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Down to -5F and feeling alive!  I gotta tell ya, it ain't to bad without the wind.  Love the smell of fire wood in the neighborhood while taking a walk outside and the sound of the crunchy snow on the pavement.  Some minor drift action in the open areas by the park, but other than that, a nice layer of fresh powder and star lit skies.

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http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/archives/long_lead/gifs/2015/201512month.gif

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Really??!! Those were made a whole year ago. Check dates please.

 

LOLz  :lol: (he had me for a moment)

 

SMI had several moist storms and snowfall ranging from 100-150% of normal (115% at mby). I think precip-wise they busted with all that browns over MI. 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Nearly the exact opposite.

 

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/lead01/off01_temp.gif

 

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LOLz  :lol: (he had me for a moment)

 

SMI had several moist storms and snowfall ranging from 100-150% of normal (115% at mby). I think precip-wise they busted with all that browns over MI. 

:lol: :P

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Really??!! Those were made a whole year ago. Check dates please.

hUH.....YEAH REALLY....it was a joke.. Geez!!!!!!!!!!....

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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hUH.....YEAH REALLY....it was a joke.. Geez!!!!!!!!!!....

Lol. I'm sorry. Those were just as much of a joke when they were made a year ago as they are now. Haha. Just like the maps the CPC made on November 22 this year for December. Lol. I wonder how they legitimately score themselves each month and still put that crap out.

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Bah Humbug!  I'm not to thrilled to have another brown Christmas for the 3rd straight year.  Depending on how the impending warm cutter evolves, the snow pack may hold through Christmas day but most likely will take a huge beating.  This high ratio fluff will get nuked by the warm surge.  Over the past few days, I've been trying to enjoy the scenery around here as much as possible before its gone.  The December Thaw is on it's way.... :wacko:

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Bah Humbug!  I'm not to thrilled to have another brown Christmas for the 3rd straight year.  Depending on how the impending warm cutter evolves, the snow pack may hold through Christmas day but most likely will take a huge beating.  This high ratio fluff will get nuked by the warm surge.  Over the past few days, I've been trying to enjoy the scenery around here as much as possible before its gone.  The December Thaw is on it's way.... :wacko:

We might get to experience severe weather this year.....last year we saw this:

 

 ** Christmas 2015 Weather Recap (Christmas Thunderstorms!):  In terms of weather, last Christmas was by far the most "interesting" one in the Grand Island area since the significant blizzard of 2009. Although most of the day was simply cloudy with a seasonably chilly high temperature of 31°, the evening hours featured a winter rarity as a narrow corridor of thunderstorms developed over the area and dropped a mix of snow, graupel (snow pellets), and freezing rain. Officially, the total snowfall for the day was only 0.6", but the overall-precipitation total of 0.17" was good for the 3rd-wettest Christmas on record! ** 

 

Hopefully by late December and into January we can start to experience some share the wealth storms. One this is for sure, if we can get a negative AO with the next go around in the LRC look out for a lot of us!! 

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Bah Humbug!  I'm not to thrilled to have another brown Christmas for the 3rd straight year.  Depending on how the impending warm cutter evolves, the snow pack may hold through Christmas day but most likely will take a huge beating.  This high ratio fluff will get nuked by the warm surge.  Over the past few days, I've been trying to enjoy the scenery around here as much as possible before its gone.  The December Thaw is on it's way.... :wacko:

 

I hear ya.  There are very few things I hate more than a snowpack killer in the middle of winter.  I love when the side streets, back roads, and parking lots have a constant layer of snow on them and snow piles continuously grow.  I get it's going to happen early and late in the season, but it pisses the ever-living $hit out of me when it happens Dec-Feb.   One of the reasons I love having a place in the northern woods - they just keep adding to it all season long.  Eventually, I'm going to pull the trigger and spend an entire winter in Houghton.

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We might get to experience severe weather this year.....last year we saw this:

 

 ** Christmas 2015 Weather Recap (Christmas Thunderstorms!):  In terms of weather, last Christmas was by far the most "interesting" one in the Grand Island area since the significant blizzard of 2009. Although most of the day was simply cloudy with a seasonably chilly high temperature of 31°, the evening hours featured a winter rarity as a narrow corridor of thunderstorms developed over the area and dropped a mix of snow, graupel (snow pellets), and freezing rain. Officially, the total snowfall for the day was only 0.6", but the overall-precipitation total of 0.17" was good for the 3rd-wettest Christmas on record! ** 

 

Hopefully by late December and into January we can start to experience some share the wealth storms. One this is for sure, if we can get a negative AO with the next go around in the LRC look out for a lot of us!! 

Yup, the pattern will be cycling through by the New Year and ridge is supposed to build up near the Pole.  Both GEFS/EPS starting to do it by Day 8-10.

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Jim is sticking to his guns and still not lowering his total of 40" for Omaha this season. He had a new post yesterday I believe talking about the storms possible on Christmas Day and said he's not changing anything yet. Seems a little optimistic to me considering we're at 2.7" this year so far and he said December was going to be a snowy month here and it doesn't look like any more snow the rest of the month.

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Jim is sticking to his guns and still not lowering his total of 40" for Omaha this season. He had a new post yesterday I believe talking about the storms possible on Christmas Day and said he's not changing anything yet. Seems a little optimistic to me considering we're at 2.7" this year so far and he said December was going to be a snowy month here and it doesn't look like any more snow the rest of the month.

Going to take quite a few storms for that to occur. 

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Lol. I'm sorry. Those were just as much of a joke when they were made a year ago as they are now. Haha. Just like the maps the CPC made on November 22 this year for December. Lol. I wonder how they legitimately score themselves each month and still put that crap out.

The part that is not a joke is that a lot of my snowpack might take a huge beating in the coming days. Warmer temps are coming and rain in my forecast for Christmas Day, out of all days, it chose that day. Hopefully, my snowpack can hold through the weekend. :unsure:

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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The part that is not a joke is that a lot of my snowpack might take a huge beating in the coming days. Warmer temps are coming and rain in my forecast for Christmas Day, out of all days, it chose that day. Hopefully, my snowpack can hold through the weekend. :unsure:

Yup. Gonna be a rough 10 days or so.

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Anyone getting flakes from this? Appears a bit south of progs??

 

 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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It's been on most models for sometime-- just lost it -- now picking it back up. Most people unaware.

Ya its been there.  Been trending slightly wetter and north.   Also looks as the precip type issues will occur.

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam/2016122112/060/snku_acc.us_mw.png

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:D :D

 

So, we push the "snow cover reset button" right after logging our 1st White Christmas in 3 yrs, it's the WX what can you do??

 

 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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