Andie Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Iceresistance said: Also factor the BLM is run by Elites who lavish themselves. I look back to the 60’s when the Left were out on the street protesting the current war or the Administration and now it at least appears switched or the lines are blurred. One things hasn’t changed. Both sides manipulate people for votes and advantage. There isn’t a clear line of delineation. Even if you ignore the names and faces they are quite similar. And anyone entering the House or Senate leaves wealthier than they began. Can we say that? Probably not. My taxes are higher and cost of living is shameful. Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted April 21 Author Report Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Disappointing to see Ukrainian aid pass. The AMERICAN people lose again. Go give your Putin doll another hug and have a nice cry about it. 2 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 I am a bit surprised that the New York Post actually hates MTG, and views her as "Pro-Russian" Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Gotta give Speaker Johnson props. He went against the MAGA inbred and voted for what was right regarding Ukraine. Shame Israel got more money to kill Palestinians, but that was going to happen no matter what. Sorry Andrew 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Iceresistance said: I am a bit surprised that the New York Post actually hates MTG, and views her as "Pro-Russian" Probably because she is stupid, even by politician standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said: Probably because she is stupid, even by politician standards. When a Moderate challenges her, she is done for 1 Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Billions scammed in Covid 19 funds. Oh, you knew this was coming, surely. A panic as big as Covid was ripe for fraud. https://www.judicialwatch.org/felons-scam-covid-relief/ Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 17 hours ago, roadtonowhere08 said: Gotta give Speaker Johnson props. He went against the MAGA inbred and voted for what was right regarding Ukraine. Shame Israel got more money to kill Palestinians, but that was going to happen no matter what. Sorry Andrew F*ck Ukraine they are getting smashed anyways. Just a waste of money. At least the money going to Israel is for a good cause! 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 17 hours ago, Iceresistance said: When a Moderate challenges her, she is done for You don’t know much about her district do you? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 19 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Go give your Putin doll another hug and have a nice cry about it. Doesn’t matter it’s the American taxpayers who lose. Ukraine is losing anyways. President undershirt just has more money to steal during his war grift. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 The crucifixion or Donald J Trump continues this week. Here is a Seattle representative being inane. Trump is showing up Biden on the campaign trail even being on trial. Biden tried to campaign this week and it did not go well. https://youtu.be/J1nBCNjgCEg?si=ScdMid4i2hqLApci 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 This trial is likely to galvanize his voters and convert many on the fence especially as the economy stinks and Biden’s administration is underwhelming. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: The crucifixion or Donald J Trump continues this week. Here is a Seattle representative being inane. Trump is showing up Biden on the campaign trail even being on trial. Biden tried to campaign this week and it did not go well. https://youtu.be/J1nBCNjgCEg?si=ScdMid4i2hqLApci Trump is the real Jesus. Pretty sure he is the true son of God. You are using that word to be ultra-dramatic and offensive. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 22 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Trump is the real Jesus. Pretty sure he is the true son of God. You are using that word to be ultra-dramatic and offensive. He likes to tie himself into knots with a lot of his terrible pseudo-arguments. If he was in speech and debate, he would be laughed out of the class. F- for rhetoric A+ for rationalization 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Andie said: This trial is likely to galvanize his voters and convert many on the fence especially as the economy stinks and Biden’s administration is underwhelming. Anyone who's opinion is still subject to change has not been conscious for the last 8 years and should not be eligible to vote. Nothing has changed except for the date and time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Andie said: Billions scammed in Covid 19 funds. Oh, you knew this was coming, surely. A panic as big as Covid was ripe for fraud. https://www.judicialwatch.org/felons-scam-covid-relief/ Some even faked a country! Which is absolutely impressive Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, TT-SEA said: Trump is the real Jesus. Pretty sure he is the true son of God. You are using that word to be ultra-dramatic and offensive. Then how else can you explain this. Watch our country turn to s*it while pumping billions into Ukraine and the demonic defense industry! Enough is enough. If these forces of darkness continue to prevail our country will cease to exist. It may already be gone! 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Then how else can you explain this. Watch our country turn to s*it while pumping billions into Ukraine and the demonic defense industry! Enough is enough. If these forces of darkness continue to prevail our country will cease to exist. It may already be gone! I rather not see Russia overtake Ukraine, they will go after the Baltic states next! Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 Oops! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 10 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: I rather not see Russia overtake Ukraine, they will go after the Baltic states next! America Last? Amirite???? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: America Last? Amirite???? Russia will try to crush NATO by neutralizing all of Europe under his control Quote Never say Never with Weather, because anything is possible! All observations are in Tecumseh, OK unless otherwise noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: America Last? Amirite???? Because just sitting around and letting a dictator gobble up various European countries worked just SO well to prevent war in the 1940’s. Let’s try that again! Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Defense Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 23 hours ago, Iceresistance said: When a Moderate challenges her, she is done for Yeah ummmm....no....I grew up in Georgia and am familiar with her district, and I am not at all shocked her district put her in office. You ever seen the movie Deliverance? Happened in a different part of the state, but same caliber of people. I think the only way they would turn on her is if she started pushing moderate Republican talking points. Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 On 4/20/2024 at 9:06 PM, Iceresistance said: When a Moderate challenges her, she is done for I don't mean to pile on, but when a district sends someone like that to represent them, it kind of tells you something about that district 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Oops! You are a walking Breitbart ad based on my 2 mins of.browsing their front page. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 13 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: The crucifixion or Donald J Trump continues this week. Here is a Seattle representative being inane. Trump is showing up Biden on the campaign trail even being on trial. Biden tried to campaign this week and it did not go well. https://youtu.be/J1nBCNjgCEg?si=ScdMid4i2hqLApci Every time they parade Biden out to “whip up the voters” it backfires on some level. The world is so dangerous right now. I honestly don’t know how they’ll sell another win for him. If the US doesn’t project strength the world gets into all kinds of trouble. I’m holding my breath. Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 6 hours ago, Andie said: Every time they parade Biden out to “whip up the voters” it backfires on some level. The world is so dangerous right now. I honestly don’t know how they’ll sell another win for him. If the US doesn’t project strength the world gets into all kinds of trouble. I’m holding my breath. Hard to get more into projecting weakness than to control the House and have your speaker get threatened with removal for standing up to an international bully. 2 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 The equity that @SnarkyGoblin and @Rubus Leucodermis are dreaming of is already taking place University President Sends a Letter Announcing the School's Top Priority: Racial Justice and Equity CVS Makes Future Managers Confess Their Privilege, Promises Not to Promote Merely on Merit In Order to Attack 'Systemic Racism,' a School Eliminates Failure and Time Constraints Excellence in Equity: California Eyes Obliterating 'Bias' by Getting Rid of Grades Arizona State University Dean Pens 350+ Page Book on How Grading Writing Is White Supremacy A Medical School Dissects Its Honor Society Because Grades May Be Racist 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 19 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said: The equity that @SnarkyGoblin and @Rubus Leucodermis are dreaming of is already taking place University President Sends a Letter Announcing the School's Top Priority: Racial Justice and Equity CVS Makes Future Managers Confess Their Privilege, Promises Not to Promote Merely on Merit In Order to Attack 'Systemic Racism,' a School Eliminates Failure and Time Constraints Excellence in Equity: California Eyes Obliterating 'Bias' by Getting Rid of Grades Arizona State University Dean Pens 350+ Page Book on How Grading Writing Is White Supremacy A Medical School Dissects Its Honor Society Because Grades May Be Racist Nothing about sending anyone to the guillotine, so no, not what I dream of. Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 6 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Nothing about sending anyone to the guillotine, so no, not what I dream of. Why is it spam to give links to articles of what kinds of policies the Democrats support? It's political after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 33 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said: Why is it spam to give links to articles of what kinds of policies the Democrats support? It's political after all. "here's 10 links of some random people on the internet with an opinion" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 24 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said: "here's 10 links of some random people on the internet with an opinion" They are facts, not opinions. If a school gets rid of grades that's a fact. The opinion is whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. Your opinion would be that it's a good thing because grades are racist since black students don't have the same resources as white students and it is solely white privilege that allows white students to get better grades than black students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 Once again, SnarkyGoblin doesn't know the differences between fact an opinion. It's a FACT that the professor wrote an article expressing his opinions and that this is affecting school policies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 I can't imagine the burden that the jurors on the Trump case will be feeling, if they aren't already. Regardless of outcome, you know you are part of something that is historic for the nation. Ten years ago, I was a juror on a case involving a 16 year old girl and a male teacher. The trial got some attention in the local papers but that's about it. It only lasted a few days, but I found myself having a hard time shutting my brain off at the end of each day. You know you have someone's fate in your hands, and while I did not know it for sure at the time, common sense suggested that a conviction was going to result in prison time for that guy. We ended up acquitting because there just wasn't enough evidence to overcome the reasonable doubt threshold. Our jury had 6 people (plus 1 alternate) and was pretty diverse... 3 men, 3 women, one was black and one was Hispanic. I know the common reaction to jury duty is like "ugh", but I think all of us took the responsibility very seriously. There were some people weeded out in voir dire who clearly didn't want to be there or were answering questions in a way that made them seem biased, and you just hope that that process worked in the Trump trial. Obviously this one is on a whole different scale though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 35 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said: They are facts, not opinions. If a school gets rid of grades that's a fact. The opinion is whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. Your opinion would be that it's a good thing because grades are racist since black students don't have the same resources as white students and it is solely white privilege that allows white students to get better grades than black students. If it's all facts, then why the h*ll does each article have this disclaimer at the beginning? What you linked are small nuggets of truth extrapolated into something insane that you eat up. It is a classic far right media strategy and is the basis of how most conspiracy theories are created. It's no coincidence the people on here don't believe in getting the COVID vaccine are also the ones who spam "news" like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 24 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said: If it's all facts, then why the h*ll does each article have this disclaimer at the beginning? What you linked are small nuggets of truth extrapolated into something insane that you eat up. It is a classic far right media strategy and is the basis of how most conspiracy theories are created. It's no coincidence the people on here don't believe in getting the COVID vaccine are also the ones who spam "news" like that. Truth is truth. One rare instance of a crazy teacher who thinks grading or ranking students is racist is still truth. One rare instance of a school that gets rid of grades because such a stupid teacher is part of their staff is still truth. For you, one rare instance of 4 police officers murdering a Black person in Minneapolis is truth and causes people around the world to lose their minds and burn down cities for months and think that all police officers are racist and they must all be defunded. However these are not just rare instances. They are commonly happening through out many schools and institutions today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said: It's a FACT that the professor wrote an article expressing his opinions and that this is affecting school policies. 1 hour ago, Anti Marine Layer said: However these are not just remote instances. They are commonly happening through out many schools and institutions today. nugget of truth = he wrote a book that you don't agree with conspiracy = The book is affecting school policies everywhere and the libs are therefore bringing down the white folks.....sorry, I mean the "working Folx" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarkyGoblin Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 50 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I can't imagine the burden that the jurors on the Trump case will be feeling, if they aren't already. Regardless of outcome, you know you are part of something that is historic for the nation. Ten years ago, I was a juror on a case involving a 16 year old girl and a male teacher. The trial got some attention in the local papers but that's about it. It only lasted a few days, but I found myself having a hard time shutting my brain off at the end of each day. You know you have someone's fate in your hands, and while I did not know it for sure at the time, common sense suggested that a conviction was going to result in prison time for that guy. We ended up acquitting because there just wasn't enough evidence to overcome the reasonable doubt threshold. Our jury had 6 people (plus 1 alternate) and was pretty diverse... 3 men, 3 women, one was black and one was Hispanic. I know the common reaction to jury duty is like "ugh", but I think all of us took the responsibility very seriously. There were some people weeded out in voir dire who clearly didn't want to be there or were answering questions in a way that made them seem biased, and you just hope that that process worked in the Trump trial. Obviously this one is on a whole different scale though. I've always wanted to be on a jury - have never been summoned and I am 40 years old. sad face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said: I've always wanted to be on a jury - have never been summoned and I am 40 years old. sad face I just went through hoops getting out of duty. My back can’t do it. Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 18 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said: nugget of truth = he wrote a book that you don't agree with So what's your opinion on that book he wrote? Mainly this idea. I agree with the ideas from his book I disagree with the ideas from his book I couldn't care less about what he wrote The book was never written. It's a fake book made up by right-wing conspiracy theorists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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