Polite Politics

[SilverFallsAndrew]

27 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Huh?

Our media speculated on putin's general health.   It's well documented that he became a recluse during COVID.  I would bet any reputable reporter talking about Russia knows a helluva lot more than you do on Russian history.

And why should we be juxtaposing him and Biden anyway?  Did you say the quiet part out loud and we're actually going to be voting between Putin and Biden?

LOL. Quiet part out loud. Give me a break. Just comparing the fact our current president is a senile moron and Russia has a competent leader striving for his nations best interests. Our president craps on our citizens while throwing open our borders to refuse of the world. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

As far as President Biden. The cat is out of the bag now. I would imagine internal discussions are going on right now about what the Democrats next move is. This man clearly cannot serve another day. Does he step down now and pave the way for a Harris candidacy, does Harris assume the Presidency and agree not to stand for re-election in November, or does Biden pull an LBJ and simply announce he is not running for another term?

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

LOL. Quiet part out loud. Give me a break. Just comparing the fact our current president is a senile moron and Russia has a competent leader striving for his nations best interests. Our president craps on our citizens while throwing open our borders to refuse of the world. 

Clearly it's you who needs to be boning up on Russia's post-soviet history.

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

LOL. Quiet part out loud. Give me a break. Just comparing the fact our current president is a senile moron and Russia has a competent leader striving for his nations best interests. Our president craps on our citizens while throwing open our borders to refuse of the world. 

And the guy you want to be VP just got railroaded by Putin.  Tucker Carlson might as well been licking his balls as putin was spouting lies and propaganda unfettered  This guy is currently the world's #1 enemy and here you are praising him.  It's pathetic.

Hilary was not too far off with the Russian puppet comment. I don't think these are coincidences.

[Andie]

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Joe Biden: “I’m well-meaning and I’m an elderly man and I know what the hell I’m doing! I’m the President and I put this chicken back on its feet!”

Donald Trump: I've been told by my many sources, good sources- they're very good sources- that the chicken crossed the road. All the fake news wants to do is write nasty things about the road, but it's a really good road. It's a beautiful road. Everyone knows how beautiful it is.
 

(This nation needs to pray for better leadership.)

[SnarkyGoblin]

For those of us who are gen y/millennial.

[SnarkyGoblin]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/us/politics/biden-trump-aging.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU0.thSE.Kk8HtXYsAt8x&smid=url-share

Seems relevant to the conversation

[snow_wizard]

4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Just got my Washington primary ballot in the mail today. Planning to fill it out for Haley.

1. Biden is going to win the (D) nomination anyhow.
2. I really don't feel enthusiastic about any of the 3 (D)'s on the ballot. Too old, too both-sides-ist, too nutty. What "great" choices.
3. Because the USA and the world will be more improved by changing the Republican nominee than either will by changing the Democratic one.
4. Because I can; Washington does not have partisan voter registration.
5. Because I plan to honor the affidavit and only participate in the presidential primary as a Republican, and not participate in any other party's primary process.

Do you have dual citizenship?

[snow_wizard]

10 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/us/politics/biden-trump-aging.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU0.thSE.Kk8HtXYsAt8x&smid=url-share

Seems relevant to the conversation

Biden just seems so frail and bumbling compared to Trump.  People are really noticing that.  No doubt the report that just came out really hurt Biden's image even more.

[snow_wizard]

52 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

And the guy you want to be VP just got railroaded by Putin.  Tucker Carlson might as well been licking his balls as putin was spouting lies and propaganda unfettered  This guy is currently the world's #1 enemy and here you are praising him.  It's pathetic.

Hilary was not too far off with the Russian puppet comment. I don't think these are coincidences.

How do you get railroaded in an interview?  It's not the job of an interviewer to question what the interviewee says.  He asked questions and Putin gave answers.  It's up to the listener / viewer to decide what's true and what isn't.  I know the lefties want the government to make the decision for them though.

[snow_wizard]

43 minutes ago, Andie said:

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Joe Biden: “I’m well-meaning and I’m an elderly man and I know what the hell I’m doing! I’m the President and I put this chicken back on its feet!”

Donald Trump: I've been told by my many sources, good sources- they're very good sources- that the chicken crossed the road. All the fake news wants to do is write nasty things about the road, but it's a really good road. It's a beautiful road. Everyone knows how beautiful it is.
 

(This nation needs to pray for better leadership.)

All I know is Biden has to go.

[Timmy Supercell]

Corn Pop was one baad dood.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

47 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Do you have dual citizenship?

No. US citizen, permanent resident of Canada.

[snow_wizard]

5 hours ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Corn Pop was one baad dood.

Biden does have a vivid imagination.  I have to say that for him.

[snow_wizard]

4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

No. US citizen, permanent resident of Canada.

Interesting.

[Deweydog]

Anyone going all in with the the Biden/Trump aging whataboutism is going balls deep with intellectual dishonesty. Being a delusional conman does not equate. Anyone behind the scenes downplaying this issue is indirectly pumping Donnie’s chances nine months from now.

[hawkstwelve]

Donald Trump making fun of Haley's husband, a currently-deployed member of SC's national guard. I'm sure he's trying to hint that he ran off somewhere because of Nikki's alleged affairs. He's such a freaking lowlife. 

 

[TT-SEA]

43 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Donald Trump making fun of Haley's husband, a currently-deployed member of SC's national guard. I'm sure he's trying to hint that he ran off somewhere because of Nikki's alleged affairs. He's such a freaking lowlife. 

 

Hooray for the United States!   Our former and future president.    

[SnarkyGoblin]

12 hours ago, Deweydog said:

Anyone going all in with the the Biden/Trump aging whataboutism is going balls deep with intellectual dishonesty. Being a delusional conman does not equate. Anyone behind the scenes downplaying this issue is indirectly pumping Donnie’s chances nine months from now.

And here comes Dr Dewey again.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 hour ago, hawkstwelve said:

Donald Trump making fun of Haley's husband, a currently-deployed member of SC's national guard. I'm sure he's trying to hint that he ran off somewhere because of Nikki's alleged affairs. He's such a freaking lowlife. 

 

Nikki is so nasty her husband has to volunteer to be out of the country. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

21 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Hooray for the United States!   Our former and future president.    

Trump is one of the best comedians we’ve had. 

[Hoosier]

20 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

As far as President Biden. The cat is out of the bag now. I would imagine internal discussions are going on right now about what the Democrats next move is. This man clearly cannot serve another day. Does he step down now and pave the way for a Harris candidacy, does Harris assume the Presidency and agree not to stand for re-election in November, or does Biden pull an LBJ and simply announce he is not running for another term?

Biden seems pretty well convinced that he's the only Dem that can beat Trump.  Based on that, I don't really see him willingly resigning before the election barring some major, acute health crisis.  If he wins in November, then I think it's a really serious question about whether he makes it through the 2nd term.  But in that hypothetical scenario, he will have blocked Trump from being president, so perhaps he could be more easily convinced to resign at some point as his health declines.  I don't think the cabinet would ever invoke the 25th amendment on him.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

13 hours ago, Deweydog said:

Anyone going all in with the the Biden/Trump aging whataboutism is going balls deep with intellectual dishonesty. Being a delusional conman does not equate. Anyone behind the scenes downplaying this issue is indirectly pumping Donnie’s chances nine months from now.

I don’t know what insinuation shocks me more: that Biden is elderly, or that campaigns involve propaganda techniques that are at times intellectually dishonest.

[hawkstwelve]

Trump told a rally that he previously told NATO countries that if they didn't pay their fair share in defense, he would let aggressor countries like Russia "do whatever the hell they want." Yet MAGA wants me to believe that Nikki is the warmonger? Seriously? Does anybody with a half a brain want to explain to Trump/MAGA what Article 5 of the NATO treaty states? Because until they can get that squared away with their "let Russia do what they want" stance in regard to Ukraine and Europe, I refuse to believe that Nikki is our greatest threat of going to WWIII.

[Deweydog]

1 hour ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

And here comes Dr Dewey again.

[Deweydog]

40 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I don’t know what insinuation shocks me more: that Biden is elderly, or that campaigns involve propaganda techniques that are at times intellectually dishonest.

I think it’s becoming pretty obvious to most that it is heading in a direction where it goes well beyond that. Time will tell! Stay tuned!

[Rubus Leucodermis]

12 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

I think it’s becoming pretty obvious to most that it is heading in a direction where it goes well beyond that. Time will tell! Stay tuned!

Beyond being elderly? You think Biden will die before Election Day?

Beyond intellectually dishonest propaganda during elections? Under what rock have you been living?

[Andie]

You’d think both sides could do better.  
Considering the challenges we have these 2 make me nervous.  

[Minny_Weather]

3 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Biden seems pretty well convinced that he's the only Dem that can beat Trump.  Based on that, I don't really see him willingly resigning before the election barring some major, acute health crisis.  If he wins in November, then I think it's a really serious question about whether he makes it through the 2nd term.  But in that hypothetical scenario, he will have blocked Trump from being president, so perhaps he could be more easily convinced to resign at some point as his health declines.  I don't think the cabinet would ever invoke the 25th amendment on him.  

And then Trump will run in 2028 when he's Biden's current age. Hooray!

[TT-SEA]

2 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Beyond being elderly? You think Biden will die before Election Day?

Beyond intellectually dishonest propaganda during elections? Under what rock have you been living?

I just went through this with my dad... Biden is heading for a memory care facility soon.   Takes much longer for death.   He is not someone who can run a campaign for the next 8.5 months.    Or even do the traditional Super Bowl interview today.    He will be noticeably worse in 6 months.   And again 6 months after that... and so on.  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

3 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Biden seems pretty well convinced that he's the only Dem that can beat Trump.  Based on that, I don't really see him willingly resigning before the election barring some major, acute health crisis.  If he wins in November, then I think it's a really serious question about whether he makes it through the 2nd term.  But in that hypothetical scenario, he will have blocked Trump from being president, so perhaps he could be more easily convinced to resign at some point as his health declines.  I don't think the cabinet would ever invoke the 25th amendment on him.  

He has been so convinced since circa 2022. It’s called pride and love of power. Once he tasted the power, he forgot all about his earlier plans to serve one term then leave office. Maybe he was special and the normal process of decline after age 80 would not happen to him (or so he believed).

And nobody apparently tried to talk him out to it. Or if they did try, they were not successful.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I just went through this with my dad... Biden is heading for a memory care facility soon.   Takes much longer for death.   He is not someone who can run a campaign for the next 8.5 months.    Or even do the traditional Super Bowl interview today.    He will be noticeably worse in 6 months.   And again 6 months after that... and so on.  

Well, okay, Dr. Tim. I am unwilling to make remote diagnoses like that.

[TT-SEA]

4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Well, okay, Dr. Tim. I am unwilling to make remote diagnoses like that.

Don't have to be a medical professional to know the signs of mental decline when you see it.   Just have to be human.  It's an inevitable part of life if something doesn't get you sooner.   Starts happening to people at different ages but once it starts its a pretty straightforward downward path.   And we can already see that happening over the last 4 years with Biden.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 hours ago, hawkstwelve said:

Trump told a rally that he previously told NATO countries that if they didn't pay their fair share in defense, he would let aggressor countries like Russia "do whatever the hell they want." Yet MAGA wants me to believe that Nikki is the warmonger? Seriously? Does anybody with a half a brain want to explain to Trump/MAGA what Article 5 of the NATO treaty states? Because until they can get that squared away with their "let Russia do what they want" stance in regard to Ukraine and Europe, I refuse to believe that Nikki is our greatest threat of going to WWIII.

We should ditch NATO immediately. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

Don't have to be a medical professional to know the signs of mental decline when you see it.   Just have to be human.  It's an inevitable part of life if something doesn't get you sooner.   Starts happening to people at different ages but once it starts its a pretty straightforward downward path.   And we can already see that happening over the last 4 years with Biden.

You are absolutely right. The signs with Biden are so obvious, one has to be in complete denial not to see them. If he is alive in 4 years he will be under 24 hour care. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

[Andie]

Hypothetical Unofficial and Purely Speculative Survey............

If you could nominate anyone for President other than the 2 we have, who would that be?

Give me your top 2 or 3, just for grins!

[Rubus Leucodermis]

6 minutes ago, Andie said:

Hypothetical Unofficial and Purely Speculative Survey............

If you could nominate anyone for President other than the 2 we have, who would that be?

Give me your top 2 or 3, just for grins!

As I have said before: Gretchen Whitmer.

If not her: Gavin Newsom.

I would not choose either of the current two front-runners even if you had not ruled out those choices.

[Iceresistance]

3 hours ago, Minny_Weather said:

And then Trump will run in 2028 when he's Biden's current age. Hooray!

Except Trump can't run 2028 if he wins 2024 since the 2-term limit

[SnarkyGoblin]

3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Don't have to be a medical professional to know the signs of mental decline when you see it.   Just have to be human.  It's an inevitable part of life if something doesn't get you sooner.   Starts happening to people at different ages but once it starts its a pretty straightforward downward path.   And we can already see that happening over the last 4 years with Biden.

Of course our mental decline is inevitable.  But you absolutely cannot determine the level and severity of that decline by watching Fox news curated videos of him.