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December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest


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Definitely cooler for the puget sound Sunday - Monday than more recent runs. Not bad.

January is screwed

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2013/2014 Winter season

Coldest Low: 14 F December 7th

Coldest High: 27.3 F December 7th

Coldest Wind chill: 5 F December 7th

Lowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6th

Days below freezing: 5

Total Snowfall: 11 inches

Most snowfall in a Day: 8 inches

Days With Snow: 3

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This is a cooler than normal over running event. Not like we are going to see huge push of warm air. I don't think hood canal will switch to rain before sat night.

You and places like that should do well.... Everyone else will not... Marginal and wet slop

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I find it so cute how much you hate Gorge driven snow events. :D

 

January 1998 made me hate them forever.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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looks like offshore flow over the cascades on sat. What u think??

 

Maybe... snow fall map does not show anything close to 1,000 ft snow level that day.  

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Every event is different.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KDLS/1996/1/26/DailyHistory.html

 

We had 7" here the day after that, on the basis of our "cold" east winds.

 

I guess I didn't realize that was an overrunning event...It even snowed 3-4" down in Silverton. I thought that was more of a low going south type event like 1/1/04.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Jesse: I love cold onshore flow!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Definitely cooler for the puget sound Sunday - Monday than more recent runs. Not bad.

Possibly we are seeing the shift back after this mornings runs were being too agressive with the southern push? Things are looking up!

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Overall same outcome as other runs. Yes a tiny bit cooler and a few minor improvement but not enough to make a huge difference.

Baby steps! Or drunk uncle stumbles...only time will tell (or the 00z GEM)

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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This area can be amazing for snow with this type of set up. Would not surprise me at all to get a foot.

No January for you.

2013/2014 Winter season

Coldest Low: 14 F December 7th

Coldest High: 27.3 F December 7th

Coldest Wind chill: 5 F December 7th

Lowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6th

Days below freezing: 5

Total Snowfall: 11 inches

Most snowfall in a Day: 8 inches

Days With Snow: 3

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PDX down to 37!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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18z is fantastic for about 60% to 70% of the United States. :unsure:

Who's the other 30-40%? Oh wait lol

2013/2014 Winter season

Coldest Low: 14 F December 7th

Coldest High: 27.3 F December 7th

Coldest Wind chill: 5 F December 7th

Lowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6th

Days below freezing: 5

Total Snowfall: 11 inches

Most snowfall in a Day: 8 inches

Days With Snow: 3

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Snow is like sex, you don't know how deep it will go or how long it will last.  Best to open the presents while you have them. 

It seems to me a lot of people have forgotten that this is only the warning shot. Gotta save the good stuff for later. It's only December 7, can't open all your Christmas presents already.

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For the snow/ice event tomorrow. Don't be surprised if the moisture arrives earlier than scheduled. One of the systems in February 2014 arrived 6 hours early and this past January 3 2016, the moisture got here early by 3-5 hours I think. Just something to watch out for.

I've saying to you for a couple days now, it's overdone.  As much as I want it to happen, I don't think we will see anything near what you're "hoping" for.  I love your enthusiasm but the trend has been moving against the extended cold into Friday for MOST of the area and that's what matters.  Lets see what happens over the next 6-8 hrs.  Hope I'm wrong.  Don't think I am.  Timing is all wrong for one thing.  Don't see any mid level cold air support.  Low has been weakening too much initially. Daytime temps in the Columbia pool not cold enough by the time it gets here during the day.  Sucks!

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This is a cooler than normal over running event. Not like we are going to see huge push of warm air. I don't think hood canal will switch to rain before sat night.How do you think Kitsap will fare on the changeover

 

Should be one of the last places to switch over to rain if we even do.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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There's a lot of precip on radar on the CA/OR border from what I presume to be our low. Was it supposed to be there already?

Nope. System is moving in faster than modeled so far.

Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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