Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Some impressive warmth today considering heights aren’t even above 582dm yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Is that why 2010 and 2011 were such awful fire seasons? Not to mention the horrific fires during the cool summers of the 1950s and 60s. What he’s saying might be true for current years when we are generally bone dry and warmer than average in the months leading up to summer. Then when you finally get a small cool down things blow up. But looking historically there is a clear correlation with cooler, wetter summers/calmer fire seasons and hotter, drier summers/more severe fire seasons. That should be sort of a no brainer.Yeah, in general hotter and drier summers have worst fire seasons, especially if you combine that with a dry spring. Thunderstorms are almost always a given east of the Cascades sometime during the summer, so that's one trigger for the fires. I think what he's trying to get at is we want cooler weather as a way to combat the wildfires but in turn it could create new wildfires because of the lightning and also spread it with more wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 We have seen this movie before. It's called "Slides East"Ummmmm why are we talking about December? Isn't this still August? Hold your horses! We still have fall to enjoy before we play the sliding east with Artic Air game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Euro is back to showing a crash Friday. But the more progressive ULL ultimately means a warmer pattern in the long range. #livebythesworddiebytheswordThen it will show some warmth in the short range with only a few days cool down which even those will overachieve. In other words it's all going to magically wash away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 PDX made it up to 92 today. The next 4 days should easily get into the 90s. Maybe even triple digits depending on how thick the smoke is on Wed/Thu. Friday will be close to the 90s again depending on if/when a crash comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Slides East is the sequel. First comes Trending East.Both movies are B rated. Anyone want my tickets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Yeah, in general hotter and drier summers have worst fire seasons, especially if you combine that with a dry spring. Thunderstorms are almost always a given east of the Cascades sometime during the summer, so that's one trigger for the fires. I think what he's trying to get at is we want cooler weather as a way to combat the wildfires but in turn it could create new wildfires because of the lightning and also spread it with more wind.A week of cool and wet weather regionally would significantly slow down the fire season. It’s dry marine pushes and thunderstorm patterns within long term warm and dry conditions that are troublesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Isn't Sleepless in Seattle about model riding?Isn't Model Riding the new 4D trackless ride that's out in Shanghai Disney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Smoke intensifying moving south through the valley. Was beautiful at OHSU this morning. Central Valley was getting smoky by 2-3 and the south valley looks like Mordor. Making for a pretty sunset though. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Haha, we’re in a severe drought.Haha! Dewey haha posts by other people. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Sad to see that ULL just spinning away a couple hundred miles offshore. We have actually been getting some of its outer cloud bands at times today. So close but so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Bozeman for breakfast... home for dinner.Always amazed at how beautiful it is when coming over Snoqualmie Pass and down into North Bend. Its the most beautiful place in the entire drive across the country. So instantly lush with dramatic mountain peaks. Looks so incredibly lush even during our annual 8-week dry spell. Everything else looks drab in comparison. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Some impressive warmth today considering heights aren’t even above 582dm yet. That ULL is disrupting our normal pseudo-sea breeze situation that would develop in NW'erly flow. We're getting more bang for our buck from the available solar energy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 We had a little downslope help today thanks to the departing wave. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 That ULL is disrupting our normal pseudo-sea breeze situation that would develop in NW'erly flow. We're getting more bang for our buck from the available solar energy...Makes sense. Nice to see you posting again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 A week of cool and wet weather regionally would significantly slow down the fire season. It’s dry marine pushes and thunderstorm patterns within long term warm and dry conditions that are troublesome.Unfortunately that's not going to happen anytime soon. Maybe a month from now that could become a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 We had a little downslope help today thanks to the departing wave. We did have a thermal trough develop overhead/just to the east, but the whole setup is driven by that ULL. It was also responsible for yesterday's flat gradients & overachieving warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 We did have a thermal trough develop overhead/just to the east, but the whole setup is driven by that ULL. It was also responsible for yesterday's flat gradients & overachieving warmth.Definitely helps to have lower pressure over the offshore waters. Starting tomorrow we'll see a little more of a diurnal increase in gradients. Should offset things a little. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Makes sense. Nice to see you posting again! Thanks! Too much going on these days to log in here consistently, on my end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 All time August record is basically a lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 There's a decent chance that we will not see another summer as cool as 2015 in our lifetimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 There's a decent chance that we will not see another summer as cool as 2015 in our lifetimes.Must have been a warm 00z run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 There's a decent chance that we will not see another summer as cool as 2015 in our lifetimes.Haha! Apocalyptic PNW summer climate posts! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Must have been a warm 00z run.Looks like maybe 3/16 days under 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Haha! Apocalyptic PNW summer climate posts!7/25/15. Last cool summer day. Never forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Haha! Apocalyptic PNW summer climate posts!The last six summers really don’t even need exaggeration. They sort of exaggerate themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Lovely day! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 So smoky I can't even see the stars. Sad. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Yeah, in general hotter and drier summers have worst fire seasons, especially if you combine that with a dry spring. Thunderstorms are almost always a given east of the Cascades sometime during the summer, so that's one trigger for the fires. I think what he's trying to get at is we want cooler weather as a way to combat the wildfires but in turn it could create new wildfires because of the lightning and also spread it with more wind.It's not so much that cool downs in Western WA/OR cause thunderstorms, but that they also really kick up the winds. Often we get no lightning from this pattern, but lots of wind. The mega fires of a few years ago exploded because of really strong winds. Also, an awful lot of our lightning storms come not from that pattern, but from storms that move up from California and move North through Eastern Oregon into Eastern Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Friday crashes bring May flowers. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Friday crashes bring May flowers.And apparently Monday crashes too. #believeitwheniseeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 All models shifted towards more troughing over the weekend. Do not doubt my power. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 degrees cooler on Fri than Thu. Hope it holds. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Big time +Jesse index on the week 2 00z EPS. Would be pretty early in the season for a longwave western trough like this. Vortex completely evacuates Greenland. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Remember... EPS showed a massive trough for right now one week ago. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Cool, dry, and beautiful on my last morning here. Heading to SeaTac airport in 45mins to catch my return flight to the swamp, but should have just enough time to enjoy one last smoke and a stroll under the evergreens. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 ICON is onboard for Monday crash as well. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Remember... EPS showed a massive trough for right now one week ago.Nothing even remotely similar to this, though. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Big time +Jesse index on the week 2 00z EPS. Would be pretty early in the season for a longwave western trough like this. Vortex completely evacuates Greenland. Don't we want to keep that thing around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Oops. Major bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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