TT-SEA Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, Cloud said: Maybe it’s just me but it does seems/feels like our marine layer around here is gone in recent years for this time of year. I think this type of weather is usually morning clouds, then burn off in the afternoon for sunshine in the 70s. Right now, we’re going into the 70s with wire to wire sunshine. Also the fog, we don’t have many foggy days anymore, not really counting the inversions. Seems unusual, but may just be the new trend, weather going forward. Just for clarification... SEA has not reached 70 since Sunday and that was not even on the hour. It has not been above 70 there for 6 days. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Pretty warm EPS run... 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Just for clarification... SEA has not reached 70 since Sunday and that was not even on the hour. It has not been above 70 there for 6 days. The point still being is that it’s not particularly warm or hot lately despite the sunshine. It’s perfect Goldilocks weather. The post was more about what happened to the marine layer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Beautiful day at Cape Blanco. 4 Quote Snowfall Precip 2023-24: 39.5" 2023-24: 76.88 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 73.43" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cloud said: The point still being is that it’s not particularly warm or hot lately despite the sunshine. It’s perfect Goldilocks weather. The post was more about what happened to the marine layer. Totally agree. I was thinking the same thing about the lack of marine layer and yet somehow we are still managing perfect temps. Correction to my last post... it has been a full week since SEA has been above 70. It barely touched 70 there for a little while at some point late Saturday afternoon but the last time it was over 70 was one week ago this afternoon. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Looks like Maine is taking a break from summer. Crashed today and stays cold and wet for most of the next week. 1 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubario Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YahRaEl Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 69.8° at SeaTac tho I don't think it's still going down officially as 70° yet. Quote Eastside Tacoma/Salishan, WA. Elv 263ft Family home in Spanaway, WA. Elv 413ft ☥𓂀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, ChrisAmunRA said: 69.8° at SeaTac tho I don't think it's still going down officially as 70° yet. The high will be over 70. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 People say Idaho and Montana are so sunny in the summer. They might not have marine layer but they frequently have lots of mid level convective clouds... particularly during the afternoons. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobBluth Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Sometimes it seems like the NWS is making forecasting too hard. Like why bother mentioning the possibility of hitting 100? Current NBM deterministic guidance shows around 90 degrees for the interior valley, while the 50th percentile has low to mid 90s for Tuesday. NBM also continues to slightly back away from temperatures above 100 degrees. Currently there is around 10 percent chance of 100F at PDX, and 5 percent at KEUG for example. Temperatures cool slightly to the mid 80s to low 90s for Wednesday. Does not look like record breaking temperatures, though could be if the more extreme forecast comes verifies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Amazing how different 94°F feels when it isn’t humid. Barely broke a sweat outside today. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 "Western troughing literally kills people at this time of year. And in the most gruesome of ways." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Maybe a glimmer of hope on the 18z 1 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2023-24: 39.5" 2023-24: 76.88 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 73.43" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GobBluth said: Sometimes it seems like the NWS is making forecasting too hard. Like why bother mentioning the possibility of hitting 100? Current NBM deterministic guidance shows around 90 degrees for the interior valley, while the 50th percentile has low to mid 90s for Tuesday. NBM also continues to slightly back away from temperatures above 100 degrees. Currently there is around 10 percent chance of 100F at PDX, and 5 percent at KEUG for example. Temperatures cool slightly to the mid 80s to low 90s for Wednesday. Does not look like record breaking temperatures, though could be if the more extreme forecast comes verifies. They seem to have forgotten how that “model” publicly humiliated them in late February. Edited June 2, 2023 by SilverFallsAndrew 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2023-24: 39.5" 2023-24: 76.88 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 73.43" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Snowed at Cape Blanco this year. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2023-24: 39.5" 2023-24: 76.88 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 73.43" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerGarfield Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 hours ago, GHweatherChris said: 4th consecutive morning with a low in the mid 30's, had a touch of frost yesterday, just amazing!! Wow, I assume the plants are doing okay? It is 77F and sunny now. Beautiful weather. 1 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2024-2025 Snowfall totals: HIghest snow total (per event): Most recent accumulation (non trace): Days with trace or more snowfall: First Freeze: TBD Last Sub freezing Day: Coldest low: Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 hours ago, GHweatherChris said: 4th consecutive morning with a low in the mid 30's, had a touch of frost yesterday, just amazing!! Same here. 37, 35.2, 34.5, 38.2 Frost on back to back mornings. Somehow the garden has survived. 2 Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said: Wow, I assume the plants are doing okay? It is 77F and sunny now. Beautiful weather. We aren't growing anything this year, but if we were they would be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: Same here. 37, 35.2, 34.5, 38.2 Frost on back to back mornings. Somehow the garden has survived. A light frost that only lasts a little bit is fine, yesterday was the first time in my life I have seen frost in June though, thought that was cool!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerGarfield Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Amazing how different 94°F feels when it isn’t humid. Barely broke a sweat outside today. Heck yeah. We went to Texas last month and while the temperature was only 5-10 degrees warmer, the humidity made everything feel so different. 1 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2024-2025 Snowfall totals: HIghest snow total (per event): Most recent accumulation (non trace): Days with trace or more snowfall: First Freeze: TBD Last Sub freezing Day: Coldest low: Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Nice day for a beer at Narrows Brewing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YahRaEl Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Highs today Fife/Port of Tacoma 74° Downtown Tacoma-Hilltop 74° EQC/Port of Tacoma 76° Salishan (My Neighborhood)73° Portland Ave/72nd St 72° KTCM(McChord AFB) 73° Lakewood Central(Town Center) 74° Spanaway 75° North South Hill 74° 1 1 Quote Eastside Tacoma/Salishan, WA. Elv 263ft Family home in Spanaway, WA. Elv 413ft ☥𓂀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Good thing we got this out of the way early. 1 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 "Western troughing literally kills people at this time of year. And in the most gruesome of ways." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: They seem to have forgotten how that “model” publicly humiliated them in late February. That was sure a fun storm, though I’m sure many of those caught in it because the NWS failed to issue a warning think otherwise. Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, GHweatherChris said: A light frost that only lasts a little bit is fine, yesterday was the first time in my life I have seen frost in June though, thought that was cool!! It was wild, but I was freaking out about the garden. I woke up at 4 am to go feel the windshields in the dark to see if it was frozen even though it was 34/35. Sure enough solid ice. I thought for sure I’d lose everything. Good to know the tender stuff can take it. Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Good thing we got this out of the way early. Omega block. Omega block. Omega block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Really nice day. 75/44 spread here. Mostly sunny and a little breezy in the afternoon. This weather and these kinds of temps are great for the warm season. I really hope we can manage more rain this month though. The window is closing quickly, since wishing for significant June rainfall after the summer solstice feels a bit like a fool’s errand. 3 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 I grew up growing stuff in Tennessee. I love gardening with a passion, but it has been a difficult transition to learn the process here. Between deer and cold it was a steep learning curve. I put zucchini out in April my first season . Nice to hear/see everyone’s success stories, keeps me motivated. 2 1 Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: I grew up growing stuff in Tennessee. I love gardening with a passion, but it has been a difficult transition to learn the process here. Between deer and cold it was a steep learning curve. I put zucchini out in April my first season . Nice to hear/see everyone’s success stories, keeps me motivated. Your area seems to be significantly cooler than King County. Do any of your neighbors have gardens? 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: I grew up growing stuff in Tennessee. I love gardening with a passion, but it has been a difficult transition to learn the process here. Between deer and cold it was a steep learning curve. I put zucchini out in April my first season . Nice to hear/see everyone’s success stories, keeps me motivated. Cold? It’s been one of the warmest late April through early June periods in recorded history throughout the region. It was cool before that, but in a much more pedestrian way relative to the current warmth. 1 2 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Pretty sure he meant in general it's colder here in April and May than it is in Tennessee and that has been part of the learning curve. Not that it's been that colder than normal. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Your area seems to be significantly cooler than King County. Do any of your neighbors have gardens? Yes. Lady down the road has a prolific dahlia garden. I know it is possible, just tricky 1 Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Cold? It’s been one of the warmest late April through early June periods in recorded history throughout the region. It was cool before that, but in a much more pedestrian way relative to the current warmth. It’s “cold” compared to TN though. An average July in Memphis would obliterate all time records in W-WA. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 "Western troughing literally kills people at this time of year. And in the most gruesome of ways." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: Yes. Lady down the road has a prolific dahlia garden. I know it is possible, just tricky Our dahlias are prolific every summer as well. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Cold? It’s been one of the warmest late April through early June periods in recorded history throughout the region. It was cool before that, but in a much more pedestrian way relative to the current warmth. You really should move down south. Since records began in 1877, Downtown LA had its 20th coldest May and 23rd coldest January to May for high temperatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Another cool morning here. Low of 46 so far. GFS has been pretty consistent with cooler and possibly wetter pattern developing in the mid to long range. Euro sadly had been more stubborn, though. 3 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 49 here. Nice start to the day. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Some pretty chilly temps out there to start the day. Olympia at 39. It’s nice to have nice sunny days without heat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Another cool morning here. Low of 46 so far. GFS has been pretty consistent with cooler and possibly wetter pattern developing in the mid to long range. Euro sadly had been more stubborn, though. The Euro/EPS is king for a reason. Can’t count how many times it has humiliated all other guidance out this way, despite being on its lonesome with whatever solution it projects. It is just on another level entirely. That said, there are rare cases where it slips up. And I’m tempted to say this might be one of those cases. Last nights 00z EPS made a significant move, with a majority of members jumping into a cooler/+NPO pattern, though there is still a warm cluster more similar to the operational/control runs. But it was a notable shift. However, the GFS progression is more -NPO, which is one of its biases associated with GOA cutoffs, and none of the EPS members look like that, either. So I suspect the GFS is wrong on that front. But I’ll also go out on a fragile limb and predict the Euro/EPS will shift substantially cooler by 12z today or 00z tonight. We’ll see. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 "Western troughing literally kills people at this time of year. And in the most gruesome of ways." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 CPC outlook remains bullish on precipitation chances throughout the intermountain west through week-4. What an incredible difference a year makes. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 "Western troughing literally kills people at this time of year. And in the most gruesome of ways." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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