Their defense was an absolute abomination. But they lost 34 guys to the portal, it's a total disgrace the portal window is before the bowl games.

I think the south coast actually did pretty well in late February 2023 and again in early March. My brother was living in Coos County at the time and they had a significant 5-6" event in late February and a couple other 1-3" snowfalls. He lived in the Coos Bay area from the winter of 2017-18 through 2022-23 and he said they had accumulating snow every single winter with the heaviest accumulations in February 2019 and 2023. Honestly they probably had more snow than Salem during that time frame. He also lived in The Dalles during the winter of 2016-17, which was pretty epic.

18z NAM a definite step towards the Euro solution with a lessening of totals here. Shocker. Better for MI peeps though.

In the early 2000s, everyone used to predict cold and snowy conditions, because like 10/12 Weak La Nina were historically cold. I used to preach that it's just a weaker state of the same index, which is usually a warmer pattern. Then we had 5 warm Winters in a row that were Weak Nina's. But this Winter is a Weak Nina and it's cold, so who knows.. maybe there is something in that little layer there. Probably not though. -NAO's do backdoor some cold air for you guys in January, though. I can see some hope for a SSW pattern causing -NAO conditions, your big player is the Pacific though.

Taking a quick look at the east of the Rockies forum it ain't pretty there either. This is not what I expected for this winter. Still time to fix it though.