Hawkeye Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 It was drizzling heavily when I got out of Star Wars an hour ago, despite it being only 18 degrees. It switched to a fine dusty snow when I got home. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBadgersW Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Getting close to the 3" mark. Bit surprised by how wet the snow is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 2.7" here very wet snow here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 We have powder down here...its rather odd you guys up north have wetter snow...about 1.3" down so far...looks like its winding down here shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwest buildit Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Not even an inch yet here. Sounded like some mixed precip while i was driving. But it was hard to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Looks like we're done here.pretty disappointed. Was hoping for mood flakes and besides 20min right when it started it was pixie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwest buildit Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 If this is what was supposed to give us 1-3 today/this evening . Looking at radar its done. Then it did not even come close. Lol. Hopefully a better shot tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakjen Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Pretty good glazing of ice down here. Still freezing mist coming down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 inches down looks like best stuff north and also south west of here. Not much more tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshoe Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Area Forecast DiscussionNational Weather Service Green Bay WI832 PM CST Fri Dec 16 2016 New Information added to update section .UPDATE...Issued at 832 PM CST Fri Dec 16 2016 Although snow is ongoing across northeast Wisconsin, snowfalltotals are not coming in at the rates that were expected duringthe afternoon shift. Radar reflectivity trends show a lack ofsignificant returns, with light to moderate snow instead of themoderate to heavy snow that was expected earlier this afternoon.The issue appears to be some low level dry air that is holdingdown the development of large dendrites and high snowfall rates asshown on the 00Z KGRB RAOB. Therefore this first round of snow isexpected to underperform compared to previous forecasts. With thatin mind ended up cutting snowfall totals an inch or two from thisfirst round, which puts snowfall totals at the low end or middleof the forecast range instead of at the higher end. At this pointthere is no change to the headlines expected, as there is a secondround expected on Saturday as well as significant blowing anddrifting snow. Quote WISCONSIN RAPIDS Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Area Forecast DiscussionNational Weather Service Green Bay WI832 PM CST Fri Dec 16 2016 New Information added to update section .UPDATE...Issued at 832 PM CST Fri Dec 16 2016 Although snow is ongoing across northeast Wisconsin, snowfalltotals are not coming in at the rates that were expected duringthe afternoon shift. Radar reflectivity trends show a lack ofsignificant returns, with light to moderate snow instead of themoderate to heavy snow that was expected earlier this afternoon.The issue appears to be some low level dry air that is holdingdown the development of large dendrites and high snowfall rates asshown on the 00Z KGRB RAOB. Therefore this first round of snow isexpected to underperform compared to previous forecasts. With thatin mind ended up cutting snowfall totals an inch or two from thisfirst round, which puts snowfall totals at the low end or middleof the forecast range instead of at the higher end. At this pointthere is no change to the headlines expected, as there is a secondround expected on Saturday as well as significant blowing anddrifting snow.How much do you have so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshoe Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 About 3+ Quote WISCONSIN RAPIDS Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Milwaukee lowering totals also Euro wins this round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianJK Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Every hyped storm busts. Every small event over performs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Pixie dust hellPixie dust first 90 mins from 7 pm then flakes got larger wet and quite heavy. Eyeballing an inch or so since it ramped up. Hoping for 3-1-3 = 7" total by end. Oh, and a bunch of settling and under melt had the depth more like 7-8" not the 11" I stated earlier. It's really dense though. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Hrrr seems pretty bullish on the defo band showing up to 3 inches in spots and still snowing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 This storm is a bust and what a waste of a week tracking it. Wave 2 tomorrow seems to be falling apart on the models as well. Back to drinking now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Best flakes of the day by far. Wont last long but beautiful. Hardest snow of the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshoe Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 What's better than Christmas lights covered in snow? Approaching 4". A much smaller and denser snow than i was expecting. 1 Quote WISCONSIN RAPIDS Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 What's better than Christmas lights covered in snow? Approaching 4". A much smaller and denser snow than i was expecting.You might be good for 6 tonight or so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 RPM says 3-4" additional tomorrow...we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 So when's the next snowstorm to track? I mean rain storm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 NWI maybe a half inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 M2.0 so 2.6" on the day. More than 50% my season avg in 12 days! Quite the ride we're on over here in Pure Michigan! Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 RPM says 3-4" additional tomorrow...we'll seeGRR map has 3-4 tonight for here. They're also bullish on a defo-band Sat. Hope we all can get in on it. I am excited for the blowing & drifting potential. May have to get out in the countryside to take full advantage!! Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 NWI maybe a half inch[/quote Ouch. You could do good off the lake tomorrow though. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Ahh...the dry air intrusion reared its ugly head. Always does a number on totals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Man is anyone getting crushed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I just took a snow fall measurement and here at my house the total at this time is 4” of new snow and this morning the total on the ground here is 11”. Remember there is still compacting of the snow still going on and believe it or not the ground is still warm so there is still melting from the bottom as well. At this time, it is just cloudy here and the temperature is now at 18°. So the GRR NWS did a good job on this event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 LOT's thinking with the second wave later tonight... http://www.weather.gov/images/lot/WxStory/FileL.png?rand=52017 For those in NW IN, LOT discussing the meso-low over LM which will enhance LES..As very cold air mass spills eastward and eventually acrosssouthern Lake Michigan later this evening, high-res guidancesuggests meso-low or meso vortex development with an associatedplume of intense lake effect snow. Lake induced mesovorticies tendto cause variability in the location of the snow squalls limitingresidence time, though underneath these transient bands snowfallrates can exceed 2" per hour. Synoptic flow should tend to pushany intense band(s) east of our CWA by Sunday morning, thoughpossible a quick 2-4" of snow could fall, possibly in a very shortperiod of time in NE Porter County overnight. Snowfall amountswill probably stay below warning criteria, though conditions couldfor a time turn very hazardous with near white conditions inblowing and drifting snow. After coordination with IWX opted tohold off on upgrading to a warning, but later shifts will need tore-evaluate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 06z GFS...snowfall yet to come??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 @IndianaJohn, you will prob get some real intense LES later tonight to make up for the lack of snow yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 How is the snow falling in NE?? Looks pretty decent on radar as the defo band gets going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 So bad it's funny. On to the next... until I see a negative tilt I'm done tracking theses pos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 How is the snow falling in NE?? Looks pretty decent on radar as the defo band gets going.Snow started falling about 5 am. Visibility has been as low as .8 of a mile. Temperature is 1 degree, wind chill -20 with wind gusts to 30 blowing the snow around. It is like snow you would see in the arctic. Hard to describe how cold it is until you step out for a moment. May hit -30 wind chill this evening. Local forecast calling for 1-3 inches, I am hoping for maybe 2 inches on the high end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshoe Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Forecasted for 8 but probably end around 6. But it's a beautiful 6. 1 Quote WISCONSIN RAPIDS Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 4inches of threading the needle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Snow started falling about 5 am. Visibility has been as low as .8 of a mile. Temperature is 1 degree, wind chill -20 with wind gusts to 30 blowing the snow around. It is like snow you would see in the arctic. Hard to describe how cold it is until you step out for a moment. May hit -30 wind chill this evening. Local forecast calling for 1-3 inches, I am hoping for maybe 2 inches on the high end.That's wild! I could only imagine what it looks like over there with the wind, bitter temps and flying snow. Excited to see some of that over here. Arctic frontal snows have that excitement factor if your lucky enough to get under a good band. I remember in 2013-14 there were many of them over here. Quite the experience. Enjoy the snow and glad your able to manage to get something out of this system rather than nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 It is good to get a little. Right now I would estimate 3/4 mile visibility in snow and the blowing of this extremely dry snow around. Looks like Kansas to Kansas City will do well. They have been missed for years down there so good for them. Warmer next week then let's see what Mother Nature can bring us thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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