jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 SLP runs through far NE Iowa. Much further north than the euro. I think we’ll see the Euro continue to cave to the GFS. GFS has been pretty consistent the last several runs. The Euro has wobbled more than normal. Mentioned clippers were NOT it's strong suit 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 But why would the GFS show rain? And if it falls as ice, how much would it be? the has your temps above freezing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawx Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 the has your temps above freezingWell NWS has forecast high of 22 here on Monday. 10 degrees on Sunday night when this stuff begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Well NWS has forecast high of 22 here on Monday. 10 degrees on Sunday night when this stuff begins.Because the models had it farther South Now everything is North Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Well NWS has forecast high of 22 here on Monday. 10 degrees on Sunday night when this stuff begins.Man, it’s not that simple. They’re basing that on the track they’re assuming is going to happen. If the storm is further north than they are currently forecasting, then it will bring more warm air, which means higher temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I find clippers to be such exciting events for snow because they can provide some really hvy snows, especially, if GOM moisture gets involved, followed by arctic air. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Nothing throwing in the towel at all, but definitely out of the mix for the heaviest stuff! Just hoping for a few inches here. Would hate to get shut out. Best of luck to our Minnesota posters! Hope this thing rips for you guys, just make sure to save a little 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBadgersW Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Well looks like i'm tapping out for this one...was so excited a few days ago!Way too early to tap out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Way too early to tap out.Yeah anyone in Wisconsin is still in fine position. Yeah, maybe won’t get the heaviest stuff, but that doesn’t mean the storm is a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Canadian also north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 GEM http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2019012600&fh=66&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_mw&p=snku_024h&m=gdps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 LE should be really good in eastern WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Should see widespread winter storm watches issued tomorrow from probably Fargo to the twin cities to Milwaukee and everywhere in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 GEM gives me .48” of QPF but 3.2” of snow based on Kuchera. So ratios below 7:1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 GEM http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2019012600&fh=66&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_mw&p=snku_024h&m=gdps Turning into a 2-3" event. Getting more from these weak disturbances. Whether this "comes back" or not, models are an absolute joke 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Canadian also north. I knew this would be congrats Packer-land, if only cuz my office went gung-ho waaayyy prematurely Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 No way Euro stays south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 GEMhttp://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2019012600&fh=66&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_mw&p=snku_024h&m=gdpsWatches by tomorrow afternoon if things don’t change much on the models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Watches by tomorrow afternoon if things don’t change much on the models?it will be overnight for you for sure maybe down here too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 No way Euro stays southI’m sure it comes north a little. Will be interesting to see if it comes much further or stays the souther outlier. But at the same time, I think it could stay south because how often do we have that good of model agreement? But I expect the American models to win this one. Open the government and “win” the storm track? What a week for the good ol’ Murica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Should be interesting how Ukie looks in 10 mins. Its been the most southern model so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Watches by tomorrow afternoon if things don’t change much on the models?Should be in the morning for a good chunk of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Should be interesting how Ukie looks in 10 mins. Its been the most southern model so farMy guess is track right around my area, but slightly weaker SLP than the models so far tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Watches by tomorrow afternoon if things don’t change much on the models?I would say by the 3 AM update for you and gosaints Probably 3 PM here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Gfs FV3 pretty similar to gfs A touch slower but similar strength and location Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Ukie caved. Looks similar to GFS with SLP. I’d be shocked if the Euro didn’t make a similar jump north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Gfs FV3 pretty similar to gfs A touch slower but similar strength and location Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Ukie caved. Looks similar to GFS with SLP. I’d be shocked if the Euro didn’t make a similar jump north. Euro will fold like a cheap tent Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Ukie caved. Looks similar to GFS with SLP. I’d be shocked if the Euro didn’t make a similar jump north.Spoiler alert! How’d you get that so fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Ukie takes the low along the WI/IL boarder. Pretty good consensus so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Euro will fold like a cheap tentYup. If the Ukie held, I’d say maybe not. But those two are usually pretty hooked together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 FV3 surf map is so mis-leading. Makes it look like the thing wants to come right at me and pound..then there's next frame, lol Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 wow. down to like ~6 hrs of flakes flying. Yesterday we were at 20+ hrs and trending upwards..clippers are horrible to pin down. Why I said "madness", which I admit to allowing myself to get sucked into. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Gfs FV3 with 18-20 inches in Sheboygan Clear LE signal shown http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs_fv3&p=snku_acc&rh=2019012600&fh=96&r=us_mw&dpdt=&mc= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 wow. down to like ~6 hrs of flakes flying. Yesterday we were at 20+ hrs and trending upwards..clippers are horrible to pin down. Why I said "madness", which I admit to allowing myself to get sucked into. Its all part of the fun amigo! 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 NMI gets walloped w 12"+...wow. I have a friend there that has nearly 3ft on the ground currently. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Euro up and running. My guess: at HR 60, a 998mb low over DBQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I could be wrong.. maybe the Euro doesn’t want to budge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Euro def stays South Hr 72 its in S MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Euro def stays South Hr 72 its in S MIThere had to be some model that stayed south, right? That said, as much as it pains me to say, this is the kind of system I’d actually rather not be on the side of the Euro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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