January Weather In the PNW

[Deweydog]

This whole winter thus far should be.

 

February isn't looking all that great (as if it was) I bet we get no more lowland snow this year and if we do it'll be in mid/late March

 

F**** this climate

Wow. This winter turned **** into a five letter word.

[wx_statman]

The pattern has been pretty similar to 2000-01.  Pretty big differences from January 2006, though, aside from maybe this week.

 

Agreed.

[HighlandExperience]

18z should be a nerve rattler.

 

18z will bury us in snow. 

[wx_statman]

I think 2000/01 was/is a much better “large scale” pattern analog than 2005/06. The latter didn’t have nearly as much mid-latitude Arctic air (around the world, really) as this winter has had (so far, at least).

 

Pretty major Arctic blast in eastern Europe in January 2006. Some all-time record lows in places like Ukraine. 

[Jbolin]

Wow. This winter turned **** into a five letter word.

Let's hear it for that extra asterisk (which has since been removed)

[Deweydog]

I can already tell the 18z is gonna be awful. Don't bother.

[Jesse]

I can already tell the 18z is gonna be awful. Don't bother.

Yeah, that wavebreaking synchronization over the Yukon/NWT is just....lol.

[HighlandExperience]

I can already tell the 18z is gonna be awful. Don't bother.

Only for tiger woods libido

[TigerWoodsLibido]

6 of 8 winters now lousy down here this decade.  Is that the worst since records were kept per decade?

[Jesse]

6 of 8 winters now lousy down here this decade. Is that the worst since records were kept per decade?

I think you are about to break one for factually incorrect statments on this forum.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I think you are about to break one for factually incorrect statments on this forum.

 

Yeah for real. I think the following winters were at least decent/tolerable at valley floor level...

 

2010/11

2011/12

2013/14

2016/17

[TigerWoodsLibido]

I think you are about to break one for factually incorrect statments on this forum.

 

 good, the more I'm pessimistic/incorrect then the more snow generally happens/has happened.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Yeah for real. I think the following winters were at least decent/tolerable at valley floor level...

 

2010/11

2011/12

2013/14

2016/17

 

I don't think Salem on south had anything to my knowledge.  I think a non-sticking event in 2012 but other than that there wasn't anything that I remember.  I was speaking to the Central and South Valley.  I know PDX has had more.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Its pretty uncanny how good of an analog both 2001 and 2006 ended up being. Right down to 1" snow events in Portland in mid-December preceding January lameness under -ENSO.

We can only hope the path we follow forward is closer to 2006.

[Jesse]

I don't think Salem on south had anything to my knowledge. I think a non-sticking event in 2012 but other than that there wasn't anything that I remember. I was speaking to the Central and South Valley. I know PDX has had more.

There were a couple snow events in the Central and South valley in March 2012. Eugene had a pretty major one. I’m not sure how you guys did in January 2012 though.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Looking a bit further south for friday and sat system.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

There were a couple snow events in the Central and South valley in March 2012. Eugene had a pretty major one. I’m not sure how you guys did in January 2012 though.

 

Not to my knowledge, at least nothing that stuck.  I don't remember anything all that cold.  Onshore cold maybe but not really anything very significant enough to remember.

 

Edit: looking at the Wunderground archives, it seems March 21 was a borderline event that had non-sticking snow in some parts of the valley, so I guess that counts for some folks?

[Jesse]

Yeah for real. I think the following winters were at least decent/tolerable at valley floor level...

 

2010/11

2011/12

2013/14

2016/17

That’s the exact same list I was just moments away from posting.

[BLI snowman]

I think you are about to break one for factually incorrect statments on this forum.

 

Monmouth actually only can get measurable snow if there's a foot or more in Corvallis.

 

They famously got donut-holed in 1968-69. Awful year for the valley.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Not to my knowledge, at least nothing that stuck.  I don't remember anything all that cold.  Onshore cold maybe but not really anything very significant enough to remember.

 

You are just trolling now. Salem had 4" of snow with the March 22nd event, and Silverton/Mt. Angel had 1-2" wet snow accumulations on the 13th and the 1st of March, as well as an inch in January 2012, I know much of the Salem area did two at least with the March events. 

[Jesse]

You are just trolling now. Salem had 4" of snow with the March 22nd event, and Silverton/Mt. Angel had 1-2" wet snow accumulations on the 13th and the 1st of March, as well as an inch in January 2012, I know much of the Salem area did two at least with the March events.

You f**** with March 2012 you f**** with Andrew.

[TT-SEA]

Mountain pass type conditions in the Twin Cities this afternoon... this is the exit about 1/2 mile from where I grew up.  

 

[Phil]

Pretty major Arctic blast in eastern Europe in January 2006. Some all-time record lows in places like Ukraine.

That’s the opposite of this year, right? Eastern Europe and western Russia have been pretty warm this winter, while central/eastern Siberia is in the freezer now.

 

Overall, though, it looks like the NH middle latitudes are running much colder in January 2018, compared to January 2006.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

You f**** with March 2012 you f**** with Andrew.

 

Closest thing to March 1951 we will see in our lifetime.

[Jesse]

Not to my knowledge, at least nothing that stuck. I don't remember anything all that cold. Onshore cold maybe but not really anything very significant enough to remember.

 

Edit: looking at the Wunderground archives, it seems March 21 was a borderline event that had non-sticking snow in some parts of the valley, so I guess that counts for some folks?

The late March 2012 event had widespread sticking snow.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

You are just trolling now. Salem had 4" of snow with the March 22nd event, and Silverton/Mt. Angel had 1-2" wet snow accumulations on the 13th and the 1st of March, as well as an inch in January 2012, I know much of the Salem area did two at least with the March events.

Both the 21 and 22 had highs of 36 and 46 respectively. Seems like it was not cold enough to stick around other than for a sloppy little bit. Again, if people want to count sloppy March snow then fine. I'm speaking more to late Nov-late Feb events where the snow can actually stay on the ground for more than 6 hours.

[Deweydog]

Mountain pass type conditions in the Twin Cities this afternoon... this is the exit about 1/2 mile from where I grew up.

 

Someone's feeling left out. Give him some love, guys!

[Phil]

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Time to make some calls on snow... I will say T-1" here on Wednesday night/Thursday AM. 1-3" over night Thursday into Friday AM. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

GO SOUTH YOU PIECE OF !!!!!!!

[ShawniganLake]

Looking a bit further south for friday and sat system.

Landfall looks almost identical to the 12z. Maybe a few miles north. Chance for a bit of snow Seattle and north. Likely quite a bit for your area and southern Vancouver Island

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The late March 2012 event had widespread sticking snow.

 

He is obviously trolling. First he claims a major Eugene snow event from January 2008 had 1-2" of "wet slop," now he is saying the valley did not get anything in March 2012. lol

[TT-SEA]

Someone's feeling left out. Give him some love, guys!

 

Its a pretty significant storm... and its all I am hearing about of course from friends and family.   They have been snow-starved this winter too.  

[Deweydog]

GO SOUTH YOU PIECE OF s**t!!!!!!!

Jeez... I don't know how Phil moving south will help our dull winter issue.

[Phil]

This 18z GFS run will be very close to something good when it all unfolds. How close is the question.

[TT-SEA]

The next 7-8 days look crazy active.   

 

That should solidify the base at Snoqualmie Summit to ensure a run well into April regardless of what happens.  

 

It will be nice to get another taste of spring in a couple weeks if it holds up.    

[TT-SEA]

Time to make some calls on snow... I will say T-1" here on Wednesday night/Thursday AM. 1-3" over night Thursday into Friday AM. 

 

I am guessing nothing at my house... the only time its cold enough for sticking snow here is on Thursday morning at a time when there is no precipitation.  

 

Looks much better for you.  

[TigerWoodsLibido]

He is obviously trolling. First he claims a major Eugene snow event from January 2008 had 1-2" of "wet slop," now he is saying the valley did not get anything in March 2012. lol

We had 1.5" on the ground at 18th and Hilyard. I remember it well because it seemed like I had to brush off a bunch of snow from the satellite dish but it wasn't accumulating on the ground as much as it felt like it should have been. I think the ground temps were pretty warm. Then it melted overnight. I guess it was a major event up on the buttes and areas above 500' but I am speaking to areas below 500' on the valley floor.

[ShawniganLake]

The highly trusted ICON model has shifted south with Saturday’s low. More inline with the GFS. This is really coming together now.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

But in case you don't remember please read this article...That was the single greatest March snow event on record at EUG...This article was written in the morning...Most of the snow in the Central valley fell that afternoon and evening...

 

http://kval.com/outdoors/a-truly-historic-spring-snowstorm-for-eugene-