18z NAM a definite step towards the Euro solution with a lessening of totals here. Shocker. Better for MI peeps though.

In the early 2000s, everyone used to predict cold and snowy conditions, because like 10/12 Weak La Nina were historically cold. I used to preach that it's just a weaker state of the same index, which is usually a warmer pattern. Then we had 5 warm Winters in a row that were Weak Nina's. But this Winter is a Weak Nina and it's cold, so who knows.. maybe there is something in that little layer there. Probably not though. -NAO's do backdoor some cold air for you guys in January, though.

Taking a quick look at the east of the Rockies forum it ain't pretty there either. This is not what I expected for this winter. Still time to fix it though.

or down, depending on how you view it

True. It's just hard to ignore what the results have been for us though.