Jesse Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 With the recent cooling trend in the models, it's looking like PDX (and possibly other PNW stations) have a shot at a top 5 cold February. PDX's top 5: 1956: 35.81989: 36.01950: 38.81949: 39.11969: 39.7 February 2014 so far: 38.2 Plugging in the numbers from Mark's 7-day (which is on the warm side of things right now), brings PDX to 39.7 by the 26th. If things trend cooler, which certainly seems possible, 2014 could find itself in the #5 spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Any information about other PNW stations who may also see a top cold month, or cold stats from the arctic blast at the beginning of the month is encouraged on this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Any information about other PNW stations who may also see a top cold month, or cold stats from the arctic blast at the beginning of the month is encouraged on this thread!Hoquiam may be in the running, how would I find their info for monthly temps? I would like to figure it out. I know it is not a major station, but its still a station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 7-day forecast I'm basing my extrapolated numbers for PDX on. Definitely some room for this to go a little cooler: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hoquiam may be in the running, how would I find their info for monthly temps? I would like to figure it out. I know it is not a major station, but its still a station. They might have that on the NWS site. They have a really nice page for PDX: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/pdxclimate/pg43.pdf I am such a junkie for these kinds of stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 They might have that on the NWS site. They have a really nice page for PDX: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/pdxclimate/pg43.pdf I am such a junkie for these kinds of stats.Looking at the weather underground stats for KHQM, it shows they are at 40 for average this month. Pretty impressive for them I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Looking at the weather underground stats for KHQM, it shows they are at 40 for average this month. Pretty impressive for them I would think. I would think so. KVUO (BLI) snowman is the guru with that kind of thing. He or Jim. Hopefully they will have some data to add to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Here are the top 5 for SLE 1) 1989 - 34.72) 1936 - 35.63) 1929 - 36.04T) 1956 - 37.04T) 1923 - 37.0 SLE's current average for February is 40.3 so they have no chance at a top 5. The are only running a -2.2 departure right now. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Currently SLE is in the running for the coldest February since 1993 (2011 41.0). Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Just using the Weather Underground for Hoquiam, that only has records back to 1954 and missing years 94-96 for some reason I came up with this. 1. 1956 and 1989 at 37 degrees2. 1976 at 39 degrees3. 1955 and 2011 at 40 degrees4. multiple years(more than 2) at 41 degrees. So since 1954 this year is on pace to tie 1955 and 2011 for the coldest Februaries, not too shabby. I think there is a chance it dips to 39 though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Just using the Weather Underground for Hoquiam, that only has records back to 1954 and missing years 94-96 for some reason I came up with this. 1. 1956 and 1989 at 37 degrees2. 1976 at 39 degrees3. 1955 and 2011 at 40 degrees4. multiple years(more than 2) at 41 degrees. So since 1954 this year is on pace to tie 1955 and 2011 for the coldest Februaries, not too shabby. I think there is a chance it dips to 39 though.That is honestly the first time I have ever taken the time to look up historical cold anomalies that far back. Phew. It does not look like the NOAA has info like they do for PDX or SLM for Hoquiam unfortunately, so legwork is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hoquiam may be in the running, how would I find their info for monthly temps? I would like to figure it out. I know it is not a major station, but its still a station. http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?wa3807 Their 5 coldest Februaries, since 1953, are 1: 1989: 37.042: 1956: 37.243. 1976: 39.534. 1955: 39.625. 2011: 40.12 Aberdeen has a much longer period of record, so they're likely not in the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?wa3807 Their 5 coldest Februaries, since 1953, are 1: 1989: 37.042: 1956: 37.243. 1976: 39.534. 1955: 39.625. 2011: 40.12 Aberdeen has a much longer period of record, so they're likely not in the running.Thank you for making it easier to look up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?wa3807 Their 5 coldest Februaries, since 1953, are 1: 1989: 37.042: 1956: 37.243. 1976: 39.534. 1955: 39.625. 2011: 40.12 Aberdeen has a much longer period of record, so they're likely not in the running.The Hoquiam station definitely has a shot. I wish I knew where the Aberdeen COOP station is located, or how to see up to date stats from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 The Hoquiam station definitely has a shot. I wish I knew where the Aberdeen COOP station is located. http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/coopmap/ You can find it by zooming into it on this map. It looks like it's down by the water in the SW part of the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/coopmap/ You can find it by zooming into it on this map. It looks like it's down by the water in the SW part of the city.Not a very good representation of Aberdeen proper, but the cold anomalies are nonetheless impressive for there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Certainly not going to happen for SEA. While their numbers for the cold snap were pretty good, ever since then they have gone back to their horrible warm biased readings. They desperately need to do something about that station. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Top 10 coldest Februaries in the Portland/Vancouver period of record (1849-present)28.7 in 186232.0 in 188733.9 in 193633.9 in 188335.4 in 186835.7 in 192935.8 in 195636.0 in 198936.8 in 188437.0 in 1891This February will probably come in around 20th place...in the coldest 15%. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Best database for this sort of stuff in my opinion is the Utah Climate Center...their new map GUI is pretty neat. You can also pull up Canadian stations now (GHCN network). Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Not a very good representation of Aberdeen proper, but the cold anomalies are nonetheless impressive for there.Bowerman is right on the water so it makes a useful comparison to the current KHQM station. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 With the added early March wrinkle, February 5 to March 5 now looks historically cold. That's something, at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Monthly mean at PDX sitting at 40.2Won't be anything to write home about given the next couple days look fairly average. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 December was my coldest month down here. All the cold air missed southern Oregon in February. 12/2013 Mean: 2301/2014 Mean: 3302/2014 Mean: 37 (so far) Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Monthly mean at PDX sitting at 40.2 Won't be anything to write home about given the next couple days look fairly average.No, they're at 39.8 today. Will easily be in the top 6 or 7 for PDX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 No, they're at 39.8 today. Will easily be in the top 6 or 7 for PDX.40.0 even today and that was with a +1 dep on the 26th and -4 on the 27th (-1.5 combined departure). The rather warm temps today will probably bump it up another 0.2 to 0.3 at least. I am guessing we come in at 40.3. Perhaps that seems impressive when you consider a relatively small period of record at PDX, only 74 Februaries since 1940, thus a top 10 cold Feb should occur every 7-8 years, top 5 every 15 years or so. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 SEA will probably end up at 41.7 which would be -1.7 departure. 13 of the last 18 days have been above normal though. Silly to look at it like it was such a cold month... rather there was one REALLY cold week. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Officially 40.3 (-3.5 dep) at PDX. Top 10 1956: 35.81989: 36.01950: 38.81949: 39.11969: 39.71993: 40.01964: 40.12014: 40.32011: 40.3Tied for 2011 for 8th place Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 SLE and EUG ended up with -0.8 and -1.1 departures respectively. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Officially 40.3 (-3.5 dep) at PDX. Top 10 1956: 35.81989: 36.01950: 38.81949: 39.11969: 39.71993: 40.01964: 40.12014: 40.32011: 40.3 Tied for 2011 for 8th place 1964 is an annoying one, that winter sucked and the patterns that month were trash. Just shows how much more rural PDX was back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigOne Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 SLE and EUG ended up with -0.8 and -1.1 departures respectively.When was the last time that SLE and EUG ended with below average night minimums? It seems the last decade it's been very hard to get cold clear air masses any more and usually warm fronts come and erode them pretty quickly when one does attempt to set up shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 When was the last time that SLE and EUG ended with below average night minimums? It seems the last decade it's been very hard to get cold clear air masses any more and usually warm fronts come and erode them pretty quickly when one does attempt to set up shop.Dude, are you kidding? EUG fell to -10f this winter, and both SLE and EUG have had a ton of sub-freezing lows. None of your posts make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Dude, are you kidding? EUG fell to -10f this winter, and both SLE and EUG have had a ton of sub-freezing lows. None of your posts make any sense. Yeah, Eugene's average December low temp was 26.4. Obviously one of their coldest December average lows on record. They also had a low of 19 in November, and 20 I believe in February...That post made no sense! 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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