Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Yeah. I looked a little further back - only the 2nd time since 1976 in March. The other of course 1989.Nice. And the coldest air mass is yet to come. Although it’s possible they will have a harder time decoupling the next few mornings. Very cool to see a new March low temp benchmark set for this century regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Holy moly the Euro looks crazy next week. A solid Gorge driven event for Portland would really put a nice bow on this whole thing. Especially so historically late in the season.This constant talk of "bows" is so silly. Like you even know when it will end. We were saying that 2 weeks ago and yet here we are. Nature does not give a sh*t about bows anyways. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 This constant talk of "bows" is so silly. Like you even know when it will end. We were saying that 2 weeks ago and yet here we are. Nature does not give a sh*t about bows anyways. Good one! People following historic weather stats do though. There has been some good discussion on those this morning. Let’s not water it down with bickering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Good lord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 This constant talk of "bows" is so silly. Like you even know when it will end. We were saying that 2 weeks ago and yet here we are. Nature does not give a sh*t about bows anyways. What about a rainbow? Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I'm much more excited about this cold weather than I would be some snow. What we are experiencing is rare, it is only right to appreciate it. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 What about a rainbow?Much better. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 38 here after a low of 24. The wind is picking up now, feels downright cold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Nice. And the coldest air mass is yet to come. Although it’s possible they will have a harder time decoupling the next few mornings. Very cool to see a new March low temp benchmark set for this century regardless. Might as well knock off that low hanging fruit. We finally got the right pattern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I'm much more excited about this cold weather than I would be some snow. What we are experiencing is rare, it is only right to appreciate it.I’m sure the fact that you already have 20” on the ground has nothing to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 This constant talk of "bows" is so silly. Like you even know when it will end. We were saying that 2 weeks ago and yet here we are. Nature does not give a sh*t about bows anyways. I was thinking of buying a bowtie. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I’m sure the fact that you already have 20” on the ground has nothing to do with that. Well yeah...I hope there is an overrunning event next week like the EURO shows. Pretty common to get snow here in March, but always special to see the valley get it. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Spotted a couple monthly record lows this morning: 9 at Pelton Dam, previously 10 on 3/1/1993 -37 at Goldbutte, MT, previously -35 on 3/8/1951 I'm trying to think of the last period that would rival the past 5 weeks for record cold and cold anomalies across the CONUS. What do you think? Maybe 1996...but this seems like the severe cold has been more sustained over a larger area. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Interesting to see Troutdale gusting to 36mph, but no east wind at PDX yet. Temps steady in The Dalles and Pendleton. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Interesting to see Troutdale gusting to 36mph, but no east wind at PDX yet. Temps steady in The Dalles and Pendleton. East winds are picking up here. Maybe 20-25mph atm. A perfect setup for EXTREME LOWS in the Portland metro with this pattern would be an east wind that blows due to daytime mixing then backs off to the mouth of the Gorge overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Yes, my gut feeling is a cooler and more active spring than we’ve seen in several years. We’re due. But I am wrong all the time so it isn’t really a big deal either way. I could see a 1949 or 1951 type spring also. We are incredibly due for one like that. My number one wish at this time is to have no El Nino next winter. Even though things worked out well with this one that would make it a second year Nino which is not good. Past history is on our side for neutral or cold ENSO next winter for a couple of reasons. 1. We just had a major multi year Nino not too long ago.2. A multi year Nino at solar minimum would be unheard of. Perhaps the most surprising thing about February is we had all of that cold weather while an ongoing raging WWB was happening in the Equatorial Pacific. Mother nature did something big to over ride that! Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I'm trying to think of the last period that would rival the past 5 weeks for record cold and cold anomalies across the CONUS. What do you think? Maybe 1996...but this seems like the severe cold has been more sustained over a larger area. Yeah, that's a tough one. The stretch from Dec 2008 to Jan 2009 is also a good one, but not quite like what we're seeing now. Might have to go back to 1978-79? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I was thinking of buying a bowtie. Thoughts?Silverado. 4wd for the continued harsh winters coming up. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I could see a 1949 or 1951 type spring also. We are incredibly due for one like that. My number one wish at this time is to have no El Nino next winter. Even though things worked out well with this one that would make it a second year Nino which is not good. Past history is on our side for neutral or cold ENSO next winter for a couple of reasons. 1. We just had a major multi year Nino not too long ago.2. A multi year Nino at solar minimum would be unheard of. Perhaps the most surprising thing about February is we had all of that cold weather while an ongoing raging WWB was happening in the Equatorial Pacific. Mother nature did something big to over ride that! I would really like a spring like 1949 or 1951. Those were not wet springs... lots of dry, sunny periods with warm daytime temps. And the summer of 1951 was incredible too... it rained on only 8 days here the entire JJA period. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I like turtles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I like turtles.Not if Tim disagrees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just had a chance to look at the full 12z Euro. What a fabulous run. Really nice mix of dry arctic cold and cold maritime air masses. Great to see in March. Reminds me of something out of the 1950s. Still pretty much no meaningful warm up in sight. PDX should see its sub-50 stretch extend though at least the first week of the month at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Not if Tim disagrees Luckily... I do like turtles as well. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snow_wizard Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Somebody was asking about how to easily compare what is happening to past events. This site is amazing for that. You can compare monthly data for the entire country, an individual state, a climate division, a city, etc with data back to 1895. It takes some playing around to realize the full potential of the site. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/national/time-series 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just had a chance to look at the full 12z Euro. What a fabulous run. Really nice mix of dry arctic cold and cold maritime air masses. Great to see in March. Reminds me of something out of the 1950s. Some rain and temps around 50 on days 8 and 9... that would be a nice change. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I would really like a spring like 1949 or 1951. Those were not wet springs... lots of dry, sunny periods with warm daytime temps. And the summer of 1951 was incredible too... it rained on only 8 days here the entire JJA period. March 1951 was a bit next level here. Aside from the snow it had a monthly average high/low of 47/27. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van city Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 EPS... Tim??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 March 1951 was a bit next level here. Aside from the snow it had a monthly average high/low of 47/27. April 1951 was incredible around here... rained on 4 days. Might have been the sunniest April in history here. Huge diurnal swings... lots of 70s/30s type days. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 EPS... Tim??? It does not finish until about 12:20. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 EPS... Tim???You’ll have to wait until it starts showing warmth in the 10-15 day range again. Could be awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 You’ll have to wait until it starts showing warmth in the 10-15 day range again. Could be awhile. Actually showing ridging right now in that period. The 00Z run showed it and the 12Z run is about the same so far. I just need to see about 5 more runs to believe it at this point. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 You’ll have to wait until it starts showing warmth in the 10-15 day range again. Could be awhile. Here is the middle of the 10-15 day period on the 12Z run. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Less of a wait than I thought! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Less of a wait than I thought!Ultimately the background state wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 And snow Here's what the 12Z EURO shows for Wednesday. Looks like moisture comes up from the South bringing ice to the Southern Willamette Valley. Still too dry up around PDX with the East winds eating all the moisture. But then moderate snow by the afternoon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Our snow damage... it was like this when we got back from Hawaii. Appears that snow slid off the roof and took it out. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Ultimately the background state wins.Hopefully we’ve moved on from that background state, at least temporarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 East wind has surfaced at PDX with gusts 25-30 mph. Temp has also shot up to 46, but with the east wind in control now I picture them only adding a few degrees to that. Probably somewhere in the 48-ish range today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van city Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Tim, you should write a book on how to achieve 40 000 post on a weather forum. Remarkable achievement and dedication. Congrats Man, you should have a special status on this weather forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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