SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm not talking about this weekend. I'm talking about this Wednesday. The models two days before showed a very similar setup in 2014 as we saw with the 12z models this morning. 00z models then began to shift things north and the trend continued the following day. Yeah at this point there are really no similarities with this weekend, but who knows that could change. Wednesday...Lets hope it trends a little north. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 On Feb 6th??Somehow I don't remember the date... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I just seen a pan handler on a corner saying they were broke and homeless yet she was talking on a smart phone and had nice clean clothing on. Something just looked fishy. My wife asked me one day how much money she thought I could raise in one day on a good intersection dressed nicely with a cool sign. It's something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Didn't GFS MOS also show an afternoon high of 37 or 38 for yesterday? They only topped out at 35. Warm bias! Persistent fog at SEA until mid afternoon.... its the greatest weakness of the GFS MOS. I knew today would be more accurate. Its a great guide except with inversions. Its ALWAYS too high in that situation. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm not talking about this weekend. I'm talking about this Wednesday. The models two days before showed a very similar setup in 2014 as we saw with the 12z models this morning. 00z models then began to shift things north and the trend continued the following day.Same here. Southern stream moisture interaction is far too intriguing. I could easily see this turning into a big snow event-storm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Heavy snow band setting up in S. Salem 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Not really..Maybe I am mistaken but I think that it has been a long time since that type of scenario has happened on a region wide scale for the puget sound. (?) Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Heavy snow band setting up in S. Salem Seems like southern Oregon done really well in the last 5 years. I would have never expected it but I must admit I am jealous as hell! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Somehow I don't remember the date... 4-8" Eugene to PDX. 12-15" amounts locally around Albany and Corvallis.....I got warm nosed the next day around noon, about 24 hours before most other people down here...Painful memory. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Seems like southern Oregon does really well in the last 5 years. I would have never expected it but I must admit I am jealous as hell! I was just going to say that the Willamette Valley has just owned the Seattle area for years now in terms of snow. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Somehow I don't remember the date... It was PDX south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Same here. Southern stream moisture interaction is far too intriguing. I could easily see this turning into a big snow event-storm.I have to agree... Potential is there but the fact that it will warm up rapidly after (up here) is a bummer. If we could just get a huge arctic push after it, I would be quite content for the rest of winter. Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Seems like southern Oregon done really well in the last 5 years. I would have never expected it but I must admit I am jealous as hell! For the most part PDX has been horrible for snow during this period too. Areas further south have kicked our butts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I was just going to say that the Willamette Valley has just owned the Seattle area for years now in terms of snow. Yeah... I wonder when Our turn will be. This snow drought is painful as hell specially when we such a great long lasting block. To see it all slip away again is exhausting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *end rant Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Heavy snow band setting up in S. Salem Looks like someone could use some windshield fluid. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 For the most part PDX has been horrible for snow during this period too. Areas further south have kicked our butts. True! But even Portland has faired way better than most anyone up here ... Well accept Tim of course Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Snow Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Somehow I don't remember the date... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Heavy snow band setting up in S. Salem Wow! Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Somehow I don't remember the date...That map is depressing for us northerners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 True! But even Portland has faired way better than most anyone up here ... Well accept Tim of course You think? Feb 2014 was great for PDX but that and the 2 inches I got last month were the only real snow events I've had since Dec 2009. We did have snow in early 2016 but I didn't even get an inch. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. My condolence to you if you are doing even worse than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Model Countdown-Next up....*00z NAM in 39 minutes00z GFS in 2 hours 23 minutes00z GEM in 3 hours 23 minutes00z ECMWF in 4 hours 41 minutes Big runs tonight! Think Cold and SNOW!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Snow Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 That map is depressing for us northerners.Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 You think? Feb 2014 was great for PDX but that and the 2 inches I got last month were the only real snow events I've had since Dec 2009. We did have snow in early 2016 but I didn't even get an inch. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. My condolence to you if you are doing even worse than that. Yeah, overall it is worse... Maybe an Inch and half since 2012 and that includes this year. But that being said, if what you say is true, that is still pretty pathetic. 1 Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Model Countdown-Next up....*00z NAM in 39 minutes00z GFS in 2 hours 23 minutes00z GEM in 3 hours 23 minutes00z ECMWF in 4 hours 41 minutes Big runs tonight! Think Cold and SNOW!!!! I am praying for a miracle that blows all of our minds! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Somehow I don't remember the date...Would have been in the 22nd-24th window. We had 20" over 3 days here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I am praying for a miracle that blows all of our minds! I want to see a miracle for the weekend. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Modified arctic air is definitely making its way into the PDX area. 29.8 here, dp 20, mostly cloudy with east wind 25-35mph near west Gresham. I am really banking on the snow covered Gorge/Columbia Basin making things colder than modeled. I think it's likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 That map is depressing for us northerners.There were also widespread 2-4" amounts the next day. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Modified arctic air is definitely making its way into the PDX area. 29.8 here, dp 20, mostly cloudy with east wind 25-35mph near west Gresham. I am really banking on the snow covered Gorge/Columbia Basin making things colder than modeled. I think it's likely. A cold basin makes life so much better on this side of the mountains. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I am Still clinging onto the 10day period of Euro that, the northern low slides down between Oregon and WA bringing cold a snow with it. You know I am bat s**t desperate when I am actually posting 240hr Euro models hoping they can deliver something. Forgive me!! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Maybe someone already posted this, but SEA officially got 3" on New Year's morning. They've had snow on 9 different days this winter, for a total of 4" accumulation (bunch of days with just a trace). Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, overall it is worse... Maybe an Inch and half since 2012 and that includes this year. But that being said, if what you say is true, that is still pretty pathetic. Yeah I think as a region we have become garbage for snow. The fact that there is anyone anywhere who has envy for snow in the Willamette valley shows how truly pathetic our winter climate has become. It seems to take so much to even produce a widespread inch of snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I want to see a miracle for the weekend. As long as we have the cold north of the border anything can happen, I know you already know this but I can remember so many times over the years where the cold got drawn back down into the Puget sound area when it was not shown to do so even at 24hrs away from the event. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 It was a little colder going in, but there are other differences too. Mainly the fact the moisture appears to be primarily wrap around. The downslope will be a killer if anything makes it toward PDX.Weren't the storms in February 2014 moving due west to east? Not taking an indecisive offshore trajectory like Wednesday's is. The tracks led to much better forcing and frontogenesis potential with that setup at northern latitudes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kayla Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Modified arctic air is definitely making its way into the PDX area. 29.8 here, dp 20, mostly cloudy with east wind 25-35mph near west Gresham. I am really banking on the snow covered Gorge/Columbia Basin making things colder than modeled. I think it's likely. 26º dp 14º here after a high of 30º this morning. Dry, cold air is definitely filtering down with 925mb temps approaching -6c now. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah I think as a region we have become garbage for snow. The fact that there is anyone anywhere who has envy for snow in the Willamette valley shows how truly pathetic our winter climate has become. It seems to take so much to even produce a widespread inch of snow.Silverton has about 8" total so far this winter, not to bad. The Salem area did well in March 2012 too, not as great as Eugene but 4" with the big event and a couple other lesser events. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 That 3 inches fell on an area the size of Burien. It was very localized up on the hill there. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Silverton has about 8" total so far this winter, not to bad. The Salem area did well in March 2012 too, not as great as Eugene but 4" with the big event and a couple other lesser events. What are you up to on the year? What is your annual average? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Weren't the storms in February 2014 moving due west to east? Not taking an indecisive offshore trajectory like Wednesday's is. The tracks led to much better forcing and frontogenesis potential with that setup at northern latitudes. Does anyone have a map from that event? I thought it also skirted the coast south to north. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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