Anti Marine Layer Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Crescent City typically gets a lot of rain in the winter and a lot of fog in the summer. Many days in July and August they will not reach 60 F due to the fog and cold sea breeze. Sometimes a summer storm will come and cut off the inland heat and wipe out the marine layer. Those days can be warmer than most summer days on the Northern California coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Mr Marine Layer, on 07 Mar 2017 - 5:14 PM, said:Mr Marine Layer, on 07 Mar 2017 - 5:14 PM, said:Crescent City typically gets a lot of rain in the winter and a lot of fog in the summer. Many days in July and August they will not reach 60 F due to the fog and cold sea breeze. Sometimes a summer storm will come and cut off the inland heat and wipe out the marine layer. Those days can be warmer than most summer days on the Northern California coast. There's a world of difference between the extreme northwest [Del Norte county] corner of California compared to the southeast [imperial county] corner; this becomes ever more evident during spring/ summer. Several posters have identified the temperature anomaly over the Western U.S. this winter w/ the PacificNW averaging well below normal and snowy versus warmer than normal/ rainy over parts of the Southwest. California has fallen in between; stations in northern California, like Crescent City/ Eureka/ Redding are examples of negative departures. ECMWF now is a little more encouraging for rainfall next week in NorCal. Tuesday: 78/ 48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Betting on rain, even in NorCal, seems to be less likely per European. But the rain year is superb nonetheless 85/ 58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonk Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 California storms: Wettest water year, so far, in 122 years of records The statewide precipitation values given by NCEI “represent area weighted average of values observed at weather stations across the state,” according to Nina Oakley, a California Climate Specialist with the Western Regional Climate Center, part of NOAA. Full story here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareDuck Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Crazy to think that when we talk big California winters it won't be '69, '83, and '98 now as the 3 we compare to. 16-17 will be the tops. Well at least for those north of Santa Barbara. Quote Bend, ORElevation: 3550' Snow History:Nov: 1"Dec: .5"Jan: 1.9"Feb: 12.7"Mar: 1.0"Total: 17.1" 2016/2017: 70"2015/2016: 34"Average: ~25" 2017/2018 Winter TempsLowest Min: 1F on 2/23Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22Lows <32: 87Highs <32: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Mild overnight temp as high pressure builds; could break 90° sometime over the next several days. L: 62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I suppose today would qualify as an early spring heatwave though max was below 90° here. Wonder when it will rain again? 88/ 62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Drought conditions have improved in Santa Barbara area as of March 7, despite getting little rain. Nice to finally have a warm weekend coming up, though more rain would be beneficial for the second half of March. I know many people would not mind if it rained every day from the beginning of November to the end of April, but those are people who don't enjoy walking in warm and sunny weather, at which the green hills look the prettiest. Nice place to go for a walk is Laguna Niguel Regional Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Mr Marine Layer, on 09 Mar 2017 - 9:46 PM, said:Drought conditions have improved in Santa Barbara area as of March 7, despite getting little rain. Nice to finally have a warm weekend coming up, though more rain would be beneficial for the second half of March. I know many people would not mind if it rained every day from the beginning of November to the end of April, but those are people who don't enjoy walking in warm and sunny weather, at which the green hills look the prettiest. Nice place to go for a walk is Laguna Niguel Regional Park. Take some photos of the park. I'm heading out to Anza-Borrego next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Drought conditions have improved in Santa Barbara area as of March 7, despite getting little rain. Nice to finally have a warm weekend coming up, though more rain would be beneficial for the second half of March. I know many people would not mind if it rained every day from the beginning of November to the end of April, but those are people who don't enjoy walking in warm and sunny weather, at which the green hills look the prettiest. Nice place to go for a walk is Laguna Niguel Regional Park. Doesn't have to be one or the other. There can be people who like both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Doesn't have to be one or the other. There can be people who like both.That's why it is nice to alternate between cool and rainy weather and warm and sunny weather, but recently we've had all our sunny weather on weekdays and all the cold and cloudy or rainy weather on weekends. Rain is fun to watch, but not great for walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 That's why it is nice to alternate between cool and rainy weather and warm and sunny weather, but recently we've had all our sunny weather on weekdays and all the cold and cloudy or rainy weather on weekends. Rain is fun to watch, but not great for walking. This weekend is going to be sunny and warm, and possibly even hot in some areas on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I suppose today would qualify as an early spring heatwave though max was below 90° here. Wonder when it will rain again? 88/ 62 I hope we get rain again sometime later this month into April. If we don't get any more rain from this point onward, we are going to likely have even hotter spells of weather than we are currently having later on in April and May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 03:07 AM, said:Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 03:07 AM, said:I hope we get rain again sometime later this month into April. If we don't get any more rain from this point onward, we are going to likely have even hotter spells of weather than we are currently having later on in April and May. Troughs/ rain obviously lower max temps but long periods of sunny/ dry weather don't always translate into bad or more frequent heat waves. Thankfully, early season ridging/ heat doesn't mean more heatwaves even if it remains quite dry. March 2015 had 13 days 85° or above but April & May only had 4 days each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 It was a dirty ridge today. Back in 2015, May was the coldest month of the first 5 for the coastal areas and we got a few very late season storms in the middle of May. It was a reverse spring. So a warm and dry March does not necessarily mean lots of heat in April and May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Troughs/ rain obviously lowers max temps but long periods of sunny/ dry weather don't always translate into bad or more frequent heat waves. Thankfully, early season ridging/ heat doesn't mean more heatwaves even if it remains quite dry. March 2015 had 13 days 85° or above but April & May only had 4 days each. It is when the rainy season ends very early such as the end of February or the beginning of March and very little to no rain falls for the remainder of the winter and early to mid spring is when we have increased risks of more spring heatwaves from what I have noticed during past years. March 2015 was a very warm and very dry month after a storm dropped some rain during the first week of the month, while April was rather dry but cooler with a minor rain event at some point. May turned much cooler and was much wetter. I recorded nearly 1.5" of rain here in Orange with the mid-month storm. Even though the winter of 2015 was much drier than average, and most of March was warm, at least the rains returned during the spring, helping to stave off further bouts of heat later into the spring. I am hoping that at least some storms return to Socal sometime during the spring as they did back in May 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 11:13 PM, said:Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 11:13 PM, said:Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 11:13 PM, said:Dan the Weatherman, on 10 Mar 2017 - 11:13 PM, said:It is when the rainy season ends very early such as the end of February or the beginning of March and very little to no rain falls for the remainder of the winter and early to mid spring is when we have increased risks of more spring heatwaves from what I have noticed during past years. March 2015 was a very warm and very dry month after a storm dropped some rain during the first week of the month, while April was rather dry but cooler with a minor rain event at some point. May turned much cooler and was much wetter. I recorded nearly 1.5" of rain here in Orange with the mid-month storm. Even though the winter of 2015 was much drier than average, and most of March was warm, at least the rains returned during the spring, helping to stave off further bouts of heat later into the spring. I am hoping that at least some storms return to Socal sometime during the spring as they did back in May 2015. The transition from wet to dry season can be delayed by an active Pacific pattern. I think it is a knee-jerk reaction to get panicky but understandable after years of drought. April and even May can produce some decent monthly totals. 1995 was a great year w/ over 8 inches in March followed by several smaller storms into May. As you point out, 1997 was, on the other hand the opposite w/out any rain after Feb 17 and hot only to be followed by record breaking rainfall [4.58] in May 1998. Anything is possible after a wonderful winter Friday: 83/ 60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Fog has covered much of the coastline if you wish to escape the hot weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 PIctures from Laguna Niguel Regional Park. Sun was quite hot today even though this is about 3 miles from the coast, which was foggy. Gotta love those microclimates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Laguna Niguel looks like hay fever central. Nice photos MrMarineLayer Saturday: 85/ 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Quite a temperature inversion this morning. Great visibility here including view of Santa Ana mts above sea of stratus LA AND ORANGE COUNTY COASTAL AREAS CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSL.A. DOWNTOWN SUNNY 67 54 63 CALM 30.02F HAZE L.A. AIRPORT SUNNY 63 56 78 CALM 30.04S HAZE LONG BEACH SUNNY 61 54 77 CALM 30.03F HAZE CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSFULLERTON SUNNY 65 55 70 CALM 30.02F HAZE *GETTY CENTER N/A 72 54 53 S3 N/A HAWTHORNE SUNNY 62 54 74 CALM 30.04S *LEO CARRILLO N/A 56 56 100 CALM N/A *LOS ALAMITOS MOSUNNY 61 55 83 CALM 30.03F HAZE *REDONDO BEACH N/A 63 57 82 CALM 30.03S SANTA ANA SUNNY 60 55 83 CALM 30.03F FOG STA MONICA APT MOSUNNY 60 56 86 S5 30.04S FOG TORRANCE MOSUNNY 61 55 82 VRB5 30.04S FOG *UCLA N/A 70 52 52 SE2 30.01S $$CAZ547-548-048-121900-LA COUNTY VALLEYS AND INLAND EMPIRE CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSBURBANK SUNNY 75 44 33 VRB3 30.03S VAN NUYS SUNNY 78 42 27 E3 30.03R CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKSCORONA AIRPORT CLEAR 70 53 54 CALM 30.03F *CHATSWORTH N/A 79 45 29 CALM 30.02S CHINO SUNNY 73 51 46 CALM 30.04S *CLAREMONT N/A 80 40 23 CALM N/A MARCH AFB SUNNY 72 52 50 S5 30.06S *NORTHRIDGE N/A 79 32 18 NE5G13 N/A ONTARIO SUNNY 76 45 33 CALM 30.03F *PASADENA N/A 79 48 34 CALM N/A POMONA SUNNY 75 43 31 VRB3 30.06S RIVERSIDE SUNNY 76 53 44 CALM 30.03F SAN BERNARDINO NOT AVBL *SAN RAFAEL HI N/A 83 42 23 CALM N/A *SAUGUS N/A 77 43 29 N2 N/A *WHITEMAN AP SUNNY 75 37 25 CALM 30.07S *WHITTIER HILL N/A 70 60 71 CALM N/A *WOODLAND HILL N/A 79 41 25 NE3 N/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Plenty of dense fog here this morning. Looks like a cooler day for coastal areas and a hotter day for inland areas. The 80s at the beaches forecast a few days ago will not be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The dew point is now 57F, approaching 60 F! Its feels like summer mild monsoonal moisture intrusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The high temperature today is 82F, it is the 1st 80F+ day of the year and the last time it went at least 80F was back on a November 13th, 2016! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 At UCI, the shade is quite cool, like low 70s, but the sun's heat is very strong and summer-like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 (.. cross-reference.) http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1525-late-winter-2017-colder-air-mass-movement-and-distribution-projections/?p=229247 Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Another lost week for precipitation as the rain year enters mid-March. Sunday: 89/ 58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Colder air mass movement must be taking place, as Richard Mann has posted. Mornings take a long time to warm up, but eventually the inversion gets mixed out by late morning and it gets hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Whatever it is worth, this is the second day CPC is forecasting rain later next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Unlike almost every other major city, I think LA has some of the most dramatic temperature differences within relatively short distances. Fog didn't clear at LAX w/ max only 67°. Just 8 miles inland it was 88° at USC and in the 90's elsewhere within the city limits today. There can be appreciable temp differences in San Francisco between Pacifica and SFO and in San Diego between Lindbergh Field and Rancho San Diego. But Los Angeles must have the record for such wide temperature spreads. 91/ 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Unlike almost every other major city, I think LA has some of the most dramatic temperature differences within relatively short distances. Fog didn't clear at LAX w/ max only 67°. Just 8 miles inland it was 88° at USC and in the 90's elsewhere within the city limits today. There can be appreciable temp differences in San Francisco between Pacifica and SFO and in San Diego between Lindbergh Field and Rancho San Diego. But Los Angeles must have the record for such wide temperature spreads. 91/ 60Add in the fact that the highest point within the city limits is over 5,000 feet and you have a pretty remarkably geographically and climatically diverse city. 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Temperatures have been plummeting here within the last hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Must have a coastal eddy. They say that can change the distance of the sea breeze influence at Fullerton Airport. It was in the upper 70s to low 80s there most of the day. Lake Forest was probably upper 80s, but it's down to 70 or below now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Planning an early morning drive down to the Anza-Borrego tomorrow before this extended heat burns up the wild flowers. It was 96° there yesterday [100° in Thermal]. The park website warns of heavy congestion/ large # of visitors. I plan to take highway 79 out of Temecula and Route 22 into the park; hope to avoid traffic. Has anyone hiked into Hellhole Canyon/ Borrego Palm Canyon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm getting tired of persistent ridging even if the heat is not that hot. 88/ 62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm getting tired of persistent ridging even if the heat is not that hot. 88/ 62 I am ready for some more rain soon and that looks like a possibility next week. I would be really tired of this dry pattern if I didn't see storms in the long range. It was a bit too warm for my liking today and reminds me a bit of March 2015, which was a relentlessly warm and dry March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Dan the Weatherman, on 14 Mar 2017 - 7:13 PM, said:Dan the Weatherman, on 14 Mar 2017 - 7:13 PM, said:I am ready for some more rain soon and that looks like a possibility next week. I would be really tired of this dry pattern if I didn't see storms in the long range. It was a bit too warm for my liking today and reminds me a bit of March 2015, which was a relentlessly warm and dry March. 7 consecutive days of 80's/ low 90's is enough. Next week is looking better with each model run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 This is beautiful weather. No one here enjoys warm weather. I remember one of our rainiest years ever, probably El Nino, we had a very wet January (insanely wet), a very wet March, and some mid February heat waves. I think Downtown L.A. got about 30 inches that winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Mr Marine Layer, on 14 Mar 2017 - 8:52 PM, said:This is beautiful weather. No one here enjoys warm weather. I remember one of our rainiest years ever, probably El Nino, we had a very wet January (insanely wet), a very wet March, and some mid February heat waves. I think Downtown L.A. got about 30 inches that winter. Yes it isn't bad especially w/ low dew points away from the coastline. But I don't want to start relying on air conditioning so early in Spring. Check out the San Joaquin river in the delta: https://twitter.com/NWSSacramento Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 This is beautiful weather. No one here enjoys warm weather. I remember one of our rainiest years ever, probably El Nino, we had a very wet January (insanely wet), a very wet March, and some mid February heat waves. I think Downtown L.A. got about 30 inches that winter. You are thinking of 1994-95, and I remember that February heat well. It approached 90 degrees at least on a couple of occasions during that period with some weak to moderate Santa Ana winds. I remember getting together with my relatives to celebrate my uncle's birthday that February in Irvine and it was very warm for the time of year, even late into the afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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