 

According to the 2nd part, racial prejudice is racism 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

 

Quote

Reverse racism, sometimes referred to as reverse discrimination,^[1] is the concept that affirmative action and similar color-conscious programs for redressing racial inequality are forms of anti-white racism.^[2] The concept is often associated with conservative social movements^[2][3] and reflects a belief that social and economic gains by black people cause disadvantages for white people.^[2][4]

Belief in reverse racism is widespread in the United States; however, there is little to no empirical evidence that white Americans suffer systemic discrimination.^{[5][6][7][8][9]} Racial and ethnic minorities generally lack the power to damage the interests of whites, who remain the dominant group in the U.S.^[10] Claims of reverse racism tend to ignore such disparities in the exercise of power and authority, which most scholars argue constitute an essential component of racism.^[1][11][3]

 

[Andie]

18 hours ago, Jim Tezeta said:

Do you think POC serial killers are just better at hiding their crimes? All the top ones that got caught were white.  BTK, Dahmer, Bundy etc

Most serialists are white males according to a detective I worked with.  He had a case of a young teen male that he knew had murdered a female relative by scalding her in a hot bathtub.  Took her 3 days to die. Terrible case.  

They used every bit of evidence and he still got off.  He brought a clean copy of the 911 tape to me and asked me to find a tech specialist to clean up  the tape and bring the background up to see what was there. 
You could hear a faint conversation.   
I spent a week locating a sound specialist working in the film industry and begged him to do some pro-bono work to catch this killer.  

He went along and did a brilliant job.  You could hear this teen spill his guts to and angry mother in the background. 
While I came in on the civil suit (the fools on the criminal trial let him off), we got a $1mil judgement for the victims family.  The perps family was well off and no doubt were  hit with the tab.   

But what bothers me to this day is his family moved to Ill/Ind area.  He was like 15 then. He’d be 45 now and at the peak of his criminal career.  
Serialists are created at the childhood level demonstrating cruelty to animals and such.
That case has stuck with me to this day.  

[hawkstwelve]

Looking at the state of the Republican field as it stands today there is only a handful of the 15+ candidates that will probably make the debate stage: Trump, DeSantis, Haley, Pence, Scott, Christie, and Ramaswamy. Everyone else either doesnt have the donor infrastructure or isn't polling high enough to make it, which effectively means they should drop out shortly thereafter and coalesce around the non-Trump candidate leading at that point.

Of those debate qualifiers, only a few really have a shot at winning IMO: Trump, DeSantis, Scott, and Haley. Christie is not popular among Republicans and is only getting a boost because he's the only one willing to take direct shots at Trump so the never-Trump Republicans like myself are wanting to see him up there. Once a couple others start going after him more (if they do) Christie will be less of a necessity. I will say Ramaswamy seems like a dark horse this year. He has steadily risen in the polls and is now sometimes coming in behind DeSantis. I've listened to a few of his interviews (including the atrocious Breakfast Club one) and I'll be damned if he doesn't make some good sense and have some bold ideas. Not to mention he's less than 50 years old, which is apparently the bar we have to set for ourselves now. Depending on if he can stand out at the debates he might be one to keep an eye on. Pence is just not going to win anyone besides the most ardent evangelical voters. MAGA hate him with a passion and he's too boring and scripted for everyone else.

Much has been made about DeSantis lack of poll numbers increasing and whatever internal strife is happening within his campaign but I think he'll steady the course soon enough and still be a contender. Although I question his ability to win in a general election while running to the right of Trump. He has certainly built a coalition of supporters across the spectrum in Florida but I don't think that translates to a national level. Scott and Haley will need to outperform expectations at the debate to start gaining some traction. Although Scott is seemingly picking up steam with the donor class behind the scenes so he might have a bit more staying power. Still holding out hope my girl Nikki Haley somehow pulls this one out.

[Anti Marine Layer]

10 hours ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

 

That's a debate on whether affirmative action is racist towards white people or not and depends on the systemic racism definition rather than individual racism.

However, a recent poll shows that many Black people approved of the Supreme Court's decision. 

Most conservatives and even some liberals think affirmative action hurts the people it's intended to help because people are chosen solely based on their skin color rather than qualifications and then they find college too difficult at places like Harvard.

When I was in high school a Hispanic student got into UCLA while a white student with a much higher GPA did not. The white student then wrote next to the name of the Hispanic student "affirmative action", and the Hispanic student felt really bad.

Ibram X. Kendi, who's a leftist and CRT supporter says "The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." Do you agree with him?

 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

25 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

When I was in high school a Hispanic student got into UCLA while a white student with a much higher GPA did not. The white student then wrote next to the name of the Hispanic student "affirmative action", and the Hispanic student felt really bad.

Can’t wait until Harvard students who get in on legacy preference get “rich twit” written next to their names.

[DareDuck]

On 7/15/2023 at 10:01 PM, Rubus Leucodermis said:

 

I am so sure of it that I am willing to bet you US $100 that come January 1, 2024, physical US currency will be alive and well.

I am willing to put my money where my mouth (or maybe I should say keyboard) is. Are you?

Unsurprisingly this didn’t receive a reply. Guess there wasn’t a link riddled with false info he could find. 

[Iceresistance]

If Trump picks Nikki Haley as VP, then the Democrats will literally go into panic mode, she already demolished Don Lemon single-handedly!

[Stormy]

3 hours ago, Iceresistance said:

If Trump picks Nikki Haley as VP, then the Democrats will literally go into panic mode, she already demolished Don Lemon single-handedly!

I don't think there's any way he's picking her as she's a never Trumper! He's going to be more careful who he selects for various positions since he's been backatabbed too many times already. 

[Stormy]

6 hours ago, hawkstwelve said:

Looking at the state of the Republican field as it stands today there is only a handful of the 15+ candidates that will probably make the debate stage: Trump, DeSantis, Haley, Pence, Scott, Christie, and Ramaswamy. Everyone else either doesnt have the donor infrastructure or isn't polling high enough to make it, which effectively means they should drop out shortly thereafter and coalesce around the non-Trump candidate leading at that point.

Of those debate qualifiers, only a few really have a shot at winning IMO: Trump, DeSantis, Scott, and Haley. Christie is not popular among Republicans and is only getting a boost because he's the only one willing to take direct shots at Trump so the never-Trump Republicans like myself are wanting to see him up there. Once a couple others start going after him more (if they do) Christie will be less of a necessity. I will say Ramaswamy seems like a dark horse this year. He has steadily risen in the polls and is now sometimes coming in behind DeSantis. I've listened to a few of his interviews (including the atrocious Breakfast Club one) and I'll be damned if he doesn't make some good sense and have some bold ideas. Not to mention he's less than 50 years old, which is apparently the bar we have to set for ourselves now. Depending on if he can stand out at the debates he might be one to keep an eye on. Pence is just not going to win anyone besides the most ardent evangelical voters. MAGA hate him with a passion and he's too boring and scripted for everyone else.

Much has been made about DeSantis lack of poll numbers increasing and whatever internal strife is happening within his campaign but I think he'll steady the course soon enough and still be a contender. Although I question his ability to win in a general election while running to the right of Trump. He has certainly built a coalition of supporters across the spectrum in Florida but I don't think that translates to a national level. Scott and Haley will need to outperform expectations at the debate to start gaining some traction. Although Scott is seemingly picking up steam with the donor class behind the scenes so he might have a bit more staying power. Still holding out hope my girl Nikki Haley somehow pulls this one out.

DeSantis is pretty much done. He's already laid off some of his staffers because some of his donors are drying up because his poll numbers don't look good at all. Current polling shows he won't even win his own state! Some are expecting him to drop out as soon as a couple months and probably by the end of the year. Ramaswamy is almost doing better among Republicans than DeSantis or at least catching up, and he seems like a nice guy and says the right things, but don't have too much history on him so I don't know how he is. He could be a pretend MAGA like DeSantis was. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

4 hours ago, DareDuck said:

Unsurprisingly this didn’t receive a reply. Guess there wasn’t a link riddled with false info he could find. 

You know how the saying goes: money talks….