March in the Pacific Northwest

[SilverFallsAndrew]

My brother texted me this evening saying that it was snowing in Klamath Falls. Said there was no accumulation however. I may be going down there the weekend of the 12-13th. GFS progs a pretty cold trough that weekend.

[Timmy Supercell]

My brother texted me this evening saying that it was snowing in Klamath Falls. Said there was no accumulation however. I may be going down there the weekend of the 12-13th. GFS progs a pretty cold trough that weekend.

 

By the time its cold enough for it to stick there won't be moisture for it. Skies are clearing as I type

 

Winter is over! lol

[richard mann]

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Looks pretty interesting leastwise, "Timmy". 
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/weather/sat.shtml
 
— Plenty of general instability there, mixed in and along with that cold and clearing.

[TT-SEA]

ECMWF has been teasing us with the first genuine warm spell of the year beginning in about a week for the last couple runs including the new 00Z run.

 

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Geopotential%20500%20hPa%20and%20Temperature%20at%20850%20hPa!240!North%20America!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2014033000!!chart.gif

[richard mann]

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.. "teasing", as in relative to something other that you've seen projected perhaps. ?

[Guest Monty67]

ECMWF has been teasing us with the first genuine warm spell of the year beginning in about a week for the last couple runs including the new 00Z run.

 

Yes please...... My desire for cold and/or an active storm track is over until sometime late next fall. Lawn maintenance contracts are not enjoyable in the rain.

[TT-SEA]

Yes please...... My desire for cold and/or an active storm track is over until sometime late next fall. Lawn maintenance contracts are not enjoyable in the rain.

 

 

Yeah... and the 06Z GFS is the perfect opposite of that at the same time.    Very wet and very cold for a long time on that run.

[MossMan]

Yeah... and the 06Z GFS is the perfect opposite of that at the same time.    Very wet and very cold for a long time on that run.

Thankfully its the GFS. Go Euro!! I am done with this gunky, wet, dark crap, Im sure everyone effected by the slide would agree as well.

[Guest Monty67]

Yeah... and the 06Z GFS is the perfect opposite of that at the same time.    Very wet and very cold for a long time on that run.

The Canadian looks closer to the Euro out around that time. Maybe not quite as strong with the ridging though.

[Jesse]

Yes please...... My desire for cold and/or an active storm track is over until sometime late next fall. Lawn maintenance contracts are not enjoyable in the rain.

I don't understand how someone who would be ok with ridging for the next 8 months can even call themselves a weather enthusiast.

[TT-SEA]

The Canadian looks closer to the Euro out around that time. Maybe not quite as strong with the ridging though.

 

 

12Z GFS says cold rain commences after a short break and will go forever... no sign of a ridge at all.   

 

Thank God.

 

We really, really need more rain.   Lots and lots of rain.    

[Guest Monty67]

I don't understand how someone who would be ok with ridging for the next 8 months can even call themselves a weather enthusiast.

Yep, sunny, hot dry weather with the occasional thunderstorm chance is weather too you know. When I get home from work I check my weather station to see what the high was for the day, wind gusts, that sort of thing. Same as I do during the winter. Did you read my post that you responded to. I am a self employed landscaper. I work outside, I am not sure if you have ever tried to mow 8 or 10 lawns in a day when it is raining. It is a slow process and really not all that enjoyable. A very wet week during my maintenance season could easily cost me up to $500+ in lost income that cant always be made up. So yeah its easy to be a weather enthusiast and be more than OK with general ridging for the next 8 months.

[TT-SEA]

I don't understand how someone who would be ok with ridging for the next 8 months can even call themselves a weather enthusiast.

 

 

Some of us have lives as well.    The entire world does not revolve around endless crappy weather that you call 'active'.

 

As Jim said... there is no way to defend this.      The best word he came up with to describe it is 'ghastly'.

[Jesse]

Some of us have lives as well. The entire world does not revolve around endless crappy weather that you call 'active'.

 

As Jim said... there is no way to defend this. The best word he came up with to describe it is 'ghastly'.

I don't want this to turn into a big thing. The weather this month has been pretty wet. Too wet for my liking. I usually do a couple hikes a week (hiking is an activity that is generally done outside) so I love breaks in the weather.

 

The flip side would be annoying too, though. Ridging between now and late Autumn would not only be a climatological impossibility, any true weather enthusiast (people who see the bigger picture and realize the world climate doesn't revolve around their job) would agree that would be quite boring as well.

 

How about a mixed bag for the next several months? Sounds like a nice compromise.

[TT-SEA]

I don't want this to turn into a big thing. The weather this month has been pretty wet. Too wet for my liking. I usually do a couple hikes a week (hiking is an activity that is generally done outside) so I love breaks in the weather.

 

The flip side would be annoying too, though. Ridging between now and late Autumn would not only be a climatological impossibility, any true weather enthusiast (people who see the bigger picture and realize the world climate doesn't revolve around their job) would agree that would be quite boring as well.

 

How about a mixed bag for the next several months? Sounds like a nice compromise.

 

 

Who gives a crap what we agree on??   Nature will likely continue to deliver cold, crappy weather through June.    Which is just ridiculous but perfectly normal.

[TT-SEA]

12Z Canadian set us up next weekend with a nice long fetch of moisture becoming established... perfect.     Can't get deep into a trough... can't get into a ridge.   We just live endlessly this time of year in between with rain and then more rain.

 

http://weather.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/colour_images/12_054_G1_north@america@zoomout_I_4PAN_CLASSIC@012_144.jpg

[Jesse]

Planning a road trip to SE Oregon for spring break. The "Oregon Outback" area. Looking cool and dry down that way!

[BLI snowman]

I hope it weathers a lot the next 8 months! I like weather! I'll take weather any day of the week.

[Timmy Supercell]

I prefer barrages of Upper Lows with some 1-2 week long highs in between the t'stormy ULL stuff. That's my kind of weather. Persistent ridging... can get old?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Not a bad day today. Mostly cloudy and fairly cool. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

So did we lose all our old threads when we moved over here? If not could someone provide me the link?

[Jesse]

12z Euro sticking to its guns with ridging days 8-10, but I can see how a slight shift in the pattern could lead to a more GFS-like solution.

 

Classic battle of the models coming up! Euro would easily be 70's at face value. GFS upper 40s to low 50s in the same time frame.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

 A lot of GFS ensembles show a big ridge in that timeframe as well.

[TT-SEA]

12z Euro sticking to its guns with ridging days 8-10, but I can see how a slight shift in the pattern could lead to a more GFS-like solution.

 

Classic battle of the models coming up! Euro would easily be 70's at face value. GFS upper 40s to low 50s in the same time frame.

 

 

I hope the GFS is right!   Winter-like weather is awesome in spring.   

[richard mann]

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http://theweatherforums.com/index.php?/topic/163-march-in-the-pacific-northwest/?p=23658

 

.. no, then.  

 

I see. .. So "teasing", not so much more where compared with anything else more substantive, but instead something more like what a gambling addict / enthusiast, might consider and appreciate as being the case, where having noted a possible, tendency, where and with having evaluated one of several lines of slot-machines then. Apparently. Correct. ?

 

Noteworthy certainly, as it's (or they are.) running the "hottest".

 

Put me down for 2 bucks. I like nice weather too.

 

I'll be watching for your complaint, if the projection fails to verify. 

[richard mann]

 A lot of GFS ensembles show a big ridge in that timeframe as well.

 

.. Certainly a distinct possibility, as I see the potential at the time.

 

— I don't check the models regularly as many people here do. But per my own look at the potential for any more amplified ridging at that point, and if looking more at main colder air mass both movement and distribution with time, .. with colder air looked at more broadly, set as I see things, to slow steadily and progressively more daily through until then, and even further where considering its main pace and progress east, looked at together with its otherwise being set to retract daily more northward through the first 3 or 4 days of April, before beginning to spread more southward again, …

 

.. Both, the general void left with cold's slower movement east, looked at together with the potential for pressure to build within and where looking at that void with colder air's starting south again, certainly fit with the potential for some amount of significant ridging. Even the prospect of a general warming tend for the West looked at more generally. Just how amplified, of course being the main question where considering the more specific context suggested (even hopes, expressed.) above.

[richard mann]

So did we lose all our old threads when we moved over here? If not could someone provide me the link?

 

Fairly sure we did. ... Ask "iFred" via PM is what I'd suggest.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like a fairly stationary, moderate to heavy band of rain between Salem and Silverton, wonder if that builds up here into the foothills as the afternoon progresses.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Fairly sure we did. ... Ask "iFred" via PM is what I'd suggest.

 

That is too bad. I was looking for some March 2012 material for my requiem for March 2012 post.

[richard mann]

Yep, sunny, hot dry weather with the occasional thunderstorm chance is weather too you know. When I get home from work I check my weather station to see what the high was for the day, wind gusts, that sort of thing. Same as I do during the winter. Did you read my post that you responded to. I am a self employed landscaper. I work outside, I am not sure if you have ever tried to mow 8 or 10 lawns in a day when it is raining. It is a slow process and really not all that enjoyable. A very wet week during my maintenance season could easily cost me up to $500+ in lost income that cant always be made up. So yeah its easy to be a weather enthusiast and be more than OK with general ridging for the next 8 months.

 

Granted, certainly.

 

But how much, more. ? 

[Weather101]

I'm sick of rain. People work outside and I can tell you it's not enjoyable coming home soaking wet at night. The past month the rain has been heavy not even light or moderate. I just want some sun. I don't care for the temps just some dry weather would be nice.

[Phil]

Hope it's ok if I post these..

 

Winter just refuses to give up...snow and 50mph winds today

 

http://catchmypicture.com/f/u2ghhV/640.jpg

 

http://catchmypicture.com/f/XF0Zcw/800.jpg

 

http://catchmypicture.com/f/U5zKV0/800.jpg

[ningit]

Today was pretty nice, I'll definitely take 50's and partly sunny over heavy wet snow at the end of March.

[BLI snowman]

Today was pretty nice, I'll definitely take 50's and partly sunny over heavy wet snow at the end of March.

 

I think it'd have to be 70+ for me to prefer it to a snowstorm, even at this point of the season. Cool shower/sunbreak days like today are a dime a dozen in the spring.

[Timmy Supercell]

Back to snowing in Klamath Falls. This time it's sticking on things especially grass and on roofs. Looking at radar though, there should not be much snow at all, moisture coverage is sparse at best. I'm guessing between 1/4" to 1/2" total until morning. Drought continues

 

http://i57.tinypic.com/25oug6g.jpg

[GHweatherChris]

I think it'd have to be 70+ for me to prefer it to a snowstorm, even at this point of the season. Cool shower/sunbreak days like today are a dime a dozen in the spring.

Agreed.

[GHweatherChris]

Back to snowing in Klamath Falls. This time it's sticking on things especially grass and on roofs. Looking at radar though, there should not be much snow at all, moisture coverage is sparse at best. I'm guessing between 1/4" to 1/2" total until morning. Drought continues

 

http://i57.tinypic.com/25oug6g.jpg

Still cool to see!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Back to snowing in Klamath Falls. This time it's sticking on things especially grass and on roofs. Looking at radar though, there should not be much snow at all, moisture coverage is sparse at best. I'm guessing between 1/4" to 1/2" total until morning. Drought continues

 

http://i57.tinypic.com/25oug6g.jpg

 

You guys are above average for March though!

[Timmy Supercell]

You guys are above average for March though!

 

I had no accumulation in March. My last melting was in middle of February. Zero pretty much.

 

I had rain most of the time this winter.

[richard mann]

You're full of ..... Where did you get that ridiculous vibe from?  Nobody ever posts to it, so I'd be the only one there (paraphrased.), ... ect., etc.. 

 

$ .. Perhaps just post whatever, to the main "Eastern" sub-forum, and then drop in a link to it here, if you feel that it might be of interest to anyone here more, is what I'd suggest where considering what you've focused on.